Subway stations and structures

Two entities come to mind...BridgeBoss, and Silk City Bridges (an offshoot of the NJ Hirailers--but not certain if this side venture is still operating)

Accurate elevated and underground stations you may still be on your own to scratchbuild.

---PCJ

Totally recommend Bridgeboss. He built a custom elevated station for me last year and it was really nice.

You may want to check out http://www.nycmodeltransit.org

This links shows how to scratch build an El: http://www.nycmodeltransit.org/ModelEl.htm

If you prefer not messing with a build - bridgeboss is closet to what your looking for.

There was another site (can't find) which had fabricated El from birch wood in Ho & O.

Good luck with your project

Thanks 

Couple shots of the El, Phila .style.Subway cars are modified Lo V. to depict Delaware River Port Authority.the El .I made out of basswood ,to fit above the existing track, each,a different dimension,WHEW. Bridge ,Walt Whitman with the Philly skyline.Just a matter of making everything fit to your own imagination.Realistic?? in my world fun!!

MTH - Railking made some subway accessories: trestle bridges, subway entrances, trestles and I think they made an elevated subway station.

James at Bridgeboss...great work.

RICH B posted:

Couple shots of the El, Phila .style.Subway cars are modified Lo V. to depict Delaware River Port Authority.the El .I made out of basswood ,to fit above the existing track, each,a different dimension,WHEW. Bridge ,Walt Whitman with the Philly skyline.Just a matter of making everything fit to your own imagination.Realistic?? in my world fun!!

Nice work Rich !   Not many model anything to do with Philly, that I know of.  I haven't ever seen any subway or streetcar equipment, with any of the Philly transportations companies names on them, manufactured by any of the model train producers in our scale either.  

There is only one realistic and correct model EL. Contact Joe Frank for EL information. 

http://www.wtv-zone.com/NYCity.../NYCityModelTransit/

  See my site for Tunnels.

Realistic indeed. Thought it was real.

Does Joe Frank of NYC Model Transit sell el structures or just builds them for his own use. 

Jim at BridgeBoss makes some nice EL structures. Rich Battista’s Black Diamond RR used Jim’s EL

yanksali posted:

Does Joe Frank of NYC Model Transit sell el structures or just builds them for his own use. 

"Built" is probably the operative word. I haven't heard him speak of building any additional structures once his personal layout was done.

---PCJ

Appreciate all the advice and input 

Hello Yanksali

First, thanks to SIRT (Steve P) for the mention and nice plug -- Steve is a master modeler himself also

Building a realistic EL structure, trackwork and stations is pretty much like using the same general format as building a real prototype EL --- you need to consider space, location, how wide the structure (1, 2, 3 tracks or more) is to be,  and as such it is generally built as "custom" just as real EL's were built -- designed to fit in, around, among existing streets, terrain, alleys, real estate, whatever,  along the line, etc, 

The "model" EL structures - to be fully realistic looking - are built basically like the real ones -- and to general "bridge and trestle building" standards.   You first location-site and erect each of your EL columns, and then install cross spans on them to hang track girders from -- and upon the finished EL structure you then build your track deckwork.   It takes quite a bit of designing and fabrication (well, mild engineering) skills to scratch-build fabricate and erect piece by piece, section by section.  EL Stations must be custom designed like the real ones -- and most are "individualized" in construction to fit the needs, cross-street locations, and terrain..   Think of it as building an endless set of trestle bridges for your entire transit line... with "stations" along the trestle !  To be honest, it is not for the easiest to do for those with little to no modeling skills and having little, heh, patience and dedication.  It "is" a modeling  "art form" within itself - and requires much pre-research and dedication to attain the desired full realism and detail effects.

Of course, most early NYC ELs in Bronx, outer Brooklyn, Queens and northern part of Manhattan, were built over yet to be developed or paved (ie: mapped out on survey plans) street and avenues in basically rural barren woods or farmlands.  We are lucky in the model field as we can design both the streets, the EL and the City-scape scene around it to all fit together.

Steve Olsen created a webpage (link here ) http://www.nycmodeltransit.org/ModelEl.htm    on our NYC Model Transit Assn. website that Steve created and  maintains.  I also published a book and later, a CD, on building El structures and the layout modules for them to be erected on.  The CD is available but the booklet it was created exactly from, is some years now out of print --- originally published  in the late 1980's and upgraded in early 2000's.

I have no more, heh,  space in my trainroom for building more (HO or O) EL structures for expansion  -- I started with a small 4x8 HO SCALE EL layout back in 1964-5 which grew huge by late 1970's -- and I went to O Scale in 1984.  Here is the link to my FLICKR ALBUMS pages of photos (in their respective Albums) of my O Scale and HO Scale EL layouts -- the HO Album shows a lot of re-construction as the layout grew and grew and older modules were re-worked to fit into the new layout plan. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/44268069@N00/albums

The ALBUMS feature photos by topic, subject and scene genre on the Layout (O and HO) -- so its quite a lot to see !

If you want to purchase custom manufactured EL structure components - per some of those mentioned in further above earlier postings on this Thread  - be prepared to spend quite a lot of money for those products depending upon how big, long, your EL system line will be built.  But then you don't have to fabricate each piece from scratch yourself either !

regards - Joe F

Where can CD to build structures  be obtained from 

Hello Yanksali

As I do not see an email address for you listed in your OGR profile -  please Send an email to me at  "   irtelman@yahoo.com    "   and I will email reply back to you and give you the name and contact email address of the person who makes the CD -- he has the master.  He is a friend and long time member of my NYC Transit Modelers Group - and to respect his privacy I will not provide his email address here.

You can contact him for info on obtaining a CD and he will need your US mail mailing address. 

I will email him to alert him to look for your possible email inquiry !

Regards - Joe F

Mr Frank

I am assuming you are the same Joseph Frank on NYC Model Transit Association website? I love the photos on the website. The subway scenes are so realistic. A work of art. 

I have  numerous  MTH O scale subway sets because I grew up in NYC. 

I am trying to come up with a subway track plan for 8 x 16 layout.  I want to have an elevated line and a subway one on a board below  the main board. I can’t find any subway track plans in a book or online. 

Was thinking of having the elevated line go point to point with auto reverse. 

By any chance do you have any subway track plans that can be used for a guide. 

Regarding NYC Model transit, where does the organization meet? Can anyone join? 

Yanksali

I have sent you TWO EMAILS to the email address that was on your email sent to me --- and BOTH times my reply email to you was bounced back as UN-DELIVERABLE by Mailer Daemon.   I sent a copy of my email to you to the friend who makes the CD's - to give him a heads up.  He also is aware that my emails to you both bounced.  Here is what the internet postal delivery agent wrote:

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