Tall Buildings Tuesday

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

I checked my calendar, and today is Tuesday. Did someone eat all the tall buildings today? Maybe because it is the end of the month and everyone is busy. At work, its crazy and I've almost lost my train of thought a few times. Are there any tall buildings today even if it is later on today?

Thanks Dave for the wakeup call...and you other fellows that chimed in today with some great additions above!  It in fact has been a busy day as we go to press for the next issue....some final adjustments have taken up most of the day.  So....being late they say is better than nothing at all....how is this?...

What you can do with several MTH 6 story buildings combined:

And here is another:

Not the tallest building in town, but our tallest production run offering so far. The Pickwick Hotel in Kansas City. The model tops out at about 25". We'll produce the entire hotel portion of the Pickwick complex if you are game!

Some excellent things gentlemen. I must regret that work was long, and I have to get up just a bit after 4 instead of almost 5 for another long day. Hopefully all my trains of thought will keep on the rails. I look at it this way, overtime now, more trains and such tomorrow. Good night all, and thanks again for the splendid things now and more to come. Can't wait to see what's coming in the next issue as well.

I am building the Ogilvie Transportation Center (North Western Metra Station} with is waterfall frontage in laser cut blue acrylic. 

I designed a concrete version of this building for C&NW to show it would be less expensive than doing it in steel. (except the frontage)

Alan  when is your book  "Building a Hi-rise City in Your Basement"  coming out? 

And Hey I know a great publisher!

Wow, that looks very interesting Alanrail.

Another view showing the entrance. notice how the window framing is like a waterfall. A series of arches but the inset glass is rectilinear not curved.  The cost of the curved glass was too expensive.

For me making curved glazing would be problematic. note the front flat glass columns that are decorative and not supporting any of the frontage.  

BACK SIDE OF BUILDING

Don, tall and hi-rise are relative terms and your building definitely qualifies as tall on your layout as does Melgar's building and coaling tower.

Alan and Skip are masters of the downtown, big city skyscraper, but all of the other posters have provided tall in various forms. 

Alanrail I can't wait to see your OTC when it's done.

dk122trains posted:

Hope these qualify!

 

That first building gets a five star WOW!  Can you give us more info on what all went into building it?

The second pic is very good, too.

Time for Tall Building Tuesday!.....here are a few:

Some backdrop skyscrapers along the west wall:

I’m on a quest to start building up as well. They are not in place yet, just starting the process.

Nice job Joel...!!  Here are a few pictures I took this morning:

Alan, in that ninth picture, what is that dome shaped building? Almost looks like an interesting popcorn popper.

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Alan, in that ninth picture, what is that dome shaped building? Almost looks like an interesting popcorn popper.

LOL....!!  Now I will never be able to look at that building again without thinking about a popcorn popper!  Probably will name it as the headquarters for "Popcorn Poppers Inc."...!  OK...that building was supposed to be about 3 times taller but the components I had planned for that were supposed to be sold to me were accidentally sold to someone else.  The mirrored floors are made up of circular (motorized) display platforms stacked on top of one another.  The top is a clear display container that was meant to be inverted as a bowl to hold small cosmetic products in a local store that went out of business and had all kinds of neat displays that could be re-purposed.  I will be adding a garden under the roof dome with a few figures sitting around enjoying lunch, etc...All put together like you see them represents a modernistic mirrored glass building.  I sure wish I could find about a half dozen or so of those display platforms!!

The Seagram Building, NYC

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Alan, in that ninth picture, what is that dome shaped building? Almost looks like an interesting popcorn popper.

LOL....!!  Now I will never be able to look at that building again without thinking about a popcorn popper!  Probably will name it as the headquarters for "Popcorn Poppers Inc."...!  OK...that building was supposed to be about 3 times taller but the components I had planned for that were supposed to be sold to me were accidentally sold to someone else.  The mirrored floors are made up of circular (motorized) display platforms stacked on top of one another.  The top is a clear display container that was meant to be inverted as a bowl to hold small cosmetic products in a local store that went out of business and had all kinds of neat displays that could be re-purposed.  I will be adding a garden under the roof dome with a few figures sitting around enjoying lunch, etc...All put together like you see them represents a modernistic mirrored glass building.  I sure wish I could find about a half dozen or so of those display platforms!!

