The 2018 Lionel Catalog is here! What are you ordering?

The Spirit of the Union Pacific METCA Exclusive locomotive and matching box car.  OK, it's not in the catalog, but I asked.  It will be announced in a few days.

Stu

Im glad I read some details!  Now it says you can run anything bluetooth with the LC universal remote since the LC and LC engines are on bluetooth channels already!  So this opens up Legacy engines to run like LC+.  You can get some of the high quality and cool features without buying a control system!

Jim

Oh and my wife will love the Peanuts boxcars!   I like them too!  Not much offered for Southern.. 

Not a thing. Very disappointed in what is available and the prices are out of control!! Is anyone ever going to make CNJ rolling stock again?

Maybe one or two Rutland PS-1 box cars and still wondering why I can't get a Rutland caboose

Loony Tunes!!  

I was going to order any new American Freedom Train cars listed, but there are none.  Getting worried they may not make any more.  If they don't make at least the two showcase cars, the set is worthless to me.  However, my Weaver H10 will get a stable mate when I get Lionel's.  Not sure which version yet, but no cars.

Hesitant to order ANYTHING until we see a quality improvement and Lionel steps up with a fix to "Ol' Shakey" aka the Legacy Mogul.....

Link to catalog here

I guess the title of the thread "What are you ordering" is lost on some. Maybe someone should start a thread "What are you going to gripe about".

Not much this time. The new IVR2 to play with. An universal sensor platform. Most likely a PRR Copula cam. If the 2-6-6-2s has Pittsburgh and West Virginia I would have been in trouble. 

A much better looking catalog to say the least. I'm sure I'll find 1 or 2 more things. Love all the new sets especially the Super Chief. 

Although in the post-acquisition, disposition phase of model railroading, may be unable to resist ordering the 6-85076 UP wide vision caboose with Cupolacam (TM).  "Alexa, show the Lionel Cupolacam on the big screen in the den."

Note to Lionel:  Make one in Espee livery.

Biggest question for me:

The H10 - listed as having Whistle steam. Small blurb on the separate sale units as ALSO having the swinging bell but not mentioned anywhere else.

So....does it have BOTH the smoking whistle and swinging bell? Bueller......Bueller.......Bueller...........

Seems like more repeated items than usual. Not much for me. I’ll probably order the Nickel Plate LC+ NW-2, a NKP Hopper (LionScale) and the wide vision Great Northern Caboose. That’s all I see. 

Getting jaded and overstuffed with trains in my old age, I guess...

Interesting  that Lionel combined all of its catalogs into one volume this year. 

Lionel has updated the P.E. lettering so it's now below the windows for all scales of their P.E. line. Also, have reissued some of their previous traditional O scale P.E. cars giving them snowy roofs and colored window silhouettes to match their most recent P.E. Bluetooth set.
The camera mounted cupola caboose cars look interesting, too.

A quick skim through...

The only item on my possible buy list is the L&N RPO car.

Probably nothing, but I like that PRR H10 set

I like the new H10, but I won't be buying any of the rolling stock. The are continuing to use the new plastic truck design with thumbtack couplers. Makes my purchases a lot easier.

Don't think I'll be ordering anything this time around.  Boy, have prices gone up.

MartyE posted:

If the 2-6-6-2s has Pittsburgh and West Virginia I would have been in trouble.

I am surprised they aren't doing the C&O 1309.  If they had, I'd be in that same kind of trouble...

I'm in for the H10 coal hauler set and a bunch of other things that I will have to think about.

Andy

If I grab something new, it'll probably be the PRR Disconnect Work Cars (4 pk; 6-85378) to go along with my BEEF Mini's or my sons LC Pennsy 0-8-0.

STEAM:

• Vision Line Niagara #6005 (And possibly #6001)
• Pennsylvania Coal Hauler Set
• A&WP #290

DIESEL:

• UP Yellow SW7
• NYSW SD45
• N&W SD45?
• ATSF SD45
• Wisconsin Central SD45?
• UP Spirit of Union Pacific SD70ACe
• Norfolk Southern SD70ACe #1030
• UP Yellow SD70ACe 8650?

FREIGHT:

• Southern Auto Racks
• CSX Auto Racks
• NS Auto Racks
• UTLX Tank Car w/Sounds
• GATX Tank Car w/Sounds
• Spirit of Union Pacific LED Boxcar
• Union Pacific Steam Program LED Boxcar
• Reading & Northern N5 Caboose
• Norfolk Southern Wide Vision Caboose with Camera?

PASSENGER:

• L&N Scale RPO Car #1099
• PRR Scale RPO Car #5269?
• Vision Line NYC Baggage Car

The H10 Consolidation sounds like something for me. I'm not the biggest Pennsy fan, but at $750 MSRP, that's really sweet.

Maybe the Lehigh Valley SW7 or Susie-Q SD45. Tempting being a Jersey guy. The latter is even priced $50 less than the first run of SD45's.

If I was loaded, I'd definitely get the Niagara. The NYC passenger cars look very tempting though...

Niagara 6013

Reading & Northern 425

I will probably pre-order a Pennsy H10, not sure which number yet. A note to those complaining about high prices the H10 lists for $750. in the 2015 MTH catalog they had H10s list price $900 and no steam whistle. I am sure I can find a dealer to give me a 20% discount which brings the price down to $600. Not bad with a steam whistle and possibly a swinging bell however I think the swinging bell is a typo. That's a small boiler on the H10 how can all that fit.

I will also order the GLa Hopper Coal Goes to War 3 pack. Don't know about the Camera Caboose, I don't think the Pennsy had extended vision cabooses. Great idea and at $125 bucks list that is a great price. Plus on rolling stock I would look for 30% off.

Great Catalog even though it did not have a Legacy Pennsy T1 in it.

JohnB

I believe this is one of the best catalogs I have seen in a long time. I am from northeast PA so the LV SW7, the two D&H U33's, the two Susie Q SD45's (my NY obsession) and the PRR coal hauling set look very promising. The sound equipped tank cars and PRR baggage cars also look great.......No gripes about the offerings but the pricing is another issue.......tough to decide this time.  

Most likely the NYC SW7 and the Union Tank Car cylindrical hopper. The LC NYC A5 switcher might be a future possibility.

I like  the UP caboose with camera and the H10 steam with swinging bell.. Probably end up buying just the caboose. Not much else....

Joe 

I frequently feel like the kid looking at the goodies through a window. A nice effort by Lionel on the catalog but not a lot for me. As a confirmed conventional/PW guy I’m used to this. Really wish they’d offer more things in the PWC/CC series but I know that’s not likely to happen. Yes, there’s the Green PW-inspired Alco set but I already have that from 2017-V1!

The one thing I eventually might order is one of the LC+ FA AA sets. That New Haven livery looks great (another carry-over from last year).

I usually let a good week or two go by and then revisit a new catalog. Sometimes you spot things that get overlooked at first glance.

Lots of traditional military stuff to order...

