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Well good morning T.E.T. fans, I seem to be the lead off this morning although I am often late!  We all know that up until recently every train had a caboose and Lionel was certainly not going to go against with that trend.  In the pre-war period, up until the 1940's Lionel caboose's had quite a playful and colorful composition.  They changed both through the years and as Lionel brought out different lines of trains.  So here are some Lionel prewar caboose's.

The first which was available from 1915-1926 was the # 801 4-wheel caboose, they also offered an 8 wheel caboose #822 of which I don't have a picture.  Here is the humble little 801 at the end of a 1920's vintage train.

152 Electric 1926-27 and train

In about 1923 Lionel introduced a second series of cars, but the caboose was not released until about 1927 with the type 807, apparently the #801 served the purpose and other types of cars were improved first.  At first it was peacock and green (do you believe it!) , finally about 1928 we have the classic "red" caboose, but with a peacock roof.  Still 4 wheels.  This version from about 1931 is dated by its copper journals but otherwise is much the same.

Lionel 807 caboose sidese

Around 1933, the first of the second generation, 8 wheel cars was offered.  There were two series, one the smaller or "650" series and the other larger or "800" series.  Here is the #657 caboose available from about 1933-1941

Lionel 657 caboose side

Finally, "big brother", the 800 series car was available from about 1926-1942,  It came is various color schemes, all peacock, peacock roof / red body, and this one all red body, roof and cupola.  This one dates to about 1935.

Lionel 817 caboose side

To give you an idea of the size differences, here are all 3 (L to R) the 803, 657, and 817.  By the way if you guessed that the 807 and 657 look alike except for the frame and trucks, you would be correct.  The body of the car except for the application of 8 wheel trucks and frame was the same.

Lionel 804,657, 817 caboose trio

By the way, while all this was going on at Lionel, in 1938 W. Coleman and A.C.Gilbert merged their companies and the well known Gilbert American Flyer trains were born.  In 1939, Gilbert introduced 3/16" scale or "S" scale trains but retained (until after WWII) O gauge trucks and track.  As a comparison, here is the American Flyer #484 caboose from 1940-46 shown with the Lionel 650 and 817 caboose.

Lionel - American Flyer pre war cabooses

Well that's my "Tail End's" for today.

Best Wishes Don

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Well here we are again T.E.T. fans. In that golden postwar period, Lionel with their passenger cars after a few years of re-issuing their tinplate heavyweight cars, just like the real RR at the time, decides its time to update to more modern lightweight passenger consists.  So it issues, in 1948-49, the "2400" series, small streamlined passenger cars.  These gals would appear and re-appear many times, in various livery's, over the years down to present day.

So for "Tail End" Tuesday, here from the first series issues, the 2401 "Hillside" observation car from the first series in 1948-1949.

Lionel 2401 HIllside obs side

Here is the "tail end" shot for daytime.

lionel 2401 Hillside obs unlit end

Here is the tail end shot, showing off her nighttime lights.

Lionel 2401 Hillside obs lit end

Best wishes for a happy, healthy week everyone.

Don

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Wow Larry that is some display of cabooses.  Glad you posted or our poor T.E.T. thread may have gone without entry.  I am really late today, had to go to Ft.Worth for an appointment and now its nearly 6:15 here in Central Texas.  But ... here is my contribution today.  An "oldie" by many standards, one of Lionel's first SP type cabooses that came along right after they stopped making the tinplate N5 PRR's.

This dates from 1949-1952 although this is one of the earlier ones.  The brown ones came first with black stacks and ladders, brakewheels, and toolboxes ...these were followed by a maroon color scheme later in the period.  So here is the Lionel #6457 SP caboose from about 1949-1950.

Lionel 6457 caboose

Happy "tail end" Tuesday everyone.  Best Wishes

Don

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Well T.E.T fans, here I am like last week late to the party again!  Today was a long day of helping the CEO get the house ready for house guests.  If you have multiple teenagers living in your house you know that it's often not ready for guests !

Well last week I showed a Lionel SP caboose from the early post war period.  Lionel was really innovative in those days so I thought I might include another caboose line, the work caboose.  Lionel made a number of these, the most famous the early grey DL&W with a light or without the light.  The one with the light was on the end of my 1947 "work" train set that was my first train. Well here are two later and likely less expensive varieties that Lionel brought out in the middle to late 50's.

Here is the Lionel # 6119 D.L.&W. work caboose in red.  this fellow from 1955-1956.

Lionel 6119 DL&W work caboose side

Here is the same car but numbered 6119-25 in orange from 1956-1959

Lionel 6119 work caboose orange side

Here they are together.  They are really Identical in construction except for the colors and some fine details on the coupler (the red version has a "tab" coupler).

Lionel DL&W 6119 Cabooses -side

Both cars are based on the 6111 flatcar but without one set of railings on one end.  Only the word "Lionel" is imprinted on the flatcars forming the base of the caboose.

Best Wishes

Don

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@Don Winslow, I just love the picture above with a tail over heads picture, really cool and the caboose is very nice and the diesel is beautiful, (nice layout) Wow. @Don McErlean, I like your line up of work cabooses to, @Apples55, now thats a beautiful red work caboose, So, I’m almost late to the party, but here’s something to review. Happy Railroading Everyone 8921AEEF-ED8A-494A-B58D-337DF991FD70A21354D6-DE46-4CF8-B8E4-C4593B8BEE26A7D1A837-6D61-463A-8CDD-27CDB948C489

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Well here it is T.E.T. and I have a recent acquisition to post.  A few weeks ago I acquired a Southern RR  U-36b diesel for my Leonardtown and Savannah RR but I did not have a SRR caboose.  Luckily at a very recent train show, I managed to find a Lionel (MPC) matching caboose.  So here is the Lionel # X-9066 Southern RR caboose from 1973-1976, same vintage as my new road switcher.

