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Hi GUYZ,

  I have an MTH Reading & Blue Mountain Northern T1 20-3250-1, that needs a replacement wick and I am using a Lionel 8 inch wick for the job.

My question is do I use the whole wick or do I cut it.  The bowl seems small for this much wick? I have folded the wick up and have four legs coming down into the bowl, from the heat elements.   I don't want to clog up the hole for the fan motor to work properly. 

Thanks for your time.

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I use the whole wick when I rework a smoke unit - either Lionel or MTH. Just pack it in so that it does not block the fan "blow hole". I soak the wick with smoke fluid and use a small flat screw drive to work it down in the corners. You will be amazed at the increase in smoke output from just this small action. The above video that GRJ posted also shows some other fairly easy upgrades.

Laz57,

Glad to hear that things are smokin'!   

Just a quick related question - on this MTH unit, is the on/off switch for the smoke unit on the tender or the engine? I just got schooled by GRJ on another post. I didn't know that the switch was located on the tender and almost installed an on/off switch on the loco.   That would have been interesting - a three-way on/off switch for smoke!

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hi DENNIS,

  Yes the smoke switch is in the tender opposite of the volumn control switch. 

From MTH site.

Priming the Smoke Unit When preparing to run this engine, add 15- 20 drops of smoke fluid through the smokestack. We recommend M.T.H. ProtoSmoke, Seuthe, LGB, or LVTS fluids. Do not overfill the unit or the fluid may leak out and coat the interior engine components. If you choose not to add the fluid (or have already added the fluid but choose to run smoke-free), turn off the smoke unit switch located on top of the tender (see Fig. 8). Failure either to add fluid to the unit or to turn it off may damage the smoke unit heating element and/or wicking material. Figure 8: Smoke Unit Switch Location

Hi, I saw on another post on this forum that some did not recommend the use of fiberglass as a smoke unit wick, and some recommended to use Tiki torch wick.

I just did a search on Amazon, and it looks like all the tiki torch wicks are made of fiberglass.  Is there another type of tiki torch wick to use???

Thanks,.

There's different fibers of fiberglass.  The fine stuff for insulation chars a bit quicker than wick material.  It actually does work OK, but you might be changing it sooner.

I found braided lantern wick on eBay a long time ago, and I'm still using it.  I posted some years ago about the comparison between my wick and the MTH braided wick, they were functionally identical.  Mine was around 20 cents for what MTH got $2 for.

@ajzend posted:

That reminds me about when I bought an extension cord off of Amazon.  They offered me a service to have it installed and an optional extended warranty.
Alan

I'll bet the installation was pretty steep!

@WaynePa posted:

Here is what they sold me: Lionel Part # 691SMKPKG5

It's been years since you could get those pads, now they sell some odd mesh thing.

They show the other stuff as unavailable, same as it's been for a long time.

This is the only other thing available currently.

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I have an LionChief Plus L&N GP7, and the smoke unit does not work .  The fan operates but the heat element does not appear to heat. When i opened it up, the element was covered with what looks like burnt wick, and it appears that part of the heating coil come off with the wick. When i touch the unit during running it does not seem to get warm/hot.  My questions are,   if i touch the element directly, Should it be hot or warm, if it does not heat would it be better to try to replace the element or the whole unit, and if so where do i get a new smoke unit?  Keep in mind i am in Japan and dont' have access to a train shop here.

Thanks. 

@bluedragon posted:

I have an LionChief Plus L&N GP7, and the smoke unit does not work .  The fan operates but the heat element does not appear to heat. When i opened it up, the element was covered with what looks like burnt wick, and it appears that part of the heating coil come off with the wick. When i touch the unit during running it does not seem to get warm/hot.  My questions are,   if i touch the element directly, Should it be hot or warm, if it does not heat would it be better to try to replace the element or the whole unit, and if so where do i get a new smoke unit?  Keep in mind i am in Japan and dont' have access to a train shop here.

Thanks.

Yes it should get hot.  I don't recommend touching a working smoke heating element (been there done that).

According to Lionel's parts site that unit should have a 16 Ohm element.  Use a meter and see if it reads 16 ohms (within 10%).  If it doesn't then you may need to replace the element - part number listed below.

691RS16OHM / ALT 691RESC016SMOKE ELEMENT / 16 OHM / WIREWOUND

The whole unit if your not comfortable working on it is available:

6402539200SMOKE UNIT W/ 691SGSUA01 / FLYERCHIEF$45.00


Jim

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