Unknown Tomb walking, Desert Storm, Korean War and Vietnam War boxcars...

Will think about the UP "Spirit" series, engine, LED boxcar and caboose...

I am glad that they are doing the PE add-ons with the snow, NOT because I want them but because others do.  I hope to see folks selling off their old PE cars to get the new ones, and I need to complete our second set for my younger son, and perhaps the prices will drop on the used, plain-roofed ones  ;-)

The UP Support our troops diesel, Flag cars, the grey Niagara and a black Niagara.  Good book.

I missed the Vision passenger car. What does it do?

Maybe a couple Halloween items, but not much

That PRR H10 looks good to me.

Norm

An O scale MKT Autorack on TRAILER TRAIN flat car and a SOUTHERN Auto carrier. 

The CNW ore car 6-pack.

The DM&IR ore car 6-pack

Perhaps the CNW SD45 diesel loco. 

I might order a Great Northern U33C diesel loco and wide vision caboose.

Andrew

Already preordered the Niagara 6005! Can't wait! 

I'm very excited about this catalog.  I'll be getting a bunch of stuff.  I'm new to the hobby and have very little to start with.  Still deciding on additional accessories but at minimum I'll order the following:

SW7: Frisco 6-85025

GP9: Wabash Torpedo 6-84280

Anheuser-Busch Clydesdale LionChief Set 6-84754

Budweiser Bar & Grill 6-84794

Budweiser Reefer 6-85248

NW2: LionChief Plus MKT 6-85059

RS3: Peabody Short Line 6-84698

Hopper 6-pack: Peabody 6-84770

So what’s the going Street price on the Niagara?

jojofry posted:

So what’s the going Street price on the Niagara?

last I saw was 1705.00

I know this is a dumb question but which line of new Lionel Products, specifically engines etc. work with the older tubular track and transformer systems without changing anything? I asked the reps at the local train show and they had no idea. I know some don't work anymore with the older systems and layouts so I want to make sure.

Thanks

Joe L posted:

I know this is a dumb question but which line of new Lionel Products, specifically engines etc. work with the older tubular track and transformer systems without changing anything? I asked the reps at the local train show and they had no idea. I know some don't work anymore with the older systems and layouts so I want to make sure.

Thanks

technically anything O scale will work on the old tube rail track with old transformers.  Below are the points to note though:

1. some new stuff requires a large turning radius.  Make sure the diameter of your tube rail can handle

2. LionChief Engines only function from their remote.  that means you set your old transformer to full power and then run the train with the remote.  (LionChief Plus works with the transformer or its included remote)

many people often point out to have proper circuit protection to avoid damaging electrical components of new engines, as the old transformers don't protect against that type of issue the way new ones should.

jrmertz posted:

Joe L posted:

I know this is a dumb question but which line of new Lionel Products, specifically engines etc. work with the older tubular track and transformer systems without changing anything? I asked the reps at the local train show and they had no idea. I know some don't work anymore with the older systems and layouts so I want to make sure.

Thanks

technically anything O scale will work on the old tube rail track with old transformers.  Below are the points to note though:

1. some new stuff requires a large turning radius.  Make sure the diameter of your tube rail can handle

2. LionChief Engines only function from their remote.  that means you set your old transformer to full power and then run the train with the remote.  (LionChief Plus works with the transformer or its included remote)

 

many people often point out to have proper circuit protection to avoid damaging electrical components of new engines, as the old transformers don't protect against that type of issue the way new ones should.

Thanks for the info. Part 2 of the question then is, what is the difference between Lion Chief and Lion Chief Plus?

Joe L posted:

jrmertz posted:

Joe L posted:

I know this is a dumb question but which line of new Lionel Products, specifically engines etc. work with the older tubular track and transformer systems without changing anything? I asked the reps at the local train show and they had no idea. I know some don't work anymore with the older systems and layouts so I want to make sure.

Thanks

technically anything O scale will work on the old tube rail track with old transformers.  Below are the points to note though:

1. some new stuff requires a large turning radius.  Make sure the diameter of your tube rail can handle

2. LionChief Engines only function from their remote.  that means you set your old transformer to full power and then run the train with the remote.  (LionChief Plus works with the transformer or its included remote)

 

many people often point out to have proper circuit protection to avoid damaging electrical components of new engines, as the old transformers don't protect against that type of issue the way new ones should.

Thanks for the info. Part 2 of the question then is, what is the difference between Lion Chief and Lion Chief Plus?

Also what is Legacy Control?

Jagsandtrains: 

"Already preordered the Niagara 6005!"  

And I already pre-ordered the Pilot Niagara. So that's 2 Niagaras they've sold, for sure.

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I wish that they would tweak the tooling and offer a #5500 Niagara - the experimental one with the poppet valves. Visually the only notable differences were the air pumps on either side in the running boards (to make room for the valves in the pilot deck area) and a lack of visible piston valve gear (no eccentric, valve gear, hanger, etc). 

But, if they did, I'd be ordering another Niagara, and, whew. One of my brass Williams versions could be modified relatively easily (famous last words) to the 5500, though.

Possibly the Niagara.  Was looking forward to some vision line milk cars to go with it, but might try the baggage cars.  However, I'm a bit disappointed that the vision line baggage car will have those hideous buttons on the couplers.  I'm assuming these baggage cars will be plastic also, but it does not mention it.

Joe L posted:

Thanks for the info. Part 2 of the question then is, what is the difference between Lion Chief and Lion Chief Plus?

Also what is Legacy Control?

Lion Chief Plus will work without the remote, simple conventional raise and lower the voltage on a transformer handle.

Legacy is command control (wireless remote, control of more features than Lion Chief or Lion Chief Plus, requires command base and remote not included with engine purchase). 

These are defined in the front of the catalog (at least they have been - I didn't just re-confirm).  It's a good tutorial.

Dave45681 posted:

Joe L posted:

Thanks for the info. Part 2 of the question then is, what is the difference between Lion Chief and Lion Chief Plus?

Also what is Legacy Control?

Lion Chief Plus will work without the remote, simple conventional raise and lower the voltage on a transformer handle.

Legacy is command control (wireless remote, control of more features than Lion Chief or Lion Chief Plus, requires command base and remote not included with engine purchase). 

These are defined in the front of the catalog (at least they have been - I didn't just re-confirm).  It's a good tutorial.

Thanks for the info!

This Wi-Fi Camera Looks Like Fun 

Gary

B&O 2-6-6-4   

UP Steam Program LED Boxcar

UP Caboose/Camera

joker34 posted:

B&O 2-6-6-4   

For what it's worth, the B&O didn't have any 2-6-6-4s, and Lionel has only made the N&W Class A 2-6-6-4 anyway.

UP Steam Program LED Boxcar

UP Caboose/Camera

Thanks Hot Water, I'm aware they didn't have any that's why I'm not so excited about it. Well the only pictures I can find of B&O 2-6-6-4 are KB-1. They looked a little different than this. But on the other hand Lionel doesn't like to make B&O steam very often. 