That's very cool Alan. I remember seeing pictures of Neil Young's layout where he had the old Filtex vacuum cleaner as an industrial factory, similar to this one.

Thank you Alan, would like to know how you build some of yours, how about an article or two?

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

And here is another:

What building or kit is this one? I thought I saw all of yours but every time I look, I see another one!

JDFonz posted:

Thank you Alan, would like to know how you build some of yours, how about an article or two?

Joel...I have had several articles in the OGR magazine, both in the print and digital versions, that discuss how some of them have been built.  Also....doing a search here on the forum will likely find a few topics that have covered this topic.  THANKS!

Engineer-Joe posted:

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

And here is another:

What building or kit is this one? I thought I saw all of yours but every time I look, I see another one!

Joe...if you are talking about the blue clad building, it is made up of a couple of 1970's Kenner Girder and Panel sets.  These can be found on a few of the larger auction sites like ebay, etc....

Thanks. Must be in a different light? I remember that story about the building. Unless of course, you have several?

Engineer-Joe posted:

Thanks. Must be in a different light? I remember that story about the building. Unless of course, you have several?

The light was coming in from one of the east windows (morning sunrise) so it gives the panels a reflective look.  Also, there are several skyscrapers on the layout using different Girder and Panel sets.  You likely will be able to see some of them when reviewing the previous posts in this thread....

Alan I see you've got two different types of El structures on your layout.  Can you tell us the manufacturers?

coach joe posted:

Alan I see you've got two different types of El structures on your layout.  Can you tell us the manufacturers?

Sorry Joe...I just saw your question.  The El structures are a combo of custom and locally made pieces.  The black structure you see in the main downtown area is not available by any manufacturer since it was a custom piece designed by specs I supplied to the CNC cutter.  The green El was made by Steeltoys owned by Pat Fusco who died years ago and so the elevated system he developed is no longer available.  We do have at least two advertisers/sponsors that produce elevated....TW TrainWorx and Bridgeboss....

OK....I didn't forget...just a little late.  It has been quite a stormy day in my part of the country and we have been busy picking up after the storm.  Anyway, here is a picture that Bill Bramlage did a couple of years ago where he photo shopped a storm coming over downtown....

Here is a picture of an area of the layout showing high rises beyond the double decker bridge....

Took this photo of my Lionel Dreyfuss Hudson and realized I got a lot more Art Deco in the photo than I originally planned.

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Alan tanks for the info on the els. I believe the fact that you have different styles of el, as witnessed by the double decker adds a bit more interest.  I believe I remember "Storm Brewing" from an older post of yours.

Skip sometimes the best results are accidental.  Your photo is a perfect examle of "never too much Art Deco".

I know today is Tuesday, but it feels like Monday. I hope everyone had a relaxing Memorial Day and none of the tornados touched down in anyone's neck of the woods. Hope to see some tall buildings if anyone is able.

Been a "double day" here at OGR....Monday and Tuesday combined together!!  Finally got to TBT..!

OK...here is a picture of one of the first new skyscrapers for the new layout way back in December of 2008.  What you see is where the main downtown area is today.  The Ertl taxi cab gives some perspective of the size and height of the building...but what blew my mind when I found this picture today (I had forgotten about it) is how bare everything was!!..LOL!!

Very impressive Alan.  Using the cab for perspective really emphasizes the enormity of it.  What's it made out of?  It looks to be some translucent plastic material.  The black towers to the right of the picture are also impressive.  The connecting sky bridge is a nice touch.  What's the low structure between the sky bridge towers?  Is it between or behind?

coach joe posted:

Very impressive Alan.  Using the cab for perspective really emphasizes the enormity of it.  What's it made out of?  It looks to be some translucent plastic material.  The black towers to the right of the picture are also impressive.  The connecting sky bridge is a nice touch.  What's the low structure between the sky bridge towers?  Is it between or behind?

Thanks Joe!  This was made from a architectural building kit called Uberarc.  The kits initially came out in the color you see...later the parts were available in a multitude of colors and came translucent as well as solid.  You may have to do a Google search about these kits....they were really something else!  The low structure was the beginning of my large train station that you see in more recent pictures located next to the train shed structure.

