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Hot Water, yes we have.  But, that was a while back, really before the L-131 was produced.  Who knows, now with the L-105 possibly adding to the demand.  Nothing ventured.  Nothing gained.  Seems to me.  

And at the price point for the L-131 and now an even higher MSRP for the L-105 perhaps an "over $400" price tag for an "accurate" (your words) might work.  Can't hurt to ask.

 So, Scott, how about considering one?  Maybe you could put out a feeler with a price and see what happens.  Noting ventured, nothing gained.

Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places and have surely missed some for sale.  But my experience over the past two years has been black steam era "accurate" cabooses are rare as hen's teeth and very pricey. I've seen them go for way over $400.

Erik.  A belated thanks for the info.  Turns out I figured out that  the Division Point, OMI, and Joint Line(DVP/Berlyn) Grande Cabooses - done a long time ago and in small quantities are just about the only game in town in brass.  And I frequently check the sources you mentioned and others.  But, thanks all the same. I'll drop cabooses on this topic since it's really about the L-105.  But, just wish someone would do an accurate Grande steam era caboose in brass or plastic as long as it's well done and accurate.

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samparfitt posted:

Just picked this up on ebay.  Nice MTH 20-91015 NIB DM&IR caboose.

That is a 3-Rail Santa Fe caboose painted & lettered for DM&IR, thus it is NOT prototypically correct.

Will go nice with my M-4.  Haven't check but it seems like there should be some nice non brass D&RG cabeese available.

Since your M-4 Yellowstone is also 3-Rail, and if you are not all that interested in prototypical accuracy, I suppose any old caboose could work? 

 

My HO: accurate.

Custom painted and lighted interior and marker lights.

3 rail: close enough for 'now': In HO, I can, virtually, get anything that I want.  In O gauge, it's extremely limited.  I'd rather have something close running behind my engine than no caboose.  If something comes along later, I can buy that and sell the old one.

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I'm considering one of these three versions:

3. Green Boiler, Chevron, Flying Rio Grande Lettering (Green 1941)
4. Black Boiler, Chevron, Early Lettering (Black Early)
5. Black Boiler, Chevron, Flying Rio Grande Lettering (Black Late)

I like the idea of #4, but would like to know the dates each of the versions would be seen. Can anyone give me a reference or some dates for each version? Thank you.

After the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the Rising Sun was changed to Chevrons on the L-105s in late 1941, early 1942. The boilers were still Green.

Shortly there after the boilers were painted Black when shopped, and the tender lettering was changed to Flying Rio Grande after WWII.

During the War these details changed from engine to engine, and I am not sure if anyone knows exactly when they were changed.

So it's up to the individual whether you want the mixed early and late configs or not.

Scott

EBN posted:

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Tons of great photos of the L-105 - all liveries - 

 

Denver Public Library (key words "Otto Perry" "4-6-6-4")

 

 

There are some great photos here, thanks for posting this.  Curiously, L-105 #3700 is shown in-service without the “box” on the front pilot.  While I’m not very knowledgeable about this engine, there appears to be two sand domes for their respective engines on the boiler so what is the box on the pilot, another supplemental sand box?  Why was it missing in the photo? Tia

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Christopher Cinque posted:  

There are some great photos here, thanks for posting this.  Curiously, L-105 #3700 is shown in-service without the “box” on the front pilot.  While I’m not very knowledgeable about this engine, there appears to be two sand domes for their respective engines on the boiler so what is the box on the pilot, another supplemental sand box?  Why was it missing in the photo? Tia

Isn't that a water brake? Recall reading something about it long ago.

BobbyD posted:
Christopher Cinque posted:  

There are some great photos here, thanks for posting this.  Curiously, L-105 #3700 is shown in-service without the “box” on the front pilot.  While I’m not very knowledgeable about this engine, there appears to be two sand domes for their respective engines on the boiler so what is the box on the pilot, another supplemental sand box?  Why was it missing in the photo? Tia

Isn't that a water brake? Recall reading something about it long ago.

No, that "box" is not the "Water Brake".

colorado hirailer posted:

Oh, boy...the second of my favorite road's monumental power, and l am only modeling a shortline with a Grande connection and helper siding, so acquiring another to only sit on the siding makes no sense.  What about Exposition Flyer cars? Has anybody made those?  I have looked for the DM&lR caboose, also, but only the side door version, not seen lately. 

There are some cars available by default. But a select group of cars has not been done intentionally as a group. Here are some of mine:

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That is an additional sand container on the pilot deck. The reason that some photos of L105's appear w/o the container is that the Grande added them perhaps a year after delivery of the locomotives. Some of the L131/132's also received the additional sand container on the pilot deck a number of years after going into service. The water brake apparatus would be seen on the cylinders.

Chris,

Correct.  That's a Key, factory painted black but I added the green boiler.  Also, painted the cab interior.

I believe the front box held sand.  Being an articulated engine, having the sand on the front engine prevented having to have some kind of moving pipes from the sand dome to the drivers.

 D&RGW L-105 4-6-6-4 FP 09D&RGW L-105 4-6-6-4 FP 10

Also, have the L-131.

PFM HO version:

This one was unpainted from the 'factory'.  

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3rd Rail version:

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My last D&RGW engine is the M-68 4-8-4, yet to be painted with a green boiler.

I'm GN but I've always liked the L-105 and L-131 and the M-68 will look good with a green boiler. 

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