Didn't see anything of interest to buy in the big book.

I hope MTH doesn't copy what Lionel has shown.

The catalog is certainly fun to look at but for the most part stuff is too expensive. There must be quite a mark up because over the next year we will be seeing substantial discounts (at least I hope). If Lionel was serious about attracting youngsters into the hobby they would sell stuff like the Harry Potter set or the Polar express set and accessories for more reasonable prices. Just my two  cents.

Jefny

Since I love starter sets and passenger line stuff, and I'm a New Yorker, the LIRR set is a must, as well as the Santa Fe. 

It's also cool that the horse car and corral are back. It makes me want that 5 Star General set!

I agree with Gary--the video caboose looks fun, as well as a few LC+ engines. 

If I ran the circus,  they'd make these starter sets 027 compatible, and put out an optional LC+ engine for all the starter sets, but I'm still happy with what is there! Nice, Lionel!

I noticed a CAB1L  that can now be used with any Legacy controller. Good deal.

THE H10 should have a step pilot on it .ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS MISSING SOMETHING ON THE PILOT

romiller49 posted:

I noticed a CAB1L  that can now be used with any Legacy controller. Good deal.

It always could be used with a Legacy Base or Base 1L. 

I might order a Ferromex Autorack.

Andrew

A medium sausage and pepperoni well done.

Black Niagara, Gray Niagara, NYC URSA 2-6-6--2, NYC SW7,NYC disconnect set, NYC Vision Baggage car and the three trolleys. A Bunch of sensor track kits.Do I see a theme here. I'll keep working!

Everything there is to offer that's RDG or R&N. I've been saving up and praying for a legacy 425 and even though it's way overpcoed in getting it anyway.

Nothing...........

Hats of to Lionel,  they put a lot in that catalog to attract new customers, young and old.

And once again HO.

I did like the cupola camera caboose, though.

The UP camera car for sure, probably the lion chief plus, steam switcher in SP.  Those Niagras look so cool, luckily I do not model NYC. 

Probably nothing...Where are the 21' Passenger cars to go with the Chessie Steam Special from last year?

Nothing for me at this time. I would like the H-10 PRR freight set and a set of Berwin GLA hoppers. But the prices are higher than I can afford right now. I’ll probably end up with a 6-Pack of B&LE hoppers when they come out. Hopefully I can pick up the others in future years. 

Bruk posted:

Probably nothing...Where are the 21' Passenger cars to go with the Chessie Steam Special from last year?

No UP Excursion set either, but a new UP passenger set listed in the '18 catalog.  I had to laugh at THAT!

We've only  been waiting two years...

Excellent catalog, so much to choose from

MY LIST

VL Niagara 

NYC passenger cars

UP camera caboose

UP Flag box car

Alex

Is the Niagara really O54?  If so maybe I will.... 

Scrapiron Scher posted:

I missed the Vision passenger car. What does it do?

Here Eliot 

Vision Line Niagara

UP camera caboose

UP Flag box car

Sound Fright Cars

Sound Baggage Car

New LCS devices

and more!!

The Montana Rail Link SD45 and caboose.  Super excited that Lionel is making some MRL stuff.  Nice job Lionel!

I would say the catalogue was very disappointing overall.  Some of the O Scale engines are worthy of consideration, but until Lionel resumes installing their former best of class die-cast sprung couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs on their scale freight and passenger cars, I have exactly zero interest in buying any of them.

RON SOHN posted:

THE H10 should have a step pilot on it .ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS MISSING SOMETHING ON THE PILOT

It doesn't look as hefty as an H10 should. The MTH H10 has some bulk to it. Maybe it's just the catalog photo that doesn't do it justice ?

What I don't understand is why they don't make more of popular releases? I doubt if Lionel gives a rip about collectability value, they just want to sell.

It would be interesting to know who they listen to when compiling a list to put out. For the most part, I think people just think it is a big yawn.

I'll be ordering the BN caboose with the video camera. Very cool idea at a nice price. Will also grab a 30k GATX tank car. 

Niagara 6023

Well,

The first thing I saw was Muffins email and H10 hit me right between the eyes. OMG!! Finally an NYC H10 Mikado! Any NYC fan knows that H10 and NYC Mikado are mutually inclusive terms.

I started scroll down Muffins site and pre order one right then and there.  But wait, lets look at the catalog, since I am in a buying mood maybe I will see something else to order.

The Lionel page could not load fast enough. Finally the catalog opens up. There is the Niagara, - I'm happy with the CCII version, I keep clicking, got to see that NYC H10 Mikado!!!

I clicked the mouse a couple more times and OH NO, IT'S A PENNSY H10 CONSILIDATION BUMMMMMMER!!

Oh well, I will have to wait until I get a hard copy of the new Lionel Catalog. Maybe a freight car or two.  

The price of the 2 6 6 2 caught my eye. Do you remember when they had a hard time dumping the TMCC version years ago or $700?

I made a pledge that the Pennsy VL GG1 would be my last big engine purchase. Well I can keep my promise until the next catalog comes out.

Thanks,

Richard

There are no add on cars that I saw for the prewar inspired S-2 set so nothing for me. 

I was impressed ar their use of the old Flyer station to make a L shaped hospital.

steve

Only have about $100.00 to spend so I will have to settle for a bottle of smoke fluid.

Chris Sheldon

This is an excellent catalog ... a real tour de force of just about everything.

Ordering?  

All the SP trains.  The new Hallowe'en trains/cars.  Two camera cabooses.

That's just the first five-minute glance.  More.  Later.

On my wish list & hope to order:

Niagra #6023

Vision Baggage Car

NYC RPO

The two 2-Car Baggage sets w/the stripe, & hopefully the grey w/out stripe as well.   The older looking green ones, probably not so much.

NYC SW7 - Really need a small, late transition-era diesel switcher for the (future) layout.

W&LE 2-6-6-2 Mallet #2007 - Would love to add this one, but may not be room in the budget to pre-order.  

Nothing in the catalog really grabbed my attention except for the LionScale Western Maryland hoppers. Really like the patchwork details.

I liked the SP 2 6 6 2 Steamer until I did some research and lo and behold SP never had any of those on their rails and I dont buy fantasy engines.Why not make real prototypical engines.

Mikey

Mikey,

They did exist.

But I think there were only 2 engines (not 3932) and the Vanderbilt tender was a 6 wheel truck tender. The tender just looks too small on Lionel's version. I am sure there are other things but I am still researching and thinking about it. I think they were bought second hand during WW2 and lasted into the early 50's.

Here is a link 

http://espee.railfan.net/sp_steam_mm-03.html

Joe

A few things caught my eye but not going to order anything.

The pricing on some freight cars are really high. Any car with a msrp of a $100 or more gets scratched off my list immediately. Yea I know street price will be lower but for me not low enough. 