Hi Alan,

thats the building that has always caught my eye. I love that color. I’m going to have to look that up. Thanks for the info. Here’s  my latest. Not on the layout yet, still not complete.

JDFonz posted:

Hi Alan,

thats the building that has always caught my eye. I love that color. I’m going to have to look that up. Thanks for the info. Here’s  my latest. Not on the layout yet, still not complete.

Love it!!  You will have to post here how you built it...looks like you have the skyscraper bug!...LOL!

What the heck...no one checked in yesterday (yep, OK...not even me )....it was a busy day!  In any case, let me continue with some very early pictures of the first tall buildings that I was building for the layout way back in 2008....

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

What the heck...no one checked in yesterday (yep, OK...not even me )....it was a busy day!  In any case, let me continue with some very early pictures of the first tall buildings that I was building for the layout way back in 2008....

Nice building Alan. Yes, yesterday was busy, but this whole week has been in one form or another. Today is actually the good busy we all like here.

In any case, its good to see Tall Building Tuesday even if it is slightly behind schedule. However, what do I know, it could be Tuesday on your layout, right?

Alan not bad for a first attempt at skyscrapers.

The round gold building in this picture was made from a cardboard tube for pouring concrete piers and then I wrapped it in gold faced poster board using various widths of automobile striping tape for the floors, etc....

Alan, occasionally I have flashes of imagination like yours where an ordinary object is transformed in my mind into something useful for a layout.  It seems as though your imagination is working constantly and then you bring it to fruition.

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

The round gold building in this picture was made from a cardboard tube for pouring concrete piers and then I wrapped it in gold faced poster board using various widths of automobile striping tape for the floors, etc....

That is very cool!!!

Alan, when I first started reading that, I thought you said Rold Gold, lol. Very fine building you have there.

"Blows steam whistle!!!!!" Today must be a busy Tuesday since no tall buildings have showed up. I know its busy here with one coworker heading to Italy with his two daughters for two weeks. Where are them that there tall buildings hiding? Anyone, anyone????

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

"Blows steam whistle!!!!!" Today must be a busy Tuesday since no tall buildings have showed up. I know its busy here with one coworker heading to Italy with his two daughters for two weeks. Where are them that there tall buildings hiding? Anyone, anyone????

I don't know what happened to our friend Skip...he has been missing for a while now on this thread!!  Anyway, how about a couple of pictures of a skyscraper under construction:

Alan, is that building going to stay under construction?

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Alan, is that building going to stay under construction?

Dave...that building has been under construction for around 6 or 7 years now...LOL!!

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Alan, is that building going to stay under construction?

Dave...that building has been under construction for around 6 or 7 years now...LOL!!

Ah, that's nothing. My uncle had his Plasticville house(I believe it is) that was under construction up for over 20 years at the most. It got packed up and was out for another 10 years. Sadly though after that his collection has been in storage. He did drag out his old ZW to get it overhauled and the cord replaced(mice, and not the computer kind). He and I chat maybe once or twice a year and he always remarks on how different things are and expensive. I tell him its all the electronics in the engines that is probably the biggest cost.

Time for Tall Buildings Tuesday!!  Sure wish more of you would post here.  You don't have to have super tall skyscrapers to post....any tall structure on your layout is fine!  It could be a factory with tall smokestacks or a refinery...or a grain elevator complex...or...???

Here are a few shots taken this morning:

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Time for Tall Buildings Tuesday!!  Sure wish more of you would post here.  You don't have to have super tall skyscrapers to post....any tall structure on your layout is fine!  It could be a factory with tall smokestacks or a refinery...or a grain elevator complex...or...???

Well... if I ever get started on my city scenery trying to emulate yours, I'll share!

For now, I'd rather look at yours and Skips

OK, here's some of mine. 

please delete this post before I get into trouble. 

Nice as usual Alan. I would say that the buildings on the Xmas tree layout are far too short being Department 56 buildings. Santa is even as tall as some of them, of course though as Ralphie says in A Christmas Story, "The big man himself". Maybe I could pop one or two pics(when I get home). I'll have to measure, l.

