Beautiful, indeed....both the E1 and EA.  

Have given up waiting for the same from 3rd Rail in O3R.

Bought the HO versions from Broadway Limited....also gorgeous. (sigh) ....and a tad more affordable.

You know, the hoof beats of mortality (or are they coconut shells?) tend to grow louder each day......and that's even with the hearing aids turned down!  So, you satisfy an itch with whatever's handy.

mark s posted:

Santiago:     have you figured out how to get the "nose" coupler out, behind the swinging doors?  I used another coupler and gave it a tug on my Key CB&Q E5's, but could not budge the nose coupler. Any thoughts?

Mark, I've never tried that. My guess is you the coupler has a two position screw, so you may need to unscrew, bring forward and screw again. But, don't quote me on that. My E1 will never see anything but clear tracks in front of her 😊

Santiago - Thank you for contemplating my issue !    BTW, the Burlington Route Historical Society just released a homage to the E5.......think you might want to acquire one!   Interesting side note - - - your comment about your Santa Fe locomotives only seeing clear track in front of them - -- in the "homage", it was noted that the earlier Burlington shovel nose diesels created a problem for the locomotive crews:  nystagmus, or being hypnotized by the on-rushing ties so visible from their out front perch.

Guess I will just leave well-enough alone and not tinker with my E5's front coupler.  Although my stream-lined back-up Aeolus 4-6-4 was just itching to go rescue a disabled E5 out on the road !

Hi All,

Here are some photos of the Rockford O Scalers Baltimore & Ohio EMD EA and EB.  As previously discussed, these models are by Key Model Imports and are similar to the AT&SF E1s both featuring twin Winton diesel prime movers.  

The B&O EAs were actually the first EMD E units ever delivered (beginning in May 1937) but the Santa Fe units were right behind with deliveries starting in June 1937.  Both the EAs and E1s are beautiful locomotives but since the E1s debuted the classic Santa Fe Warbonnet paint scheme, there is little  argument as to which one is more memorable!

 

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Rule292 posted:

Imagine the lucky fellow who got to hold down the assignment in the right hand cab seat on those back in the day.

Absolutely beautiful locomotives.

They were probably *****ing about it not being steam, and being more at risk riding in front of the loco.

Frank McCabe posted:

Further to my comment about the Warbonnet paint scheme, it is, with little doubt, the most beautiful diesel paint scheme ever created.  Congratulations to Leland Knickerbocker of the EMD Styling Section for the inspiration!F6492BC8-26C7-458E-9411-1463C504FC8FAE69C741-61A0-4571-9BF7-E159AE5B5576

It is indeed an attractive paint scheme, but there are others out there equally good and in the OPINION of some, better. To proclaim it unanimous is, at best presumptuous.

CB&Q, NYC, KATY (TEXAS SPECIAL), GM&O TO NAME A FEW.

Simon

 

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

To put it differently, the warbonnet is the most ICONIC... It's impossible to think about American trains without considering Kinckerbocker's creation...

That is true; I recall seeing on railfaneurope.net a few years ago a series of photos of some double-ended diesel (Romanian?) that was painted in a full ATSF warbonnet paint scheme; even so far as having SANTA FE in the cigar band on the ends.

Later Gator,

  Dave

 

Here comes a Yankee with a blackened soul,
Heading to Gatow with a load of coal.
......Anonymous U. S. pilot during the Berlin Airlift

This isn't sour grapes because I TRULY don't care, but a lot of the popularity of the Sante Fe brand was created by advertising and public relations people. It was jammed down the throat of every prepubescent brat at every opportunity. The ubiquitous war bonnet paint was everywhere the BIG L was. Ask any child of the 50's!

So I like to take a pot shot at the sacred cow now and then! 

Santiago.....sorry, the best looking E is the 7 (opinion) 

Simon 

Maybe 30 years ago, the Santa  Fe war bonnet scheme was cited as the most recognizable image in the railroad industry by the general public. Perhaps Lionel had much to do with that. Of today's paint schemes, due to lack of variety and monotony, suspect no scheme is memorable to the general public.

About 50+ years ago I paced 5 Santa Fe red and stainless steel F units along Chicago's parallel Stevenson Expressway, pulling the Super Chief, in brilliant, early morning sun. That was one of the most impressive human creations I have ever witnessed!  I'm ok with "most beautiful" !

mark s posted:

Maybe 30 years ago, the Santa  Fe war bonnet scheme was cited as the most recognizable image in the railroad industry by the general public. Perhaps Lionel had much to do with that. Of today's paint schemes, due to lack of variety and monotony, suspect no scheme is memorable to the general public.

 

You can bet your "bippy" that Lionel was a major factor. Can you remember seeing ANY other Lionel scheme as often? I have trouble even remembering any other scheme! LOL

As for recognizable modern schemes, maybe UP or NS depending on what end of the country you live in. As for BNSF, I think they kinda butchered that one! 3 classic color schemes down the drain to get a rolling Lifesavers ad.  (opinion)

Simon

mark s posted:

Santiago:     have you figured out how to get the "nose" coupler out, behind the swinging doors?  I used another coupler and gave it a tug on my Key CB&Q E5's, but could not budge the nose coupler. Any thoughts?

Mark, I’m working on my Key RI E6 which I presume has the same pilot as our E5... see below...

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To the argument re Santa Fe's E1 'Warbonnet' paint scheme being iconic, the USPS couldn't have agreed more....as displayed in their All Aboard!  stamp celebration from 1999...

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After all, most of us can recall from that wonderful Christmas film, Miracle on 34th Street, that the US Post Office's delivery 'declaration' about the other Santa....Santa Claus...that he was indeed real, and truly the defendant on trial...established their authority in such matters.

Ergo, who am I to argue with the United States Post Office to place the E1 Warbonnet (Super Chief) on the same pedestal as the GG1 Congressional, the Dreyfus Hudson 20th Century Limited, the the Hiawatha, and the Daylight?

They settled the issue.....right?

KD

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