Dave

I wish they made their diesels in dummy still... would be a could I would order in that case...

mikey posted:

I liked the SP 2 6 6 2 Steamer until I did some research and lo and behold SP never had any of those on their rails and I dont buy fantasy engines.Why not make real prototypical engines.

Mikey

I always vacillate on this.  But, then, I'm comfortable with the product 'cause they run on THREE rails.

MartyE posted:

romiller49 posted:

I noticed a CAB1L  that can now be used with any Legacy controller. Good deal.

It always could be used with a Legacy Base or Base 1L. 

Marty, I’ll take your word on that. Past York I was going to buy one but Ryan from Lionel said it only worked with cab1 base and I needed the expansion set for the extra cab. 

romiller49 posted:

MartyE posted:

romiller49 posted:

I noticed a CAB1L  that can now be used with any Legacy controller. Good deal.

It always could be used with a Legacy Base or Base 1L. 

Marty, I’ll take your word on that. Past York I was going to buy one but Ryan from Lionel said it only worked with cab1 base and I needed the expansion set for the extra cab. 

Rod

Maybe he misunderstood what you were asking.  Below is the outline.

Cab1L works with a Base 1L and Legacy Base.

Cab2 works only with a Legacy Base.  (No database to connect to in a Base1L)

But no worries the Cab1L will work with a Legacy Base just fine.  You're safe to purchase one.

Here is the manual for your reading enjoyment...Just need to make sure the Cab1L is on the same channel as your Legacy Base.

nothing!!

Richard Gonzales posted:

Well,

The first thing I saw was Muffins email and H10 hit me right between the eyes. OMG!! Finally an NYC H10 Mikado! Any NYC fan knows that H10 and NYC Mikado are mutually inclusive terms.

I started scroll down Muffins site and pre order one right then and there.  But wait, lets look at the catalog, since I am in a buying mood maybe I will see something else to order.

The Lionel page could not load fast enough. Finally the catalog opens up. There is the Niagara, - I'm happy with the CCII version, I keep clicking, got to see that NYC H10 Mikado!!!

I clicked the mouse a couple more times and OH NO, IT'S A PENNSY H10 CONSILIDATION BUMMMMMMER!!

Oh well, I will have to wait until I get a hard copy of the new Lionel Catalog. Maybe a freight car or two.  

The price of the 2 6 6 2 caught my eye. Do you remember when they had a hard time dumping the TMCC version years ago or $700?

I made a pledge that the Pennsy VL GG1 would be my last big engine purchase. Well I can keep my promise until the next catalog comes out.

Thanks,

Richard

Lionel released the 2-6-6-2 with Legacy a few years back I think it was 2012. They ended up blowing them out. I bought 2 or 3 right around $700. I do not see paying $900 more for a different road number. 

After quickly looking through the new catalog I think it is one of the best so far with so many offerings. And so far I ordered the TH&B GP7's..... both numbers and the scale auto racks. Now I will take my time to look at everything to see what else..............Paul

I like this catalog.  They did not go overboard with tons of stuff that will take forever to make.  They have a nice selection of a vision line item, steam and diesel and pop in a few new items like the cabooses with cameras.

I don't have a Niagara and this one looks really nice with the steam features so I'm going to go for this one and the cam cabooses.  

Very disappointed in the comical artwork on the Christmas 2018 boxcar.  As unsightly as the 2015 artwork.  Amazing how it's either "home run" or "strikeout", never in between.  The artwork on the Lionscale 3-bay hopper should have been the boxcar artwork.

 Also, I wish they would have made the Santa Fe Super Chief as Lion Chief+ rather than plain Lion Chief. 

Likewise they need to make a Lion Chief+ Polar Express.   Fixed voltage track isn't going to cut it for me.

Great catalog.  Tons of interesting stuff.  Price increases much smaller than I was expecting.

Love those 6-packs of Ore Cars.  What a FANTASTIC price.  They'll be coming to live with me.

Stu

And for my final gripe, no Alaska or Long Island freight, unless I somehow missed something.

So in summary, a beautifully presented catalogue with lots for most, nothing for me.  There's always 2019.

BwanaBob posted:

Very disappointed in the comical artwork on the Christmas 2018 boxcar.  As unsightly as the 2015 artwork.  Amazing how it's either "home run" or "strikeout", never in between.  The artwork on the Lionscale 3-bay hopper should have been the boxcar artwork.

 Also, I wish they would have made the Santa Fe Super Chief as Lion Chief+ rather than plain Lion Chief. 

Likewise they need to make a Lion Chief+ Polar Express.   Fixed voltage track isn't going to cut it for me.

I agree with the Super Chief being LC+.  They have this set listed less than they want for the LC+ engine.  My layout is small enough that a B unit isn't needed.  I'm interested in just the engine...but not at $500+

superwarp1 posted:

Maybe one or two Rutland PS-1 box cars and still wondering why I can't get a Rutland caboose

I asked Lionel that right after they announced the 2-6-0, and they don't have the tooling for their cabooses...and they told me to ask MTH. When I reminded him that they made it in the late 80's or so, he said he wouldn't know where the tooling is...

I really like that boxcar in the H-10 set (and the H-10 itself), but I can't afford the set right now.

I also like the camera cabooses. I really wish it was in a Northeastern caboose. 

I liked the little single-truck work trains and the hospital!

CarGuyZM10 posted:

superwarp1 posted:

Maybe one or two Rutland PS-1 box cars and still wondering why I can't get a Rutland caboose

I asked Lionel that right after they announced the 2-6-0, and they don't have the tooling for their cabooses...and they told me to ask MTH. When I reminded him that they made it in the late 80's or so, he said he wouldn't know where the tooling is...

Weaver also made a Rutland caboose in the “Northeastern” style. It’s a pretty nice one, but the roller pick ups are small and are bad about falling between the rails of  Ross switches, causing a short.

 Thanks 

Richard 

I am still looking but the for sure's are the VL Niagara, all the NYC cars, the Coal Hauler H10 set, and maybe a few things more. I have to get a little more time to read, always get star struck one what stuff looks like and read just a bit. I do love the extensive passenger car selection and I do feel the next catalog will expand more on them. Now just the waiting. I think we have the cutoff somewhere in March to put our orders in.

Mark Mcclung posted:

Richard Gonzales posted:

The price of the 2 6 6 2 caught my eye. Do you remember when they had a hard time dumping the TMCC version years ago or $700?

I made a pledge that the Pennsy VL GG1 would be my last big engine purchase. Well I can keep my promise until the next catalog comes out.

Thanks,

Richard

Lionel released the 2-6-6-2 with Legacy a few years back I think it was 2012. They ended up blowing them out. I bought 2 or 3 right around $700. I do see paying $900 more for a different road number. 

I won't dispute the blowout. However, when these locos were first offered back in 2001 MSRP was $1399.95.

17 years later a $200 MSRP increase seems more reasonable than say.. the $400 increase of the K4 in 5 years because of a tender change.

