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Apple 55,

I would invite you to google the Walschaerts valve gear. It will diagram the valve gear on this loco.

On this model just above the valve gear you will see the oilers which are activated by a rod from the expansion link to the oilers. The expansion link wobbles back and forth and moves the combination link ,which is the vertical bar, which helps move the top piston on the steam chest.

I've probably done a poor job of explaining, but if you'll google the Walschaerts valve gear it will be clear.

All the Best,

Ron

@Apples55 posted:

If that’s your idea of “a few”, I’d love to see your concept of a lot

That’s a beautiful collection, John - I see a number of my favorites in there!!!

A lot would be all the rest.

John,

I agree with Paul, your definition of "few" is different by most of us here!

I'd hate to see what your definition of "a lot" would be.

May you enjoy each and every one of those engines to the fullest.

@Ron H posted:

Apple 55,

On this model just above the valve gear you will see the oilers which are activated by a rod from the expansion link to the oilers. The expansion link wobbles back and forth and moves the combination link ,which is the vertical bar, which helps move the top piston on the steam chest.

Ron

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Ron - a fascinating piece of equipment. It’s amazing what engineers designed to improve efficiency. Now, one last question… did you build/add all the details yourself???

@Allegheny posted:

John,

I agree with Paul, your definition of "few" is different by most of us here!

I'd hate to see what your definition of "a lot" would be.

May you enjoy each and every one of those engines to the fullest.

Well, I guess a "lot" would be more...

I don't think I'm going to start unboxing everything in the closets or under the layout, I don't have any more shelves to put them on!

Here's the stuff on the shelves or somewhere on the layout...

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Here are the steamers (no diesels or electrics) I have pictures of, including my 24 different types of Pennsy steamers.  All of my Pennsy steamers were in operation during the 1948/49 time frame, the era of my layout.  There were several other types of steamers in operation during that time that I still need:  B8a, E6, H8/9, K2/3, K5, N2, and T1 Prototype with streamlining removed.  Unfortunately, most of these have not been made in O.

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MTH Premier Lackawanna P47 purchased about 2 years ago; I haven't run it yet, but it's on display in my office.

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My 1937 all-original Lionel 700-E scale J1E Hudson, and its modern counterpart made by MTH and converted to DCS by Gunrunnerjohn.

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My Williams brass Niagara, also converted to DCS by Gunrunnerjohn

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Well I commented on the Juice Box Thread so I guess I need to add a little smoke and fire to this one also.

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A little of my Rail King Stable

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My Premier "A"

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A little of my MTH Premier Stable

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A little Postwar Magic 671

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More Postwar magic 746

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my Postwar 2046

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And more Postwar Magic 2055 & 2065F6745C47-ACFE-4381-99A7-0B68BA4EDEE6

and more Postwar magic 2026

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and some more Postwar 1665

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My late Cousins Postwar 736 been in the family since new around 1950

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Great thread Guys! 

The boys came out for a family portrait.  The Lionel 736 2-8-4 Berkshire was a beast and often was the biggest steam engine in the catalog in the 1950s and 1960s.  While I never had one as a kid, I made up for it starting in 2009.  In the first picture, the first four on the left are vintage 736s, the loco on the far right is a Conventional Classic   726 from several years ago.

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In the picture below is a Lionel 726 that I acquired at York in 2014. The main difference between the 726 and the 736 is that the 736 has magnatraction, while the 726 has more realistic looking wheels. 

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@Former Member posted:


Great thread Guys!

The boys came out for a family portrait.  The Lionel 736 2-8-4 Berkshire was a beast and often was the biggest steam engine in the catalog in the 1950s and 1960s.  While I never had one as a kid, I made up for it starting in 2009.  In the first picture, the first four on the left are vintage 736s, the loco on the far right is a Conventional Classic   726 from several years ago.

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In the picture below is a Lionel 726 that I acquired at York in 2014. The main difference between the 726 and the 736 is that the 736 has magnatraction, while the 726 has more realistic looking wheels.

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That is an incredible collection of postwar steam. Like an old catalog cover.

Boy I think @Dave_C has more Rutland engines than the Rutland actually had.

2 out 3 of the K1 Pacifics, 4 out of 10 of the Ten Wheelers, 4 out of 7 Mikados, got both of the 0-8-0’s covered. Only one Consolidation but Lionel’s doing a Western Pacific with white striping and a correct Rutland rd. Number.
Just missing a Mountain. Unless Scott offers one there’s just nothing out there close enough. Shame because it was a real looker.

I think mad dock is trying to make a point.  While I agree with csam, I can see that the better way to approach this is to repeat photos as many times as possible, in hopes that management will disable the "reply with quote" button.  So, good on you, mad.  Keep doing it.

Meantime, how about one without paint?

Dockside July 2020

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I guess all of us who thought we might be threatened by becoming packrats got buried in this avalanche!  l hope the Ski Patrol can find me at the bottom of this pile!   But others above are road specific as l,  and still are missing models they want.   Three rail models l want have been made in two rail and HO.  I hope this thread goes on and on to picture the many,  many wild and wonderful steamers that ran through history.