Lionel 9066 SRR caboose side Lionel 9066 SRR caboose w boxcar

Happy Tuesday everyone!

Best Wishes

Don

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Theater car??

Ron

Yes. Used to haul stage scenery, props etc between cities / venues. Surely a very specialized car. My car is named “Othello”, a clue as to nature of car if all you see is it’s profile. The elaborate car end facilitated loading and unloading bulky items.
3rd Rail Sunset delivered these neat cars in 2014 - along with horse cars. I can’t imagine many of these brass cars were made. They are nice head end cars !!!!
Cheers

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@TrainBub posted:

Yes. Used to haul stage scenery, props etc between cities / venues. Surely a very specialized car. My car is named “Othello”, a clue as to nature of car if all you see is it’s profile. The elaborate car end facilitated loading and unloading bulky items.
3rd Rail Sunset delivered these neat cars in 2014 - along with horse cars. I can’t imagine many of these brass cars were made. They are nice head end cars !!!!
Cheers

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Never head that term before.  Am know the car type with/for end loading for horses and autos.

NICE!

Ron

Wow, @Don McErlean you beat me today, that’s a beautiful acquisition of a nice red caboose Southern Pacific, @Trumptrain, I like the fellow, possibly a policeman, on a neat motorcycle riding on beautiful streets, neat pictures, @Sitka, beautifully lighted cabooses, nice night scenes., beautiful pictures everyone. Happy Railroading Everyone DC9472BE-7BC2-418B-A5C9-D51ED8716FCB356ADDF2-548C-4986-ACCE-6A2E07AA39AB28982B91-AC03-4089-8502-7ABAAFCB6330A0A22F12-3D3E-4C0C-A9FE-8FA7BFA5C2DF

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Here's my rears for his fine Tuesday!  A day when the toilet in the caboose is on the blink ... Conductor Ernie Watts, standing beside the caboose,  shouts to brakeman Boo Macalister whose now been in the outhouse for 10 minutes " Hey Boo! Hurry it up in there!  You think you're working an office job?!"  To which Boo replies " Just a minute Ernie I still have paper work to finish!"  910F9C30-2844-4CE3-B02B-74050024B943_1_201_a

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Well good morning T.E.T. fans, I seem to be the lead off this morning although I am often late!  We all know that up until recently every train had a caboose and Lionel was certainly not going to go against with that trend.  In the pre-war period, up until the 1940's Lionel caboose's had quite a playful and colorful composition.  They changed both through the years and as Lionel brought out different lines of trains.  So here are some Lionel prewar caboose's.

The first which was available from 1915-1926 was the # 801 4-wheel caboose, they also offered an 8 wheel caboose #822 of which I don't have a picture.  Here is the humble little 801 at the end of a 1920's vintage train.

152 Electric 1926-27 and train

In about 1923 Lionel introduced a second series of cars, but the caboose was not released until about 1927 with the type 807, apparently the #801 served the purpose and other types of cars were improved first.  At first it was peacock and green (do you believe it!) , finally about 1928 we have the classic "red" caboose, but with a peacock roof.  Still 4 wheels.  This version from about 1931 is dated by its copper journals but otherwise is much the same.

Lionel 807 caboose sidese

Around 1933, the first of the second generation, 8 wheel cars was offered.  There were two series, one the smaller or "650" series and the other larger or "800" series.  Here is the #657 caboose available from about 1933-1941

Lionel 657 caboose side

Finally, "big brother", the 800 series car was available from about 1926-1942,  It came is various color schemes, all peacock, peacock roof / red body, and this one all red body, roof and cupola.  This one dates to about 1935.

Lionel 817 caboose side

To give you an idea of the size differences, here are all 3 (L to R) the 803, 657, and 817.  By the way if you guessed that the 807 and 657 look alike except for the frame and trucks, you would be correct.  The body of the car except for the application of 8 wheel trucks and frame was the same.

Lionel 804,657, 817 caboose trio

By the way, while all this was going on at Lionel, in 1938 W. Coleman and A.C.Gilbert merged their companies and the well known Gilbert American Flyer trains were born.  In 1939, Gilbert introduced 3/16" scale or "S" scale trains but retained (until after WWII) O gauge trucks and track.  As a comparison, here is the American Flyer #484 caboose from 1940-46 shown with the Lionel 650 and 817 caboose.

Lionel - American Flyer pre war cabooses

Well that's my "Tail End's" for today.

Best Wishes Don

Nice tutorial! I'd sign up for your "vintage toy trains" course in a New York minute!

@trumptrain posted:

Here's my rears for his fine Tuesday!  A day when the toilet in the caboose is on the blink ... Conductor Ernie Watts, standing beside the caboose,  shouts to brakeman Boo Macalister whose now been in the outhouse for 10 minutes " Hey Boo! Hurry it up in there!  You think you're working an office job?!"  To which Boo replies " Just a minute Ernie I still have paper work to finish!"  910F9C30-2844-4CE3-B02B-74050024B943_1_201_a

Which is what most paperwork turns out to be, anyway...

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