With the past blowout, this one might be betetr to wait and see verus preordering..

chinatrain99 posted:

BwanaBob posted:

 Also, I wish they would have made the Santa Fe Super Chief as Lion Chief+ rather than plain Lion Chief. 

Likewise they need to make a Lion Chief+ Polar Express.   Fixed voltage track isn't going to cut it for me.

I agree with the Super Chief being LC+.  They have this set listed less than they want for the LC+ engine.  My layout is small enough that a B unit isn't needed.  I'm interested in just the engine...but not at $500+

Yes, I think I’ve already posted about this but will weigh in again.

Really like to see Lionel put out some Lion Chief Plus Sets. The Santa Fe set immediately caught my eye but lost interest when I saw that it was plain vanilla LC.

C’mon Lionel! Let’s see LC+ Sets!

A few things I want, but probably won't order any. The Cabooses  with the camera look  interesting, would love to be able to get a vision line Niagara, or any vision line engine someday, but I don't think that will ever happen.

Would also like to get the at least one Auto-rack, the tank car with freight sounds would be nice as well.

All in all a lot of things I would like, but will probably never get. 

Nothing.  I'm ordering from the post-war catalog.....LOL

Blue Streak posted:

Mikey,

They did exist.

But I think there were only 2 engines (not 3932) and the Vanderbilt tender was a 6 wheel truck tender. The tender just looks too small on Lionel's version. I am sure there are other things but I am still researching and thinking about it. I think they were bought second hand during WW2 and lasted into the early 50's.

Here is a link 

http://espee.railfan.net/sp_steam_mm-03.html

Joe

Hi Blue Streak

Thanks for the info,being that were only two of those Lochs,I am going to pass,I dont know why they have never done the 4 6 2 P 1 thru P 14 Pacifics,I think that they would sell well.

Mikey

mikey posted:

Hi Blue Streak

Thanks for the info,being that were only two of those Lochs,I am going to pass,I dont know why they have never done the 4 6 2 P 1 thru P 14 Pacifics,I think that they would sell well.

Mikey

Although Lionel has never produced CORRECT models of Southern Pacific "P Class" Pacifics, Sunset/3rd Rail sure did, and they are beautiful.

MartyE posted:

romiller49 posted:

MartyE posted:

romiller49 posted:

I noticed a CAB1L  that can now be used with any Legacy controller. Good deal.

It always could be used with a Legacy Base or Base 1L. 

Marty, I’ll take your word on that. Past York I was going to buy one but Ryan from Lionel said it only worked with cab1 base and I needed the expansion set for the extra cab. 

Rod

Maybe he misunderstood what you were asking.  Below is the outline.

Cab1L works with a Base 1L and Legacy Base.

Cab2 works only with a Legacy Base.  (No database to connect to in a Base1L)

But no worries the Cab1L will work with a Legacy Base just fine.  You're safe to purchase one.

Here is the manual for your reading enjoyment...Just need to make sure the Cab1L is on the same channel as your Legacy Base.

Thanks Marty. 

A few things caught my eye...

Shorty Disconnect Work Train

Oil Pump "nodding donkey"

Peanuts Box Car

johnstrains posted:

chinatrain99 posted:

BwanaBob posted:

 Also, I wish they would have made the Santa Fe Super Chief as Lion Chief+ rather than plain Lion Chief. 

Likewise they need to make a Lion Chief+ Polar Express.   Fixed voltage track isn't going to cut it for me.

I agree with the Super Chief being LC+.  They have this set listed less than they want for the LC+ engine.  My layout is small enough that a B unit isn't needed.  I'm interested in just the engine...but not at $500+

Yes, I think I’ve already posted about this but will weigh in again.

Really like to see Lionel put out some Lion Chief Plus Sets. The Santa Fe set immediately caught my eye but lost interest when I saw that it was plain vanilla LC.

C’mon Lionel! Let’s see LC+ Sets!

I would think a viable alternative to LC+ sets might be to sell LC+ engines that match the sets. They already will have tooled up the shells, it would seem to be no big deal to make the LC+ insides as well. That way, if you want to upgrade your engine it would be available to you. So, one year after the starter set, the next year offer the upgraded loco. 

Or, offer a choice: a lower priced LC set or an upgraded complete LC+ set. I'm hoping we see one of these soon.

I think that this is a great catalog and a number of things to fill out my collection including the flag cars, cam cupola caboose, RPO cars, and possibly a Niagra (although the jury is still out).  

The one thing that caught my eye that I couldn’t understand (and not in a griping way but more of ‘perhaps I’ve missed something’ way)...  Why the $400 price tag on the 2 packs of heavyweights?  Have they changed in some way?  Weren’t the four packs around $450?  Now escalated to $200 (say $175 street price) per car?  Seems steep without changes...  just curious...

RickO posted:

Mark Mcclung posted:

Richard Gonzales posted:

The price of the 2 6 6 2 caught my eye. Do you remember when they had a hard time dumping the TMCC version years ago or $700?

I made a pledge that the Pennsy VL GG1 would be my last big engine purchase. Well I can keep my promise until the next catalog comes out.

Thanks,

Richard

Lionel released the 2-6-6-2 with Legacy a few years back I think it was 2012. They ended up blowing them out. I bought 2 or 3 right around $700. I do see paying $900 more for a different road number. 

I won't dispute the blowout. However, when these locos were first offered back in 2001 MSRP was $1399.95.

17 years later a $200 MSRP increase seems more reasonable than say.. the $400 increase of the K4 in 5 years because of a tender change.

With the past blowout, this one might be betetr to wait and see verus preordering..

Good point, but the 2 6 6 2 wasn’t worth $1,399 then, and it’s not now.

i picked up my  NKP TMCC  version  when they were blown out the first time.

 Thanks 

Richard

pdxtrains posted:

 

I would think a viable alternative to LC+ sets might be to sell LC+ engines that match the sets. They already will have tooled up the shells, it would seem to be no big deal to make the LC+ insides as well. That way, if you want to upgrade your engine it would be available to you. So, one year after the starter set, the next year offer the upgraded loco. 

Or, offer a choice: a lower priced LC set or an upgraded complete LC+ set. I'm hoping we see one of these soon.

Agreed.

Also it occurred to me after I posted earlier that Lionel did do matching passenger cars for some of the first LC+ steamers (may have been the Pacifics?). Not true sets, per se, but they did present them in the catalog as items that could be paired up.

Looks like I picked the right year to start building a yellow PRR MOW train! I will definitely be in for the yellow gla 3 pack!

Also considering the Coal goes to war 3 pack, but might skip cus i was planning on picking up the atlas h21 hoppers that were recently announced... or i might just oder them all.

The PRR and LIRR RPO cars are also both on my radar, ive been buying a lot of head end equipment lately and i think i can use a few more.

A 30k Gal tank car with sounds will also be finding its way into my modern freight consist for sure!

