Is there a way to get better smoke output on a PS1 diesel? I have a 20-2184-1 SD90MAC and it doesn't smoke well when moving. I want it to smoke similar to how it does at 18 volts when running at 9 or 10 volts. I saw something about dropping the voltage to the motor(s) using a diode, can that be used here?
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Is there a way to get better smoke output on a PS1 diesel? I have a 20-2184-1 SD90MAC and it doesn't smoke well when moving. I want it to smoke similar to how it does at 18 volts when running at 9 or 10 volts. I saw something about dropping the voltage to the motor(s) using a diode, can that be used here?
Have you rewicked and soaked the batting? That's what I did on my J class and T1 and they smoke great now.
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I haven't rewicked it but the batting probably could use some replacing. I need to order some.
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Trainlover9943 posted:I haven't rewicked it but the batting probably could use some replacing. I need to order some.
I always say rewick and I really just mean replace the batting. Yes, if you replace the batting and soak it, it will smoke much better. Just letting you know now that the old PS1 smoke units have the batting rapped around the elements so that's what needs to be removed. Then just lay a new ball of batting in the bowl and soak it.
Sid's Trains posted:Trainlover9943 posted:I haven't rewicked it but the batting probably could use some replacing. I need to order some.
I always say rewick and I really just mean replace the batting. Yes, if you replace the batting and soak it, it will smoke much better. Just letting you know now that the old PS1 smoke units have the batting rapped around the elements so that's what needs to be removed. Then just lay a new ball of batting in the bowl and soak it.
Alright I will do that.
Trainlover9943 posted:Sid's Trains posted:Trainlover9943 posted:I haven't rewicked it but the batting probably could use some replacing. I need to order some.
I always say rewick and I really just mean replace the batting. Yes, if you replace the batting and soak it, it will smoke much better. Just letting you know now that the old PS1 smoke units have the batting rapped around the elements so that's what needs to be removed. Then just lay a new ball of batting in the bowl and soak it.
Alright I will do that.
Do you need the Lionel part number for smoke batting?
Any ideas on this?
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Trainlover9943 posted:Any ideas on this?
Yeah, this gaskets go bad all the time. I have corrected that using silicone or liquid electrical tape before to seal the leak.
Sid's Trains posted:Trainlover9943 posted:Any ideas on this?
Yeah, this gaskets go bad all the time. I have corrected that using silicone or liquid electrical tape before to seal the leak.
Put the tape on the gasket itself and attach it back in place?
Sid's Trains posted:Trainlover9943 posted:Sid's Trains posted:Trainlover9943 posted:I haven't rewicked it but the batting probably could use some replacing. I need to order some.
I always say rewick and I really just mean replace the batting. Yes, if you replace the batting and soak it, it will smoke much better. Just letting you know now that the old PS1 smoke units have the batting rapped around the elements so that's what needs to be removed. Then just lay a new ball of batting in the bowl and soak it.
Alright I will do that.
Do you need the Lionel part number for smoke batting?
Yes, I need the number.
Trainlover9943 posted:Sid's Trains posted:Trainlover9943 posted:Sid's Trains posted:Trainlover9943 posted:I haven't rewicked it but the batting probably could use some replacing. I need to order some.
I always say rewick and I really just mean replace the batting. Yes, if you replace the batting and soak it, it will smoke much better. Just letting you know now that the old PS1 smoke units have the batting rapped around the elements so that's what needs to be removed. Then just lay a new ball of batting in the bowl and soak it.
Alright I will do that.
Do you need the Lionel part number for smoke batting?
Yes, I need the number.
If your talking about liquid electrical tape then yes. Here is the part number.
691SMKP008 | SMOKE UNIT BATTING / 8" LONG / PRE-CUT FIBERGLASS |
Alright cool. Thanks! Where would I put the silicone? Same place?
Trainlover9943 posted:Alright cool. Thanks! Where would I put the silicone? Same place?
I usually take the gaskets off, put the silicone on the bare metal, then out the gaskets on and then again out a bead on the top of the gasket. Remember a bead all the way around on the top and bottom of the gasket and it should seal.
I just buy the gaskets from MTH, they're readily available. I don't recommend silicone, the gasket is more than sufficient to properly seal the smoke unit.
FWIW, if you're not getting a significant quantity of smoke at 9-10 volts on the track from a PS/1 smoke unit, something is wrong. They have a voltage regulator circuit to insure vast quantities of smoke at most conventional voltages.
gunrunnerjohn posted:I just buy the gaskets from MTH, they're readily available. I don't recommend silicone, the gasket is more than sufficient to properly seal the smoke unit.
FWIW, if you're not getting a significant quantity of smoke at 9-10 volts on the track from a PS/1 smoke unit, something is wrong. They have a voltage regulator circuit to insure vast quantities of smoke at most conventional voltages.
I didn't even know Mth had the gaskets. I have never had good luck with their parts department so I just gave up and founds ways around it. I know silicone isn't the best but it works for me.
Here's a PS/1 smoke unit with 7 VAC on the power inputs. The picture isn't actually doing it justice, let's just say there's a lot of smoke!
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gunrunnerjohn posted:Here's a PS/1 smoke unit with 7 VAC on the power inputs. The picture isn't actually doing it justice, let's just say there's a lot of smoke!
Have you replaced the batting in that unit and soaked it as well?
Sid's Trains posted:gunrunnerjohn posted:I just buy the gaskets from MTH, they're readily available. I don't recommend silicone, the gasket is more than sufficient to properly seal the smoke unit.
FWIW, if you're not getting a significant quantity of smoke at 9-10 volts on the track from a PS/1 smoke unit, something is wrong. They have a voltage regulator circuit to insure vast quantities of smoke at most conventional voltages.
I didn't even know Mth had the gaskets. I have never had good luck with their parts department so I just gave up and founds ways around it. I know silicone isn't the best but it works for me.
MTH IB-0000006-5 Gasket (for standard smoke unit) (25.0x37.0mm) (0.5mm thick)
The previous picture was one that I took out of the parts box, I have no idea of the condition of the wick, but they'll smoke good until the wick looks pretty grim.
gunrunnerjohn posted:Sid's Trains posted:gunrunnerjohn posted:I just buy the gaskets from MTH, they're readily available. I don't recommend silicone, the gasket is more than sufficient to properly seal the smoke unit.
FWIW, if you're not getting a significant quantity of smoke at 9-10 volts on the track from a PS/1 smoke unit, something is wrong. They have a voltage regulator circuit to insure vast quantities of smoke at most conventional voltages.
I didn't even know Mth had the gaskets. I have never had good luck with their parts department so I just gave up and founds ways around it. I know silicone isn't the best but it works for me.
MTH IB-0000006-5 Gasket (for standard smoke unit) (25.0x37.0mm) (0.5mm thick)
This fits all PS1 locomotives with smoke?
Well, not all... There are some oddball smoke units around, but a vast majority of the MTH PS1/2/3 engines with the full sized smoke unit use the same gasket. I keep some thin gasket material around to make gaskets for stuff that I can't get a factory gasket.