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I struggle with technology, but recognize its value. 

For instance, I think LC+ is a terrific technological breakthrough in the world of O Gauge trains because it has fun and interesting features, does not overwhelm me, is user friendly, and is affordable.

I've been running my 3 LC+ locomotives with their dedicated remote units, which I love. So does my 7 year old granddaughter. I have the Universal Remote  and I downloaded the LC+ App on my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 smartphone, but I have not used them yet. 

This morning I read the instructions and did a Forum search on LC+ to start educating myself about the Universal Remote and the App. I need to learn how to use them because I am purchasing an LC+2.0 switcher in the new Lionel catalogue, and the dedicated remotes do not come with the new LC+2.0 engines.

All of us who have recently ordered LC+2.0 locomotives need to educate ourselves about them. If you have any questions or concerns about them, you can raise them on this thread, where we can pool our knowledge. We have plenty of time to do this because I understand that Lionel projects delivery of the LC+2.0 engines in the new catalogue in the 2nd quarter of 2020.

I will start us off with the following:

According to prior posts re LC+ engines, the LC+ App gets updated periodically. I have the LionChief App Version 2.3.0 that I downloaded from Google Play Store about 1 year ago. Is that the latest version of this App?

Arnold

 

 

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Arnold D. Cribari posted:

 

According to prior posts re LC+ engines, the LC+ App gets updated periodically. I have the LionChief App Version 2.3.0 that I downloaded from Google Play Store about 1 year ago. Is that the latest version of this App?

 

Yes, that's the latest version. We're aiming to do updates twice a year.

Here's a how-to video for the Android version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...2vIBdqN7c&t=544s

The iOS version is similar.

I have it on my to-do list to make a video for the Universal Remote. Working on videos for some LCS components first.

Mr. Dave Olson, thank you so much for your reply and the link therein for the How To Video for the LC+App and Android smartphone. 

I just listened to the video and it explained everything beautifully. Now I have the confidence to start using the LC+ App, which I will do this evening.

For any of you Forum members that are hesitant like I was about using the LC+ App, do yourself a favor and watch the How To Video. 

IMO, those of us that are over 6O years of age, like me, often need help with technology like this. What is so great about the video is that you can go over things 2, 3 or more times that you may not fully understand the 1st time you see and hear it. Younger Forum members, IMO, will tend to grasp this technology more quickly and easily. Of course, there are many exceptions to the above.  Arnold

 

Arnold, you are correct.  Even though I have worked in the electronics field mostly for power and telecom companies, the technology changes faster and faster and I have trouble too.  That is probably why the only job I could find after the early retirement was as an entry level technical support rep for a different telecom.  I'm 40 years older than some of these fellows who I have to call for guidance when handling customer calls!!!!  

I just ran my LC+ New Haven FA AAs using the App for the first time. I can't believe how easy and fun it is running the trains with the smartphone.  The Video also explains how to make the various adjustments to the sounds, momentum, speed limit, etc. 

I know that such features have been around for a long time, but I avoided them because I didn't want to make running trains too complicated. IMO, what makes the LC+ technology so brilliant is that it's so easy to use. This App can be used by model railroaders from age of 4 to 110. All one needs to do is watch the How To Video posted above by Dave Olson, and then run your LC+ locomotive! Arnold

cjack posted:

What size are these engines? Standard O or what they call Traditional?

Chuck, from my anecdotal experience, I think they are different sizes. For instance, I believe my LC+ Erie Camelback is scale O, whereas my LC+ New Haven FA AA diesel and Jersey Central Pacific steamers are traditional.

As I glance at the new Lionel catalogue, it seems that all the New LC+2.0 run on 031 curves, and most run on O27 curves, which is an indication they are traditional. 

My layout is such that I prefer traditional.

Legacy Steam and Legacy Diesel usually require wider curves and are much more likely to be scale O. Arnold

Thank you. That answers my question. Lionel is somewhat inconsistent on designating the scale. Also there was a couple of engines a year or more ago that had some funky Legacy in them due to space requirements. I forget what it was called. It resulted in a very nonlinear startup speed versus turning the dial. I wonder if that will come up again. 

Thanks for mentioning the running on 031. That should help. The engine I was thinking of is an N&W Legacy Lionmaster A. It runs on 031 and is clearly Traditional, but the description on Lionel's site says Scale Type: Scale. Not Traditional. And no hint on the different kind of Legacy electronics inside.