I like the WIFI camera cabooses, Santa Fe and maybe UP. I think the Lionel camera should be decent quality as mini cameras are not expensive.  I have been using several drone mini wifi cameras on my trains. You can get a Droneview wifi camera for $40 which has very good wifi picture with recording capability. I hope Lionel adds cameras to some dummy engines in the future. Then you could get engineer view on track ahead. 

I will pass on the sound tank cars until I hear quality of the sound. I have the Vision Ethanol and Vision Reefer ,which are great. I have the 2017 PS-1 sound boxcars, not so great. 

Maybe a KCS SD70ace to go with my KCS SD70mac

I looked through every page of the new catalog and its great for the true deep pockets O scale operator but that is a narrow niche. The O gauge toy stuff reminds me of when Lionel tried to broaden the offering in the 1960's with all kinds of odd stuff.  Sadly I didn't find much for what I am doing here.  IMO this offering is of a company in trouble.

RickO posted:

...

With the past blowout, this one might be betetr to wait and see verus preordering..

Unless somebody is REALLY looking for a specific locomotive roadname, it's ALWAYS better to wait vs. pre-ordering.  The 15% discount sales (sometimes with free shipping) are often MUCH better than the best pre-order prices.  And I'm not talking about the MAP pre-order prices either... I'm talking about the lower pre-order prices that go unadvertised.  It's still better to wait things out.  For example, I can't recall ANY dealer who offered Lionel's S2 Tinplate Prewar Inspired train set at $725.  But that was the set's price during a New Year's Day sale just a couple of weeks after the sets hit dealer shelves in December.

David

"B&O 2-6-6-4"   

"Thanks Hot Water, I'm aware they didn't have any that's why I'm not so excited about it. Well the only pictures I can find of B&O 2-6-6-4 are KB-1. They looked a little different than this. But on the other hand Lionel doesn't like to make B&O steam very often." 

Lionel's is not a 2-6-6-4; it is a 2-6-6-2. Indeed, these locos are the USRA 2-6-6-2, modifed a bit here and there.

All prototypical cars.  

Elmer Fudd & Bugs Bunny car.

Witches brew  tank car “Salem Massachusetts” 

American Flyer aquarium car. 

Great catalog!   Amazing back to HO with magnetic track.   Interesting to see how that plays out.   I would have thought metal handrails and smoke in the HO locos (higher price point of course).   I may have to order a set just to play with.   Looks like Kadee style couplers, noting the brake line uncouplers.

I like the camera cabeese.   

Interesting that they came up with a Tier-4 loco (BNSF!) LionChief, but I note the "sturdy stamped metal handrails" that cut though the body near the cab.   Looks like a great price, I will likely pre-order this set even with its train-set quality.   No remote uncoupler on the loco.

Pretty impressive set of choices, and scales.   What, do you think On30 from Lionel with LC and sound will be in the future using the new HO track?   Well, I won't hold my breath.

I placed a pre-order today with TrainWorld for the Tier-4 BNSF set.   I have six LC+ locos, this will be my first LC loco.   I decided to give it a try in order to have a modern LC diesel loco, I hope that I don't regret this decision.   I also have the new LC+ SD-60M which is a great locomotive, and the LC+ Berkshire.   Delivery is not until end of this year (2018), so perhaps into 2019.   BTW I used the AP to set the sounds on my two recent LC+ locos, but generally just run them with my Universal Remote, with 3 trains running on my small 4X12 layout.

I've ordered the PRSL caboose. After I've asked for one for awhile, I figured I'd better put my money where my yearning is. Now, I'll wait for some PRSL diesels.

Possibly the Pennsy LionChief A5 with Bluetooth, but I'm wondering if it might be worth saving a little bit and getting the older version without it.

Nothing, I have more stuff then I can ever run, time to thin the herd big time.

Niagara 6005 and perhaps 6013

Maybe UP and NS SD70ACE

As a Wisconsin resident with a Wisconsin themed roster/collection/interest in trains, I will definitely be ordering the Wisconsin Central SD45 with kinematic pilots.

I will also order a Milwaukee Road GP-9 torpedo.  Always a Milwaukee fanatic.

As for rolling stock....

Tank car with freight sounds,

Flag car (UP steam program).  These really look really nice.

This is a really good catalog 

pdxtrains posted:

johnstrains posted:

chinatrain99 posted:

BwanaBob posted:

 Also, I wish they would have made the Santa Fe Super Chief as Lion Chief+ rather than plain Lion Chief. 

Likewise they need to make a Lion Chief+ Polar Express.   Fixed voltage track isn't going to cut it for me.

I agree with the Super Chief being LC+.  They have this set listed less than they want for the LC+ engine.  My layout is small enough that a B unit isn't needed.  I'm interested in just the engine...but not at $500+

Yes, I think I’ve already posted about this but will weigh in again.

Really like to see Lionel put out some Lion Chief Plus Sets. The Santa Fe set immediately caught my eye but lost interest when I saw that it was plain vanilla LC.

C’mon Lionel! Let’s see LC+ Sets!

I would think a viable alternative to LC+ sets might be to sell LC+ engines that match the sets. They already will have tooled up the shells, it would seem to be no big deal to make the LC+ insides as well. That way, if you want to upgrade your engine it would be available to you. So, one year after the starter set, the next year offer the upgraded loco. 

Or, offer a choice: a lower priced LC set or an upgraded complete LC+ set. I'm hoping we see one of these soon.

That wouldn't work for me.  I want no part of "fixed voltage" setups so I feel that it would be a waste of money to buy a plain LC set in hopes of getting an engine upgrade.  Obviously I'm totally unaware of the cost differential to Lionel, but I would have hoped that all LC material would have been LC+ from the get go; giving all buyer the versatility from the start.  

A NS or UP SD70ACE or two may be coming my way....

Don't know. Will spend the next month or so figuring out a few things to purchase.  Nice, very diverse catalog.  Happy to see the S gaugers/American Flyer folks got some nice choices, and that LC and LC+ are doing well, as these are by far the most affordable and value priced items in the hobby to my way of thinking.  Almost all the important functionality at a significantly lower price, affordable to many more people than the high end stuff.  Not that the high end stuff is being ignored, mind you.  I'm somewhat amazed that there is still enough market to support any new tooling for high end steamers and diesels at this point in history.

That NYC SW7 is calling my name 😎

I know they've been around a bit, but I've got the LC+ LL Berkshire coming my way, along with some fast track accessories and some more power to handle some layout expanding I'd like to do. I am running 036 right now so I had to rule out my passenger car wishes, but I am really thirsty for a Cammed Caboose (no pun intended). I am just starting my collection now that I am on my own, so you could say I am very much buying into 'fixed voltage', which I was concerned about at first but Lionel seems very committed to releasing engines on Bluetooth so really there is very little I couldn't run at whatever price point sacrifice say a quilling whistle, which really isn't a major downside for me.