I guess all of us who thought we might be threatened by becoming packrats got buried in this avalanche!  l hope the Ski Patrol can find me at the bottom of this pile!   But others above are road specific as l,  and still are missing models they want.   Three rail models l want have been made in two rail and HO.  I hope this thread goes on and on to picture the many,  many wild and wonderful steamers that ran through history.

Packrats??? I must respectfully disagree… we are curators of incomplete collections of indeterminate size containing scale and non-scale railroad models As for the Ski Patrol, I don’t think they have big enough shovels

Thanks Paul.

Dallas as I said in the Alex M thread about his fantasy Pacemaker Mohawk, in our little world steamers are extremely exciting action wise but how much hulking black iron is enough?  Diesels are much more appealing to the eye, especially first generation, when railroads took advantage of those great big sides and decorated them with some awesome paint schemes.  Some railroads did dress up some of their steam varnish, like Southern and GN streamlining steam in the art deco period gave many railroads that first canvas to add some color.  The many different attempts at streamlining also added to the visual appeal.

  Eric, It’s a Weaver Light Pacific. They came in multiple road names and were done in diecast. From what I gather. These were originally built for K-Line and when they ran into trouble Weaver took over the order. They may have even decorated them. They are built similar to the K-Line Mikes detail wise and feature K-Lines cruise. I  got pretty good deals on both that I own. They show up every now and then on the auction sites. One I own was a Lehigh Valley. The other was a military one. Both featured the white striping on the running boards. Other than re lettering the only other mod. was  I moved the bell using a stock Lionel one from the boiler front to the center. They are somewhat close enough to the Rutland’s K1’s. Not sure but the new Lionel ones look longer than these. Not sure where the tooling went for these.

There’s one on eBay now. A CN with the white striping. Cab windows though are red. I paid less for my 2 than this ones going for. Still way cheaper than the latest prices of new steamers. Factor in at some point the K-Line cruise will probably give out. Adding ERR and maybe a better sound set they aren’t a bad deal. They have a mechanical puffer that you may want to upgrade if your into smoke. Probably not the best puller as it has a small motor. But the Rutland ran short passenger trains. If your pulling a milk train. The new cars maybe the best rolling cars I’ve ever run. It should easily handle them.

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@coach joe posted:

Thanks Paul.

Dallas as I said in the Alex M thread about his fantasy Pacemaker Mohawk, in our little world steamers are extremely exciting action wise but how much hulking black iron is enough?  Diesels are much more appealing to the eye, especially first generation, when railroads took advantage of those great big sides and decorated them with some awesome paint schemes.  Some railroads did dress up some of their steam varnish, like Southern and GN streamlining steam in the art deco period gave many railroads that first canvas to add some color.  The many different attempts at streamlining also added to the visual appeal.

I agree Joe.

The CEO and I do like the look of the Pennsy steamers with their tuscan colored cab roofs and tender water tank tops and the all tuscan Pennsy Pacific.

      We just bought a WM Challenger with the tuscan treatment and fireball decor along with the Allegheny DM&IR with the greenish gray  top end and the UP Challenger in light gray with the silver stripe.       A little added color does help out with the all black theme.

I'll have to hold off on purchases right now, but like I said, the photos you posted gave me a renewed interest in steamers.

I've been specializing in streamlined steam, but have a whole bunch of other engines. Not all shown here, as I've gotten way behind in taking photos of my engines. These are all in the living room of my one-bedroom apartment, along with the books, artwork, and other collections.

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Absolutely amazing collection, Andrew - thanks for sharing. I see several of my favorites, especially the T1.

@Dave_C posted:

  Eric, It’s a Weaver Light Pacific. They came in multiple road names and were done in diecast. From what I gather. These were originally built for K-Line and when they ran into trouble Weaver took over the order. They may have even decorated them. They are built similar to the K-Line Mikes detail wise and feature K-Lines cruise. I  got pretty good deals on both that I own. They show up every now and then on the auction sites. One I own was a Lehigh Valley. The other was a military one. Both featured the white striping on the running boards. Other than re lettering the only other mod. was  I moved the bell using a stock Lionel one from the boiler front to the center. They are somewhat close enough to the Rutland’s K1’s. Not sure but the new Lionel ones look longer than these. Not sure where the tooling went for these.

There’s one on eBay now. A CN with the white striping. Cab windows though are red. I paid less for my 2 than this ones going for. Still way cheaper than the latest prices of new steamers. Factor in at some point the K-Line cruise will probably give out. Adding ERR and maybe a better sound set they aren’t a bad deal. They have a mechanical puffer that you may want to upgrade if your into smoke. Probably not the best puller as it has a small motor. But the Rutland ran short passenger trains. If your pulling a milk train. The new cars maybe the best rolling cars I’ve ever run. It should easily handle them.