Virtually all LC and LC+ sets still come with a dedicated remote, except one LC+2.0 (Manufacturer's set?) if I recall correctly.  I think this is a wise decision to make sure the customer doesn't require a smart device to operate a new Lionel set. This is as compared with MTH sets,  who,  despite their higher prices,  do not come with any sort of control device.  This is one reason I prefer LC sets to Railking sets when making recommendations to new hobbyists. Another is cost.  More options, less upfront cost in most instances.

LC+2.0 is a direct response to hobbyist pressure from experienced folks who want LC+ but want to use their TMCC or Legacy system to control the loco.  Doesn't matter to me (I like the additional "free" remotes that came with all LC and LC+ locos in the past), but it matters to some,  so why not give people options?  In any case, the universal remote (another option) is, relatively speaking, dirt cheap (about $40 from many retailers), and will also operate new Legacy locos that have Bluetooth.  Seems complex to some, but having lots of choices is still better than fewer choices in my view.  Going forward all Lionel locos will operate with Bluetooth (the free app), the universal remote and any included dedicated remote.  No additional expenses required.

"The new Lionel catalogue says on page 70: "LionChief Plus 2.0 engines do not come with their own remote."

That's only for the separate sale locos, which makes some sense.  LC+2.0 sets with track on pp. 74-75 (Granite Run Quarry; Easter Eggspress and Christmas Candies) come with a LC remote.  The LC+2.0 set on pp. 82-83 (Pennsylvania Fast Freight) contains no track and no remote.  The Manufacturer's Set I mentioned above in error is actually a Legacy set with no track.  So we are both right to some extent . Sets with track will include a LC remote, at least in this catalog, as would also make sense. 

I would hope they won't move to selling sets intended for beginners with track that have no control capabilities unless you pay for them yourself, as MTH does.  This just raises the barrier to entry into the hobby a bit, which makes no marketing sense to me. 

The wisdom of LionChief is, I think, now pretty much evident, as you and I seem to agree. Inexpensive, simple, reliable and flexible.  A home run in my opinion. LC+2.0 extends that approach one more step by including TMCC/Legacy functions.

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

Most of the LC stuff is traditional, but stuff like the A5 and the Camelback were scale sized.  I suspect the Dockside switcher will be close to scale sized for an 0-6-0 as well.

The FTs, NW2 switchers, and the GP-7s and GP-9s are scale-sized as well, so a significant number of the diesels are scale-sized. Other than the A5, Camelback and Docksider, all of the steamers are the smaller traditional size, that I'm aware of. 

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breezinup posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

Most of the LC stuff is traditional, but stuff like the A5 and the Camelback were scale sized.  I suspect the Dockside switcher will be close to scale sized for an 0-6-0 as well.

The FTs, NW2 switchers, and the GP-7s and GP-9s are scale-sized as well, so a significant number of the diesels are scale-sized. Other than the A5, Camelback and Docksider, all of the steamers are the smaller traditional size, that I'm aware of. 

My LC+ NH FAs shown below are definitely traditional size:20180427_210805

Only 1 of the FA units is powered so it is not a great puller. It can pull a few Postwar passenger cars and about 8 modern light weight freight cars, so it is only OK as a puller. Otherwise, it runs, smokes and sounds great, and I think it looks great too, so I am glad I have it.

If both FA units were powered. I think it would have been a great puller and could haul 10+ heavy operating box cars like the Lionel Postwar operating coal/ore dump cars, which are among my very favorites. Arnold

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Arnold D. Cribari posted:
breezinup posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

Most of the LC stuff is traditional, but stuff like the A5 and the Camelback were scale sized.  I suspect the Dockside switcher will be close to scale sized for an 0-6-0 as well.

The FTs, NW2 switchers, and the GP-7s and GP-9s are scale-sized as well, so a significant number of the diesels are scale-sized. Other than the A5, Camelback and Docksider, all of the steamers are the smaller traditional size, that I'm aware of. 

My LC+ NH FAs shown below are definitely traditional size:

Yes, the Alco FAs are traditional-sized; the EMD FTs are scale-sized.

BOB WALKER posted:

Let's not forget to credit Dave Rees at BlueRail Trains for creating the first smart device app based control system several years ago.

