Source for Pennsy Steam Roster?

Look for the book, "Keystone Steam and Electric" by William D Edison. It is long out of print, but if you can find it, it is the ultimate compilation of PRR steam rosters and numbering systems. 

Here is one at Amazon....

https://www.amazon.com/Keyston...lvania/dp/B0006CKXQS

Tom

Some of the best books I have found are the three Pennsy Power books.

Krieglok posted:

Look for the book, "Keystone Steam and Electric" by William D Edison. It is long out of print, but if you can find it, it is the ultimate compilation of PRR steam rosters and numbering systems. 

Here is one at Amazon....

https://www.amazon.com/Keyston...lvania/dp/B0006CKXQS

Tom

Tom,

  Thanks very much...I actually have the book by William Edson! I just had to walk 12 or so feet to my railroad library. I bought the book in an antique store in Glens Falls, NY in 1999. I did not realize there was an extensive PRR steam roster in it.

  After I posted the topic here, I heard back from Jerry Britton who ran the Keystone Crossings website. He mentioned that the data for his online PRR steam roster, "was compiled by a guy named Edson, who passed many years ago. Data was added over time." So, the very same guy was responsible for the data on the Keystone Crossings website and the Keystone Steam & Electric book. I'm not as lost as I thought I was! 

  Tom 

Ahh, very good!

I have a copy of the same book that I bought back in 1983. Why? I am not sure as I never had a strong interest in PRR steam until years later. It is is my library with the three Pennsy Power Stauffer books...

Tom

I just ordered the book off the Amazon link supplied by Krieglok, THANK YOU for posting the link.

You are welcome, Rick. It is a very informative book. You will enjoy it.

There are multiple copies still available at the same link. I recall PRR steam enthusiasts referring to the book as a "must have" in their railroad libraries...

Tom

Tom,

Maybe this is what you are looking for. I think I downloaded it from the Keystone Crossing web site.

Excellent!!! 

Wow, you had the foresight to download that before the website went kaput. 

Thanks for sharing that. The Edson book, as extensive as it was, was printed in 1974. The Keystone Crossing operator Jerry Britton mentioned that the website had updated info not in the book. 

For example, the locomotive which I mentioned that is in my frame in the original post, #7836, appears in the numerical list at the beginning of the book (which has minimal information), but in the B29 section (unless I missed it), where other locomotives have detailed info, it is not mentioned. Your pdf version nicely fills in the missing data. 

Tom 

Did you try PRR Steam Roster Pt1-NE Rails.....?

There is info and pics of every class Steam locomotive that Prr ever had....A-B thru N-T.

Then they also have every class of diesel and electric motor locomotives, plus Maint of Way equipt.

Everything this site offers is on the bar at the top of the page......I grew up in my early days and lived behind, and across 16th street from the old Pennsy Roundhouse in the west end of Louisville, Ky. I remember seeing a bunch of steam locomotives in and out of Louisville in the mid 50's....

Check this site and see if it helps you of what you are looking for....! 

Hi Brandy,

  I was going to mention North East Rails in the original post...I do like the website and have looked at it every so often, they have pretty good pictures...but I was looking for was the detailed info that i got accustomed to with the Keystone Crossing website. Thanks for mentioning it, though.

The pdf link that LIONEL PARTS provided is just what I was looking for. 

Tom 

Wow.  I am surprised and disappointed that Keystone Crossing has shut down.  They were a treasure trove of information.

George

thanks for posting the steam Roster.   

If you know the URL you can always try the WayBack Machine.

The URL for the old Keystone Crossing website was www.pennsyrr.com.  I tried the WayBack Machine, and it says that site was excluded from its operation.  However, pennsyrr.com is still there, with links to where some of its data and pictures went.  Grab what you want while you still can.

Chuck

As far as the steam locomotive roster, Lionel Parts (see his post above) had downloaded the whole list! I saved it on 2 computers and printed it!  

Tom 

What is meant by "Sequence"?

I believe it is how many times that particular number was used by various locomotives. For example, maybe (just an example) the locomotive in my original post was the "first" time that number was used. Then, let's say that locomotive was scrapped and 7836 was reassigned to a B6sb shifter/switcher, that would then be the second use of that number in the sequence. 

Tom 

Thank you Tom.

There are a lot of PRR books listing PRR steam locomotives. 

Lionel Parts posted:

Tom,

Maybe this is what you are looking for. I think I downloaded it from the Keystone Crossing web site.

 

That was revised in 2011. What about any PRR steam locomotives built since then?

Yes, I'm joking. Thanks for sharing. 

I am sad to see that Keystone Crossings has joined the PRR in the afterlife.

Davety posted:

If you know the URL you can always try the WayBack Machine.

No good. That was the first thing I tried:

The link saved by Lionel Parts works perfectly fine and is pretty thorough. 

Tom 

MNCW posted:

The link saved by Lionel Parts works perfectly fine and is pretty thorough. 

Tom 

I'm browsing it now.

Interesting to see that 40 steamers remained on the property as late as February 1960 when they were finally sold for scrap. These included 2-8-0s, 2-8-2s, 2-10-0s, 2-10-4s, 4-6-2s, and 4-8-2s. I know that 3 L1s locomotives survived as stationary boilers (fired on oil) at the PRR's Wheelspur Yard (auxiliary coach yard) in Long Island City, alongside the LIRR's Montauk Branch. This was a separate facility from Sunnyside and handled overflow trains. LIRR crews would switch the yard and move consists between there and Sunnyside as needed. I'm sure those L1s were among the last to go to scrap. The LIRR leased K4s and H class 2-8-0s from the PRR, but there is no record of an L1s ever being used as a working locomotive on Long Island.

What a waste. Along those lines and on a smaller scale...I remember someone who grew up near North White Plains, NY. The New York Central, then Penn Central had a yard there (now operated by Metro-North). As Amtrak took over passenger service service the railroad tossed out their china. He used to say, there were row upon row of stacks and stacks of New York Central china waiting to get picked up as "garbage." 

Tom