LionChief Plus, 4-6-4 Hudson, NYC

LionChief is good stuff, I feel it is better than Legacy because each engine has it's own controller, thus two operators can run two trains at the same time. I would like to see Lionel put LionChief in some of their scale engines. $318.00 is a great buy. $1000.00 for Legacy Controller & an engine. 

When my grand children or a friend comes over, all I have to do is hand them the LionChief Plus Controller and away they go. Hands on, for visitors

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Great job Gary, This is one of my favorite engines the cruise control works great. I ran the engine pulling 8 passenger cars on the double spiral with up to 9% grades and the speed stayed consistent over the entire display.

Looks like a great piece of gear.  The whistle could use a more distinctive tone.  Sounds a lot like some of the entry level locos I already have.

It's a great buy because it's not in a scale engine.
 
Originally Posted by trainroomgary:
I would like to see Lionel put LionChief in some of their scale engines. $318.00 is a great buy. $1000.00 for Legacy Controller & an engine. 

Gary,

 

Very nice video, i enjoyed it. The Lionchief engine's sure sound and run great.

 

 

Thanks,

Alex

My first two LC+ engines were duds and LC anything wasn't looking so great.....#3, the Chessie Mikado, is a solid little engine and I've been very happy with it.
Originally Posted by trainroomgary:

LionChief Plus, 4-6-4 Hudson, NYC

LionChief is good stuff, I feel it is better than Legacy because each engine has it's own controller, thus two operators can run two trains at the same time. I would like to see Lionel put LionChief in some of their scale engines. $318.00 is a great buy. $1000.00 for Legacy Controller & an engine. 

When my grand children or a friend comes over, all I have to do is hand them the LionChief Plus Controller and away they go. Hands on, for visitors

I could not agree more.  I love them, although I have to say that when you have five of the remotes sitting there on the shelf of your control table, you often pick up the wrong one, even when you've written the road number of each.  I love love scale locos with this control system.  Simple, radio, flawless, with good control.  I love LC+

Great review Gary. I just got the same loco yesterday and gave it a test drive last night. It's a great engine and perfect for my little layout.

OK, Gary now you have gone and done it!  I was always on the fence about whether to buy one of these and when watching your video this morning my 8 year old was all over this ..... He was eating breakfast while waiting for the bus, heard the video saw the controller and said "Dad that is what I want from Santa"  Now I have to call my LHS ......

Gary, great un-boxing video on a nice locomotive.  I have two LionChief + engines and love them both.  Awaiting more to arrive.  Thanks for posting.

 

Steve, Lady and Tex

Originally Posted by maint:

Do you need a separate controller for each engine?

Yes. Each Lion Chief loco comes with a controller that exclusively controls that loco.

Originally Posted by Fredstrains:

Did I hear TWO Chuffs per Revolution or FOUR??

Gary...I repeat TWO Chuffs or FOUR each Revolution??

 

Just Curious

Originally Posted by Fredstrains:
Originally Posted by Fredstrains:

Did I hear TWO Chuffs per Revolution or FOUR??

Gary...I repeat TWO Chuffs or FOUR each Revolution??

 

Just Curious

Hello Fredstrains • In the comment section of this You Tube video, Brad from Bradstrains pointed out this issue and ask the same question.

The answers is Two Chuffs per revolution.

Brad is a top notch High School Student, who for the past several years has work for Eric's Trains at his Home Tours.

Only a professional model railroader would notice this detail.

Most of the visitors to my Trainroom are non model railroaders. They can not tell a Hudson from a Mikado.

The main point is to let visitors have fun, I have 10 engines on Lionel Cab #1 and 16 engines on MTH's DCS Remote. These controls can be very complex for a beginner.

Hope this answer the question.

 

 

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I tell you, videos such as this have sold more LionChief+ engines than anything else.  The awesome sounds, smoke, speed control and pulling power all become very apparent with these videos. 

 

And I totally agree about the ease of control.  When this system was first announced, I was skeptical that it would be accepted well within this community.  I thought people would scoff at it and think it was only for the beginners to the hobby.  But look at how popular they have become.  And for good reason.  People of all abilities -- and more than one at a time -- can control trains.