Actually, Bob Krivacic developed the first B/T / phone-app train operating system.  Bob lives in the Bay Area, but we were visiting the Angels Gate RR Club in San Pedro 6-8 or so years ago where he showed the system publicly for the first time.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Buy another set, swap shells  and have two powered units.  You'll have to swap some leads so they run properly if you run tail to tail, but then they'll work great together.

Thanks, Gunrunner John. That's a great idea, especially for a very big layout. Then, one can run a lashup of 4 FAs: 2 powered and 2 non-powered units, and probably have plenty of pulling power to run a very long train. 

Of course, that would double the cost of the locomotives, which is another consideration. Arnold

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Of course, that would double the cost of the locomotives, which is another consideration. Arnold

Are you another one of those have your cake and eat it too people?  

I am a bit surprised how weak those are, I have zero issues pulling 40-50 freight cars with any of my Legacy two-motored diesels, and I'm sure they'll pull at least a dozen 18" passenger cars.  My MTH Genesis pulls eleven MTH Amtrak passenger cars and doesn't even break a sweat, at our recent show it was pulling eight superliners.  Even the LC+ Camelback pulls 25 modern freight cars.  Is that a very lightweight engine?

I have a strategy I have for LC+ and my new LC+2.0 from the new catalogue once I get it, which I will now share because I think it may help others besides me.

Lionel, IMO, has been great making repairs free of charge if anything goes wrong during the 1 year warranty period. However, I am nervous about repairs once the warranty period expires.

My strategy is as follows to reduce the need for LC+/LC+2.0 future repairs. I only run them for show, when I have an audience and to entertain my granddaughters. 

For my daily runs, I mainly use my Postwar locomotives, which I also love, that are easy to maintain and get fixed.  Arnold

gunrunnerjohn posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Of course, that would double the cost of the locomotives, which is another consideration. Arnold

Are you another one of those have your cake and eat it too people?  

I am a bit surprised how weak those are, I have zero issues pulling 40-50 freight cars with any of my Legacy two-motored diesels, and I'm sure they'll pull at least a dozen 18" passenger cars.  My MTH Genesis pulls eleven MTH Amtrak passenger cars and doesn't even break a sweat, at our recent show it was pulling eight superliners.  Even the LC+ Camelback pulls 25 modern freight cars.  Is that a very lightweight engine?

Yes, those LC+ NH FAs are light weight. However, my LC+ Erie Camelback and Jersey Central Pacific steamers are heavy and pull much better.

I love to have my cake and eat it too. Doesn't everybody? LOL, Arnold

PS, I greatly appreciate the sharing of mechanical knowledge that you do on this Forum, GunrunnerJohn!

You might consider adding some weight to the powered unit.  I have done that for a few locomotives, especially diesels.  It's amazing what a few ounces sometimes will do.

I added just over a pound to this HHP-8, and it almost doubled it's pulling power!  Before the weight, with six or seven 18" passenger cars, it would spin in any grades or sharp curves.  I'll pull a dozen now, and never missed a beat.  It used to weigh around 4 pounds, the extra pound has an amazing effect!

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

You might consider adding some weight to the powered unit.  I have done that for a few locomotives, especially diesels.  It's amazing what a few ounces sometimes will do.

I added just over a pound to this HHP-8, and it almost doubled it's pulling power!  Before the weight, with six or seven 18" passenger cars, it would spin in any grades or sharp curves.  I'll pull a dozen now, and never missed a beat.  It used to weigh around 4 pounds, the extra pound has an amazing effect!

Thanks again, GunrunnerJohn.

I own two LC+ locos.  The Reading GP-7 and the Pennsy A5.  Both have Bluetooth.  The control I have with my iPhone is impressive.  I can adjust the sounds very simply.  That said, I have to look at the iPhone in order to control the loco.  With the remote, that came with the locos, control is by feel.  No need to constantly take my eyes off the train.

 I suspect younger operators who grew up with all of the newer technology must be laughing by now.  I still text with my pinky.  I don't know how some of you can use both thumbs to hit those letters.....LOL   

I have 3 LC+ locos: Jersey Central Pacific Steamer, Erie Camelback Steamer and New Haven FAs (powered and non-powered units). Each has it's own individual personality.