I was happy to see not one but to O36 friendly steamers.  I want a Prairie, but I don't care for any of the roads listed, and I'm kind of done buying roads I don't want just to get the locomotive I do want.  So I think I'll pass on this catalog sadly, unless there is a caboose I want.  That and I need to get my car serviced, and probably buy a new AC unit for my house.  The trains can't keep my house cool when it's 110+ outside.

angrytoothbrush posted:

I know they've been around a bit, but I've got the LC+ LL Berkshire coming my way, along with some fast track accessories and some more power to handle some layout expanding I'd like to do.  price point sacrifice say a quilling whistle, which really isn't a major downside for me.

Excellent choice!

By all accounts, that LC+ Berk is a real winner. Maybe the best LC+ loco produced yet. I know the videos that were posted here (from those who ordered it from the 2017 catalog) were very impressive.

Probably the SD70Aces, U33's and SD45's

The orange FasTrack.  Definitely the orange FasTrack.

Pete

johnstrains posted:

angrytoothbrush posted:

I know they've been around a bit, but I've got the LC+ LL Berkshire coming my way, along with some fast track accessories and some more power to handle some layout expanding I'd like to do.  price point sacrifice say a quilling whistle, which really isn't a major downside for me.

Excellent choice!

By all accounts, that LC+ Berk is a real winner. Maybe the best LC+ loco produced yet. I know the videos that were posted here (from those who ordered it from the 2017 catalog) were very impressive.

I have the Nickel Plate version and love it!

I was pretty happy to see the new Legacy SD45 paint schemes and was all set to order both of the two New York Susquehanna & Western SD45s until I saw they have the exact same cab numbers that MTH offered their NYS&W Railking Scale SD45 powered and dummy units back in 2003.  Since I already have those I'll be passing on the new ones.  Seriously, the NYS&W had like a dozen of these SD45's and Lionel couldn't use different cab numbers than what was already in the marketplace?  They lost what would have been at least one definite sale here. 

May go with the Niagara (fantasy 6001)  if I decide to sell the Vision Genset, MTH S2's (2), NYC Dryfus to pay for it.

Dave Warburton posted:

johnstrains posted:

angrytoothbrush posted:

I know they've been around a bit, but I've got the LC+ LL Berkshire coming my way, along with some fast track accessories and some more power to handle some layout expanding I'd like to do.  price point sacrifice say a quilling whistle, which really isn't a major downside for me.

Excellent choice!

By all accounts, that LC+ Berk is a real winner. Maybe the best LC+ loco produced yet. I know the videos that were posted here (from those who ordered it from the 2017 catalog) were very impressive.

I have the Nickel Plate version and love it!

My Lionel Lines Berkshire arrived today, gave it a 1 hour workout pulling 6 cars on a 054 layout.  Beautiful engine, a real smoker. I like the fact I can turn off the sound switch and the horn bell still sing out.  On the Bluetooth app you can change the sound pitch oh the horn & bell. I did that on my KATY Mikado. 

Each, Year the product gets more appealing. But, the prices have finally hit that point.  The lack of new accessories is another issue. The same old boring stuff. Geez, 

Considering Niagara 6005 - 6-84960

Vision NYC Baggage Car - 6-85343

NYC Baggage Car 2 Car Set - 6-85327

NYC Baggage / Combo - 6-85333

NYC Scale RPO - 6-85343

Tank Car with Freight Sounds and EOT device.

after that a divorce 

winrose46 posted:

May go with the Niagara (fantasy 6001)  if I decide to sell the Vision Genset, MTH S2's (2), NYC Dryfus to pay for it.

Gene, 

Send me an email if you've got anything to sell. 

Hope all is well, 

Matt Panagos

If I were modeling NYC, there is no doubt I’d saving for one of those Niagara’s. That is one majestic locomotive.

I really like the Niagara. I wish Lionel would follow history and be more accurate. Only one engine was built with the poppet valve, #5500 which is not even available from Lionel. They could have at least offered one that was accurate. After all the hype, a bit disappointing

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else so I'll ask it here.

On page 14 of the catalog, H10 steam locomotive 6-84949 is listed as Pennsylvania #8093 but what is depicted is Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines #6072.  A PRSL freight locomotive would be a logical complement to the new PRSL N5 cabin car (6-85300 on page 40), not to mention that there are already three other PRR H10's on pages 14-15; four if you include the H10 that comes with the set on pages 12-13. 

So which is it, PRR #8093 or PRSL #6072?

Rats, I can't get the catalog to load again. It probably will in a few days.

Can anyone tell me about the tank cars with sounds? I looked over this whole post and gather that there's a couple of sets of them? individual cars?

This is my favorite Lionel product and I am interested!

Engineer-Joe posted:

Rats, I can't get the catalog to load again. It probably will in a few days.

Can anyone tell me about the tank cars with sounds? I looked over this whole post and gather that there's a couple of sets of them? individual cars?

This is my favorite Lionel product and I am interested!

Click here

Gary

trainroomgary posted:

Engineer-Joe posted:

Rats, I can't get the catalog to load again. It probably will in a few days.

Can anyone tell me about the tank cars with sounds? I looked over this whole post and gather that there's a couple of sets of them? individual cars?

This is my favorite Lionel product and I am interested!

Click here

Gary

Thanks for the direct link!

When I click it, the load goes about 2/3s over and stalls. The last time I tried I left the room for awhile and it still never loaded.

Nuthin. Close but not cigar on the 2-6-6-2. Still waiting for someone, anyone to do a proper N&W Z1a.

Still can't get the catalog to load, and I have a new computer & a 50 mbps cable connection.

The same as the last catalog, nothing.  Prices are too high and I already have enough stuff to last a lifetime (which keeps getting shorter everyday).  The tech end is what keeps evolving and I really don't need the latest and greatest system of the day.

I will let you know in 2028 wen I can get the stuff off the secondary market for 25 cents on a dollar. Nick

After letting it soak in, I'm committed to the H10 Coal Set, B&O GP9 and maybe the Rutland Boxcar. I do want a Rutland boxcar but can't decide if I want the scale version or the Postwar (or both....)

I REALLY like the "what if" Century Limited Niagra but I already have 1 engine that requires 0-54 coming soon and don't want a collection of them sitting in boxes.

I somehow missed the sound tank cars in my 1st look.  Now that I know they are there, I'll probably get some.

Sound tank cars?  What do they sound like, chemicals splashing around in the tank?  Wow, I think I need to stop by a club and check this crazy stuff out.  I won't be buying any, but I have to say it does sound interesting.  I went retro and I guess it wouldn't actually be correct to say I never looked back because when I look at a prewar train that's what I am doing, looking back.  Cheers.

Jushavnfun posted:

Dave Warburton posted:

johnstrains posted:

angrytoothbrush posted:

I know they've been around a bit, but I've got the LC+ LL Berkshire coming my way, along with some fast track accessories and some more power to handle some layout expanding I'd like to do.  price point sacrifice say a quilling whistle, which really isn't a major downside for me.

Excellent choice!