Originally Posted by trainroomgary:
Originally Posted by Fredstrains:
Originally Posted by Fredstrains:

Did I hear TWO Chuffs per Revolution or FOUR??

Gary...I repeat TWO Chuffs or FOUR each Revolution??

 

Just Curious

Hello Fredstrains • In the comment section of this You Tube video, Brad from Bradstrains pointed out this issue and ask the same question.

The answers is Two Chuffs per revolution.

Brad is a top notch High School Student, who for the past several years has work for Eric's Trains at his Home Tours.

Only a professional model railroader would notice this detail.

Most of the visitors to my Trainroom are non model railroaders. They can not tell a Hudson from a Mikado.

The main point is to let visitors have fun, I have 10 engines on Lionel Cab #1 and 16 engines on MTH's DCS Remote. These controls can be very complex for a beginner.

Hope this answer the question.

 

 Thanks, for the info. I was just curious. I think the VIDEO was fantastic. I'm sure it will sell Trains!!!

 

Great video Gary.  Well done, precise, to the point, full of pertinent information, easy to follow and fun to watch.  Also, I love your choice of shirts!  I have one just like it!  

Thank-you fellow OGR Members for watching the video and commenting. 

I have read all your comments and I feel this is the best thing to come from Lionel since they introduced 'ODSSEY Speed Control" about 12 years ago.

    The strong point for LionChief Plus+, is one control to one engine and very easy to set up and operate. Great for visitors that come to your trainroom.

    Just hand it to them and the fun begins • Hands On • 

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Originally Posted by Art:

Just ordered one. One question for you, is this the same size as PW locomotives?

 

Thanks,

Art

Yes, it's traditional size, not scale. It's advertised by Lionel to run on O31 curves. I have O36 FasTrack curves and it runs on them just fine.

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Originally Posted by Country Joe:
Originally Posted by Art:

Just ordered one. One question for you, is this the same size as PW locomotives?

 

Thanks,

Art

Yes, it's traditional size, not scale. It's advertised by Lionel to run on O31 curves. I have O36 FasTrack curves and it runs on them just fine.

Thanks, Joe

I don't know if anybody mentioned it but the sounds can all run simultaneously. With my starter set 0-8-0 the chuff stops while the bell is ringing or the whistle blows and only comes back on after the other sound stops. With the LC+ Hudson the bell and chuff are on at the same time. The same with the crew talk. Plus, the loco is a fabulous smoker. It almost puts out too much smoke for my little train room. My wife would say it's too much, but I love it.

Gary,

That was a great review of a very nice locomotive and control system.  I will certainly be looking at LionChief Plus in the future.  Thank you for the effort to put together such a nice review.

Gary,

I've been seriously thinking of buying one, so I went back to your and Lee Willis' reviews.  I can feel my wallet getting lighter.  

 

Great job on all your videos!!

Thank you.

Yep Gary you did a fine job with this review. Hope you don't mind, after reviewing this thread again I got to thinking about the video I made of the LC+ NYC Hudson pulling the 8 Polar Express coaches around our Christmas display.  There's no lack of power in these Locomotives and the cruise control performs to perfection. If anyone is on the edge about these, here's a push.

 

 

I've been on the fence on getting one of these, this video is really making me want one now.

 

Silly question though, I'm assuming the rolling stock in the video is "traditional" sized O, not scale, is that right?  Lionel's website is saying the locomotive is "Traditional O Gauge", but sometimes the sizes look off and engines look almost scale sized, even though they are labeled otherwise.

 

Thanks and best...Rich

Matthew,

thank you for posting the video of your Christmas Layout pointing out the LC+ pulling the the PE cars.  If this is the same video I saw at Christmas time, I mistook it for the PE Berkshire.  While my PE cars are some of the lightest ones I have, any locomotive that can pull ten of them up your steep, tight curves without any trouble is a workhorse, no doubt.  I was thinking of the LC+ NYC Hudson to pull my baby Madison heavyweight consist.  I have an NYC RailKing Hudson, and would like to compare.

thank you again.

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