P.S., where's Skip?

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Nice as usual Alan. I would say that the buildings on the Xmas tree layout are far too short being Department 56 buildings. Santa is even as tall as some of them, of course though as Ralphie says in A Christmas Story, "The big man himself". Maybe I could pop one or two pics(when I get home). I'll have to measure, l.

P.S., where's Skip?

I don't know what happened to Skip...perhaps he got off the elevator on the 100th floor...  Perhaps you can contact him and ask for some new pics!!

Perhaps Skip is working on a new building, or doing research, I don't know. It would be great to see him pop in. @NYC Fan, whatcha been up to?

There Alan, if that doesn't get him, will have to see if he got lost in Harmon Yards behind the L2a Mohawk. Perhaps he was loading up some coal for the long haul.

I am having fun just looking at some of the images you guys put up. Since currently my layout is on hold and scheduled to have a different track plan. Though I am not sure if I will be able to have many buildings in it's current iteration. 

Here are the tall buildings in the city of Christopolis, served by the Great Northeastern Railway. We are not in the same league as many of you with fabulous city scenes. However, here is our small contribution to this great thread!

Superman flies by the Chrysler Building as he protects the citizens of Christopolis.

The Empire state Building and the Crysler Building ar visible in the background of this photo from the wharf area.

As three trains leave Christopolis Union Station, some of the skyline is visible in the background.

The Empire State Building.

The Empire State Building as seem from the street.

Here’s one under construction, and my Empire State Building.

I'm a little short on tall buildings 😏

But I might be able to scrape a couple up 😁

I might build a few soon, but they aren't high priority 😂

Or nearly as lofty in ambition 🤣

No basement bargin here 

The price; skyhigh  

My judgement must have been clouded 

Ok. Ok..I'm done monkey-ing around 🤗

A centerpiece for topping an 0-27 micro-circle 🙃

I've delayed climbing into it; waiting for inspiration 😘 

I really am; no big tale on Kong   

JDFonz posted:

Here’s one under construction, and my Empire State Building.

Is that Empire State Building a Uberarc kit?  If not, is it scratch built...really want to know more!  Looks great!

Yes Alan, an Uberarc kit that I bought maybe 10 years ago. I remember buying it at a toy show in Chicago. I really want to build another like the teal one you have but I don’t think they are in business anymore. 

JDFonz posted:

Yes Alan, an Uberarc kit that I bought maybe 10 years ago. I remember buying it at a toy show in Chicago. I really want to build another like the teal one you have but I don’t think they are in business anymore. 

Can you tell me what the dimensions are of the model please?  The foot print as well as the height?

The Uberarc kits are available via auction sites but I think you are correct, the company does not seem to be in business any longer.  The last update to their website was way back in 2010.  Thanks!

Alan, Coach Joe is like Engineer Joe, no layout but I've got a couple of tall buildings for the planned future Metropolis.  I'll have to get some pictures of them and post them next week.

Okay here's one, not on the layout yet, and not looking excessively tall, but in real life the Budweiser Brew House in St. Louis is actually quite tall.

coach joe posted:

Okay here's one, not on the layout yet, and not looking excessively tall, but in real life the Budweiser Brew House in St. Louis is actually quite tall.

Hey Joe!!...I have that one on the layout too!  It is a very nice building!

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Engineer-Joe posted:

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

And here is another:

What building or kit is this one? I thought I saw all of yours but every time I look, I see another one!

Joe...if you are talking about the blue clad building, it is made up of a couple of 1970's Kenner Girder and Panel sets.  These can be found on a few of the larger auction sites like ebay, etc....

Alan... that is amazing that you got ebay to be a forum sponsor?!?! I am assuming this since you are directing people to ebay to order things???? Otherwise that would be contradictory as to what you preach here on the forum.

again congratulations on getting ebay as a sponsor!!!!??????????????? 

Alan,  I'm going to put it next to an HO Factory building that I converted to a Clydesdale barn.  It had a roll up door for trains to enter that's just about the right size for a porcelain 8 horse hitch my wife got for me years ago.