By all accounts, that LC+ Berk is a real winner. Maybe the best LC+ loco produced yet. I know the videos that were posted here (from those who ordered it from the 2017 catalog) were very impressive.

I have the Nickel Plate version and love it!

My Lionel Lines Berkshire arrived today, gave it a 1 hour workout pulling 6 cars on a 054 layout.  Beautiful engine, a real smoker. I like the fact I can turn off the sound switch and the horn bell still sing out.  On the Bluetooth app you can change the sound pitch oh the horn & bell. I did that on my KATY Mikado. 

Glad you like it! I ordered mine Tuesday, and I think a power add on I got is holding up the whole order, I really hope to get my hands on it soon! Whats your opinion on how to smoke the unit out of the box, I see a lot of videos on priming the smoke unit but the consensus still at least seems to be less is more...??? I think my favorite bluetooth related feature is the momentum setting, I think most people enjoy simulating this by hand, but I can't tell you how many people not 100% familiar with trains grab a controller and instinctually crank the knob. That being said, in this regard I feel like the App could become limitless... After listening to one of Dave's videos he posted in here about running a Legacy unit off the bluetooth I am surprised why they feel they can't get all the sounds features to work via the app. The quilling whistle would be very easy to engage with the "pitch modifier" instead of just hitting the horn/whistle button(not mentioning just adding the slider separate in that same panel... like why not). Sure maybe you sacrifice customizing the whistle to your preference, but you gain the feature as it works with peoples Legacy remotes... 

PSU1980 posted:

Considering Niagara 6005 - 6-84960

Vision NYC Baggage Car - 6-85343

NYC Baggage Car 2 Car Set - 6-85327

NYC Baggage / Combo - 6-85333

NYC Scale RPO - 6-85343

Tank Car with Freight Sounds and EOT device.

after that a divorce 

Say, do you have a favorite railroad?

Engineer-Joe posted:

...  Can anyone tell me about the tank cars with sounds? I looked over this whole post and gather that there's a couple of sets of them? individual cars?

...

When i first saw these, i thought... Yes!!! Lionel finally listened.  But then I heard these are NOT gonna be a re-run of the VisionLine cars from years ago.  Instead they'll be like the PS-1 boxcars with FreightSounds a couple of years ago.  And those weren't that great.  If this is true, I'll pass on these.  I guess we'll see what actually gets produced and go from there.  The catalog shows about 6 individual tankers with sounds -- all available separately.  No 3-packs or sets.  They match other 30K tankers produced recently.

David 

John Pignatelli JR. posted:

Nothing, I have more stuff then I can ever run, time to thin the herd big time.

I resemble that remark. Also thinning the herd.

SJC posted:

winrose46 posted:

May go with the Niagara (fantasy 6001)  if I decide to sell the Vision Genset, MTH S2's (2), NYC Dryfus to pay for it.

Gene, 

Send me an email if you've got anything to sell. 

Hope all is well, 

Matt Panagos

Matt, your profile did not include an email.  Send one to me.

Engineer-Joe posted:

trainroomgary posted:

Engineer-Joe posted:

Rats, I can't get the catalog to load again. It probably will in a few days.

Can anyone tell me about the tank cars with sounds? I looked over this whole post and gather that there's a couple of sets of them? individual cars?

This is my favorite Lionel product and I am interested!

Click here

Gary

Thanks for the direct link!

When I click it, the load goes about 2/3s over and stalls. The last time I tried I left the room for awhile and it still never loaded.

For those who are trying to load the catalog and it stalls, may I suggest trying a different browser. 

I'm looking at the SD45 in MRL, BN or GN U33, a few other things caught my eye, but $400 for GN heavyweights?! C'mon man!  OK, on a serious note, does anyone have an idea why these might be worth the price?  Lionel sometimes releases really nice items with limited descriptions and only after release does the realization of value become apparent.  Do these cars have superior detailing aka GGD or the recent Atlas, are they full of very realistic figures (yes they have figures), is the lettering 24 gold overlay (jk)?  Yes, I may be fishing for the right reason to buy.

Probably one of the Polar Express Coaches. I recently got the Lionchief Polar Express, AND IT’S AWESOME!!!! 😁😁🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

Gilly@N&W posted:

Nuthin. Close but not cigar on the 2-6-6-2. Still waiting for someone, anyone to do a proper N&W Z1a.

I think that is as close as we are going to get....I was annoyed that instead of putting the pumps on the side of the locomotive Lionel decided not to put them on at all.

Scott Smith

Most likely nothing,  maybe a tank car with frieght sounds, the water tower, maybe a house.  Nothing else. 

GN 2-6-6-2 and the NP 2-6-4; both KCS SD 70's and GN Madison passenger set.

After I hit the lottery I may consider buying something 

On my list of possibilities are a Southern SW7, N&W bicentenial SD45, and maybe a Chessie cam caboose.

winrose46 posted:

SJC posted:

winrose46 posted:

May go with the Niagara (fantasy 6001)  if I decide to sell the Vision Genset, MTH S2's (2), NYC Dryfus to pay for it.

Gene, 

Send me an email if you've got anything to sell. 

Hope all is well, 

Matt Panagos

Matt, your profile did not include an email.  Send one to me.

Done!

I placed a pre-order today with TrainWorld for the Tier-4 BNSF set.   I have six LC+ locos, this will be my first LC loco.   I decided to give it a try in order to have a modern LC diesel loco, I hope that I don't regret this decision.   I also have the new LC+ SD-60M which is a great locomotive, and the LC+ Berkshire.   Delivery is not until end of this year (2018), so perhaps into 2019.   BTW I used the AP to set the sounds on my two recent LC+ locos, but generally just run them with my Universal Remote, with 3 trains running on my small 4X12 layout.

With my LC+ locos I rarely use the remote uncouplers.   The LC+ features I will miss with this LC locomotive are the speed control and the ability to tune the sounds through the ap.

Ken-Oscale posted:

I placed a pre-order today with TrainWorld for the Tier-4 BNSF set.   I have six LC+ locos, this will be my first LC loco.   I decided to give it a try in order to have a modern LC diesel loco, I hope that I don't regret this decision.   I also have the new LC+ SD-60M which is a great locomotive, and the LC+ Berkshire.   Delivery is not until end of this year (2018), so perhaps into 2019.   BTW I used the AP to set the sounds on my two recent LC+ locos, but generally just run them with my Universal Remote, with 3 trains running on my small 4X12 layout.

With my LC+ locos I rarely use the remote uncouplers.   The LC+ features I will miss with this LC locomotive are the speed control and the ability to tune the sounds through the ap.

You won’t regret this decision. My LC CSX GP38 diesel from the intermodal set is well worth the price especially with all the sweet maxi stacks and semi trailers they sell for $60 seperate, I think the BNSF set this time around will be a very similar experience you will enjoy it and I can tell you for certain that the sounds are adjustable via the app the same as the LC+ models. That being said check the loco gears out of box and perhaps oil them I felt Lionel could’ve been more thorough in this area, but it’s very minor.