Dave, thanks for the background on this one. The video looks great! I like your custom milk cars as well. I’ll keep an eye out for these light Pacifics. Agreed the one on eBay is too much if it has the small k-line motor and cruise.  Thanks for the help

@CAPPilot posted:

I see you still need the Penny’s two streamlined K4s; the Torpedo and Streamlined.

I've got those. Way behind on taking individual photos of my trains, and I've pretty much given up. Still have some in boxes, and received this from a member on the Forum this week:

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I think I will just take new photos of what I have, on the shelves, and be done with it.

Old photo of some of my shelves (two made by Classy Woods, no longer in business):

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I also have these wooden trains from the 1940s by Strombecker, all assembled and painted and now, after many decades, on display:

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On the he Great Northeastern Railway (GNR), steam is the main source of motive power. Here are some of our engines:

PRR 4-6-0 by Weaver converted to MTH Protosound 3

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PRR K-4s by MTH with Protosound 2

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C&O Allegheny by K-Line converted to MTH Protosound 2

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GNR 0-4-0 dockside switcher by MTH with conventional control.

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Post War Lionel 2-6-4

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Well I can't duplicate anything close to the beautiful detailed scale engines, so just for fun...let me post some of the "foreign" or "old" engines for your view.

Lionel 224 - 1940's

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American Flyer "Champion" 1930's

AF Champion Set - front view of train

American Flyer type X - late 1930's

AF type x loco front 2

ALPS (Japan) NYC tank switcher - 1950's

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American Flyer "Hummer" clockwork engine -1920's

American Flyer Hummer loco front quarter

American Flyer cast iron # 16 -1931

American Flyer type 16 A.F. 16 loco 1923-26

American Flyer type XX  - 1934

Flyer set 301 Locomotive

French Hornby type OE - 1954

French Hornby Loco

French Hornby type M - early 1950's but available since the 1930's.  Smoke deflectors and simulated cylinders added post war.

French Hornby MO set - loco

Hornby LMS Tank Engine - 1950's

Hornby M3 side

Hornby (post nationalization) British Rail locomotive - 1954

Hornby Type 51 loco and tender 2

Well there's a few "odd fellows" for you.  Best Wishes

Don

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Here's my New York Central steam fleet with an interloper from the the Great White North.IMG_1186IMG_1187

30-1133-0 MTH RK Commodore Vanderbilt, 30-1143-1 MTH RK Empire State Express, K 3270-0001 K-Line 20TH Century Limited

30-1102 MTH RK L3A Mohawk, 6-38643 Lionel Alaska RR Mikado, not the Lionchief version but a really sharp looking engine, K-3010 K-Line NYC Pacific in gray paint reminiscent of the 20th Century Limited.

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Lionel 6-11303 C&O T-1 2-10-4 with the cylinder steam...and lighted gauges in the cab!  A real beast and  often overlooked Lionel gem.



Now I am a big fan of MTH steam engines,  BUT Lionel did the BEST job on these Texas class models.  I bought my Lionel Pennsy TMCC version years ago.  When MTH introduced this engine  (and using now) that use a ten driver frame that they used on another engine.  The MTH tooling  shoves the rear drivers well into the firebox.  Not a good look or prototypical.

Ron

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OK about a week ago, I posted about 10 what I called "odd fellows" made by some of our off shore manufacturers or made pre- war (like 0 gauge American Flyer).  Today, I thought I would post one of my favorites, the Marx 333.  This 4-6-2 was designed by Marx to compete directly with the Lionel engines of the 1950's.  Brought out in 1949 and available until 1958 this gal was one of only two 6 driver engines Marx ever made and the only one in die cast (other was a plastic boiler).  When combined (as here) with the #3991 die cast tender it made a magnificent pair.  It has smoke, illuminated number board, headlight, die cast boiler, smokebox, cab and boiler front.  The matching tender #3991 was the only die cast tender Marx ever made and its heavy enough to pass as a door stop! .  IMHO this was the finest steam engine Marx ever made and matched his competitors (of the time) pretty well.

Marx 333 steam loco

The full width "V" shaped pilot and the lack of awnings over the cab windows date this gal from 1949-1954.  In 1955 the casting was revised to flatten the pilot and add awnings over the cab windows.

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Best wishes

Don

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While l prefer steam, l have an affinity for gas electrics, rail buses, steam coaches, and assorted shortline critters.  Attached is a photo of two Lionel set O-8-0's, one bashed into a Great Western Consol. and the other with Elesco and piping for my freelance road . And there is the steam coach.  Buried in a box and not pictured is a bashed steam dummy.

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More of my steam fleet. Don picked out the Southern Power on a photo of my NYC Steam earlier.  Dressed up in passenger green but no distinctive Crescent markings.

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Lionel 16088 Southern RR 4-6-2 Pacific, Lionel 16046 Wabash 4-6-4 Hudson, one of the first if not the first TMCC steam engines and hiding in the back is a Williams AT&SF Blue Goose.  I really like that paint scheme and even though Williams version is a Class J Northern and not a Hudson I just couldn't leave at Trainland all those years ago.

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