Looks great Coach Joe. I only have the Xmas tree layout 5x3& change, enough for O42 curves. No tall buildings but when things get settled, I've got plans(which still have to be drawn up, lol). Until that time, still grabbing what I can.

Marty Milner posted:

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Engineer-Joe posted:

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

And here is another:

What building or kit is this one? I thought I saw all of yours but every time I look, I see another one!

Joe...if you are talking about the blue clad building, it is made up of a couple of 1970's Kenner Girder and Panel sets.  These can be found on a few of the larger auction sites like ebay, etc....

Alan... that is amazing that you got ebay to be a forum sponsor?!?! I am assuming this since you are directing people to ebay to order things???? Otherwise that would be contradictory as to what you preach here on the forum.

again congratulations on getting ebay as a sponsor!!!!??????????????? 

Marty....a typical smart guy response I would expect...so let me make it clear again:  note that there is no direct link to any seller on ebay.  You have been on the forum long enough to know that we have no problem with folks mentioning ebay ...it is done all the time but we don't allow direct links to ebay.  Read the TOS....  Your problem is you are ticked off because I had to once again a couple of weeks ago tell you not to promote your product on this forum with direct links to your business website reminding you that it was not fair to our paying sponsors/advertisers here.  Don't understand why you would have a problem with that since when you were a sponsor, you would constantly complain about folks promoting with direct links and asking that I delete their posts.....

Alan, sorry for such a delay with the answer on the uberarc Empire State Building. It is almost impossible for me to get back to it now, so my best guess is 8”x10” for a footprint, and nearly 5’ high.

Still wondering where Skip is, guessing vacation since he hasn't logged in in some time.

Is it Tuesday already?  Boy does time fly by fast when one is having a good time....am I...?   OK...here are a few more taken last week:

Keep it up Alan. Hopefully Skip will get back from vacation and give us some goodies.

Welcome to Schenectady day or night!

Don those buildings have a lot of character.  I don't recall seeing anything like them before.  Are they bashed, kits, building fronts?  Where'd you get them?

They are scratch built models of actual buildings from Schenectady. 

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Mounted on the corner of the wall opening. Bashed from Korber kits.

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Is it Tuesday already?  Boy does time fly by fast when one is having a good time....am I...?   OK...here are a few more taken last week:

Stunning. Arnold

dk122trains posted:

Welcome to Schenectady day or night!

I checked your profile and see you are from Schenectady. I spent some time there when I attended Albany Law School, which was affiliated with Union College in Schenectady.

It's very cool that you have models on your layout of buildings from where you live. Arnold

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

dk122trains posted:

Welcome to Schenectady day or night!

I checked your profile and see you are from Schenectady. I spent some time there when I attended Albany Law School, which was affiliated with Union College in Schenectady.

It's very cool that you have models on your layout of buildings from where you live. Arnold

And I think your models of the Schenectady buildings look great. Arnold

Don those are some great looking scratch builds.  I wouldn't even know how to go about doing that detaileed work.

I'm not into tall buildings on my O Scale RR. But I built a HO Scale RR at the Holyoke Mass Senior Center. I got the plans and some blueprints for the Holyoke City Hall from the Building Department and constructed this 36" tall City Hall Building with precision board.

Hello Gene,

Very nice job on that model of the Holyoke City Hall building!  What did you use for the rounded cornices?

I used the Precision Board and turned them on a lathe, Precision Board is great for models, it's so easy to work with.

Nope...didn't forget....just got too busy trying to finish up my next Publisher's Corner article!  How about this from street view looking up...?

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Nope...didn't forget....just got too busy trying to finish up my next Publisher's Corner article!  How about this from street view looking up...?

Google maps street view Alan? Sure looks like it.

Experimenting with some LED up-lighting for my background buildings. Like the look and will do some others.

B&O Fan posted:

Experimenting with some LED up-lighting for my background buildings. Like the look and will do some others.

WOW...tell us more about those buildings!!  How were they made and especially the tall white one on the left!!

B&O Fan posted:

Experimenting with some LED up-lighting for my background buildings. Like the look and will do some others.

Now that is cool.

