Good morning ladies and gentlemen. I thought I would share what we have been working on. We are in the process of building a new rotary coal tipple . It will be built from aluminum just like our turntables and transfer tables. We are making this so that it can be used with all the manufactures rotary cars, even if you have a mixed train of them. Here is an image from CAD to give you an idea of what it'll look like. Our design will allow the use of scale coal without issues of jambs.  We also have plans for additional pieces to compliment the coal industry on your layouts. These include an auto indexing sled to pull cars though the tipple, a flood coal loader and operating conveyor belts for transferring coal . We are working on finishing up the tipple in time to show it off at October York. There is definitely a lot of work that goes into designing these pieces, so we will get them to market as soon as we can. 

CSX AL

 

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Al,

Would you believe: My original layout plans for the Hidden Pass Junction RR included the Rotary Coal Tipple that had been announced by Lionel on the 2011 Volume II catalog, page 79. As we found out shortly afterwards, they decided not to offer the Tipple.

Instead, I used that layout space for a turntable – yes, a Millhouse River Studio 34” turntable. I have posted numerous pictures of this beautiful turntable, which doubles as an access hatch. The turntable also appeared on the cover of OGR magazine’s Run 292 June / July 2017 cover.

Now, where and how am I going to find space for your new Rotary Tipple? I have wanted a rotary tipple so badly that I have an almost completed design to build one myself, but have stopped short due to lack of space. But for yours, I may have to rethink the space search all over.

Alex

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AL,
I did a bit of googling and it looks like rotary tipples have been around for some time.  I model the 40-50s.  So I do not have any rotary gondolas.  Would your rotary tipple fit into a layout set in my time period?

Also, I have your TT, it is of course incredible.  I have not purchased the indexer for it yet, but I plan to because I want the ability to control it with my CAB2.  Will I be able to control the tipple with my CAB2?

thanks!

Ingeniero No1 posted:

Al,

Would you believe: My original layout plans for the Hidden Pass Junction RR included the Rotary Coal Tipple that had been announced by Lionel on the 2011 Volume II catalog, page 79. As we found out shortly afterwards, they decided not to offer the Tipple.

Alex

I have one of the Lionel rotary coal dump (I'm not sure about the term "tipple"), so Lionel did indeed make one. There was a later version with command, I guess? Announced but not made? (Didn't care; had mine.) At any rate, they can be had.

Downside - I built part of my layout extension around this coal dump. Got a nice hole in the layout for it (didn't want the uphill/downhill thing). tested it (I had used it a bit years ago). All fit, all worked. Painted and weathered it to give it a 1950-ish look and lose all the 21st century safety yellow.

It then decided to self-destruct in both the hopper "grabber" mechanicals and the actual drive train (bad gearbox - goes an inch or two then stops except for the "click-click-click...." of the slipping/stripping gears). So, it will be eye-candy only. Or, it may be target practice one day. Repairable? Not really - and I am a believer in fixing things. Even if I got the parts, I wouldn't trust them for long. I know a way to simplify it to make it work manually (as in I control a motor and its speed, and the hopper "clamp" movement seems unneeded, as only one kind of car is to be used - a snug fit should do), but I'll never live long enough to get to it.

Ingeniero No1 posted:

Al,

Would you believe: My original layout plans for the Hidden Pass Junction RR included the Rotary Coal Tipple that had been announced by Lionel on the 2011 Volume II catalog, page 79. As we found out shortly afterwards, they decided not to offer the Tipple.

Instead, I used that layout space for a turntable – yes, a Millhouse River Studio 34” turntable. I have posted numerous pictures of this beautiful turntable, which doubles as an access hatch. The turntable also appeared on the cover of OGR magazine’s Run 292 June / July 2017 cover.

Now, where and how am I going to find space for your new Rotary Tipple? I have wanted a rotary tipple so badly that I have an almost completed design to build one myself, but have stopped short due to lack of space. But for yours, I may have to rethink the space search all over.

Alex

That’s a great story about the layout Alex. I love seeing all the fun everyone has with their turntables. That was a nice cover photo you had. I think the tipple will be another hot item for everyone. My plans right now will be to have the indexing sled to pull the cars through the tipple as a seperate accessory, since a lot of people just won’t have the extra space for it, but you will be able to operate the tipple as a independent unit.

 

T4TT,  I don’t think there will be TMCC control, but I will talk with my computer engineer and see what he says.

CSX AL

 

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OMG, this will be a game changer, having operating SCALE equipment. 

I'm probably 4 - 5 years away from building my retirement layout, and it would be sooooooo cool to have a tipple, conveyor, and a flood loader!

Jim

Formerly Historic Frederick County, Maryland.  Now close to Baltimore.  Modeling both the Reading and B&O Railroads.

 

Alastar 'Bear' 3/8/06 - 8/24/15, one heckuva great dog!

Ingeniero No1 posted:

Al,

What would be a realistic date when you anticipate that the tipple will be available?

Thanks!

Alex

Alex, My plan is to have the working prototype at York. Once this happens I will be ready to start producing them. All the hard work is done.

CSX AL

 

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EMD posted:

Al,

Any idea of the footprint?

 

 

The top plate that sits on top of the layout is approx. 11.75" x 15.75" . the outside of box that holds the drum is approx. 9.5" x 13.5" The motor mounting plate adds 3" off the box short dimension, but when installing into layout you would just insert this area first into hole of layout.

 

CSX AL

 

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Al, maybe the drive motor should be mounted on the outside of one of the below ground walls.  Just bring the shaft through the wall for the motor. My thoughts are that it would make for easier motor access and be a heck of a lot cleaner environment.

Dave Z

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Nice! Now if you can only make a "universal" straddle loader ( a.k.a. Mi-jack) that will load and unload scale containers and trailers that would be awesome!

PLEASE make an intermodal crane!!!!!!  You could put a thin piece of metal in the top of the container and use an electromagnet in the gantry crane to pick it up and let it go.  There is one in HO made by Heljan that I debated gutting and putting in an O scale version but $750 is a bit high to experiment with.....

https://www.walthers.com/opera...-7-16-quot-33-x-57cm

BTW, I have one of the original brass rotary coal dumps made by Harry Roberts if you would like to see it....

Thanks,

Randy

 

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