I've been using some HO scale tall buildings as background buildings to try and add depth. The white one is a Bachman Spectrum kit and the tan is a Custom Model Railroads (CMR) kit. I've found the Bachman series pretty available online for fairly reasonable pricing. The CMRs are high but the detail is outstanding. I have to do about 3-4 more HO scale for background and then my back drop photos can be mounted. Using black and white photos blown up to about 4'x3' to go behind the buildings, like this.OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

B&O Fan posted:

Experimenting with some LED up-lighting for my background buildings. Like the look and will do some others.

WOW...tell us more about those buildings!!  How were they made and especially the tall white one on the left!!

B&O Fan posted:

I've been using some HO scale tall buildings as background buildings to try and add depth. The white one is a Bachman Spectrum kit and the tan is a Custom Model Railroads (CMR) kit. I've found the Bachman series pretty available online for fairly reasonable pricing. The CMRs are high but the detail is outstanding. I have to do about 3-4 more HO scale for background and then my back drop photos can be mounted. Using black and white photos blown up to about 4'x3' to go behind the buildings, like this.OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

B&O Fan posted:

Experimenting with some LED up-lighting for my background buildings. Like the look and will do some others.

WOW...tell us more about those buildings!!  How were they made and especially the tall white one on the left!!

 

Nicely done!!  Beautiful!  I have some of those Bachmann HO kits that I have used for flats....

Hey look, it's Tuesday.

Got some more buildings wired in this weekend and the Bromo Tower got a new blue LED instead of the grain of rice bulbs I had in the top of it.

JDFonz posted:

Alan, sorry for such a delay with the answer on the uberarc Empire State Building. It is almost impossible for me to get back to it now, so my best guess is 8”x10” for a footprint, and nearly 5’ high.

Thanks JD....You inspired me to find one of these sets because I wanted to build one with a few slight changes.  I will post the results shorty with some pictures!

OK....JD inspired me to acquire one of the Uberarc sets that has enough pieces to construct the Empire State Building.  I made a few modifications so as to not duplicate the ESB exactly because my city is not modeling any particular metropolis....so....we will pretend that the firm of Shreve, Lamb, and Harmon who designed the EMB also did this similar structure for the First National Bank in my city...  It now joins the skyline and here are a few pictures:

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

OK....JD inspired me to acquire one of the Uberarc sets that has enough pieces to construct the Empire State Building.  I made a few modifications so as to not duplicate the ESB exactly because my city is not modeling any particular metropolis....so....we will pretend that the firm of Shreve, Lamb, and Harmon who designed the EMB also did this similar structure for the First National Bank in my city...  It now joins the skyline and here are a few pictures:

You are FAST!!!! How long did it take for you to assemble the kit?

Randy Harrison posted

You are FAST!!!! How long did it take for you to assemble the kit?

Randy...I assembled it and took it apart a couple of times to make some changes and fix some mistakes...but it took me a total of about 5 hours not including breaks.   There are almost 1300 pieces making up the model...

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

Randy Harrison posted

You are FAST!!!! How long did it take for you to assemble the kit?

Randy...I assembled it and took it apart a couple of times to make some changes and fix some mistakes...but it took me a total of about 5 hours not including breaks.   There are almost 1300 pieces making up the model...

Thanks Alan. I am considering one for myself.

The buildings in Patsburg are not all that tall compared to the terrific ones some of you guys have.  The background buildings are all HO scale.  The trio of three story apartment building are by City Scenes, a vendor a York.  

Wow Alan you are fast, can you email me where you found the kit?

OGR CEO-PUBLISHER posted:

OK....JD inspired me to acquire one of the Uberarc sets that has enough pieces to construct the Empire State Building.  I made a few modifications so as to not duplicate the ESB exactly because my city is not modeling any particular metropolis....so....we will pretend that the firm of Shreve, Lamb, and Harmon who designed the EMB also did this similar structure for the First National Bank in my city...  It now joins the skyline and here are a few pictures:

Now that is cool. I guess the banks old building was small. With all the trains, commerce and such, no wonder they were able to get Speedy Construction Contractors to come through with all the right permits and get the building up in no time at all. @OGR CEO-PUBLISHER, I think you, me, and everyone else should stop in for a few withdraws, lol.