I recently posted on a different thread about the durability of the Jersey Central Pacific. It took a 4 foot dive onto the concrete basement floor. Only damage was a broken tiny, but important, piece of  plastic that holds the wheel axle in place that I fixed using Superglue. The body was totally unscathed from the fall.  It's a very good puller and IMO beautiful with its baby blue Blue Comet-like livery. Its ruggedness (a great quality IMO, also means its detail is mediocre for a modern engine at best.

The Erie Camelback, IMO, has very good detail, which surprised me when I first saw it at my LHS. Like the Jersey Central Pacific, it is a very good puller and, IMO, very attractive. Knowing LC+ engines have features I like a lot, including sounds, smoke, whistle, bell, electrocoupler, affordability and user friendliness, when I saw its detail, I had to have it.

Unlike the Erie Erie Camelback  and Jersey Central Pacific, the New Haven FAs are not very good pullers. I think the main reason for this is that it lacks heft, which the other LC+ engines have. This may be remedied by adding weights inside the powered unit, which I have not done yet. I simply have it pull fewer and lighter train cars, and then the train runs fine.

I lam very pleased with all 3 of these LC+ locomotives. I primarily run them when I have an audience, and especially during operating sessions with my granddaughter.

One more thing: the Erie Camelback does not have Bluetooth, but the other 2  LC+ engines do, so they can be run with the smartphone App. I like running them using my smartphone but prefer the dedicated remote. For future LC+2.0 engines, I plan to usually run them with the Universal Remote, which I already have.

Arnold

 

What year / product number are we talking about?  The FAs catalogued in 2017 did have two motors, and a die-cast frame (i think.)  If yours doesn't, perhaps you could buy the parts and upgrade it to dual motors yourself.  Dual-motored diesels have a tremendous advantage because 100% of the weight contributes to tractive effort.

Thanks for all your input regarding the LC+ NH FAs.

I'm not at home and do not have access to the engine or box at this time, which would have the Item # an DC other info, , but I believe the powered unit has 2 motors. However, the body is mostly plastic, which is probably why it lacks heft. I think adding weights is a simple and inexpensive solution, assuming I want it to be a better puller. Arnold

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

I have a strategy I have for LC+ and my new LC+2.0 from the new catalogue once I get it, which I will now share because I think it may help others besides me.

Lionel, IMO, has been great making repairs free of charge if anything goes wrong during the 1 year warranty period. However, I am nervous about repairs once the warranty period expires.

My strategy is as follows to reduce the need for LC+/LC+2.0 future repairs. I only run them for show, when I have an audience and to entertain my granddaughters. 

For my daily runs, I mainly use my Postwar locomotives, which I also love, that are easy to maintain and get fixed.  Arnold

Not sure if that is the best approach for maintaining your loco's in tip-top shape, depending on how frequently those events take place. There are many treads about how trains not used frequently fail to start up the next time. My personal approach is to run every train at least once a month. I think that consistent running also stimulates me into lubing and servicing my engines on a regular basis, but it might make for an interesting topic - how frequently should engines be run to maintain them in tip-top shape without overusing them - is there a magic number ?

Here are some reasons I can think of, that would cause a loco to stop working after it was put away for a while:

(1) Broken wire inside (which might have happened because the trucks flopped around when you picked it up to put away.)

(2) Drive rods got bent due to careless handling near the wheels, causing a mechanical bind.

(3) Handrail antennae are contacting the shell due to careless handling or too-fragile design, limiting reception of TMCC signal.

(4) Circuit boards got "zapped" by random electrostatic discharge

(5) Keep-alive memory was lost after a long time without power, combined with an old ineffective back-up battery.

(6) Rubber tires dry-rotted, or melted because they came in contact with an incompatible substance on the shelf.

(7) Lubrication migrated away from a worn bearing while sitting, so the loco makes a squawking noise the first time it's run after storage.

(8) Electrical contact surfaces (wheels, rollers, commutator, brushes) accumulated oxidation during storage, leading to sparking or poor contact.

(9) Batteries leaked inside causing damage

(10) Capacitors dried out and no longer function as designed

(11) Zinc pest caused swelling or shrinking of die-cast parts, leading to mechanical problems

(12) Subtle changes to the layout or control hardware (i.e., worn guide rails on turnouts, TIU channel failure), leading to operational issues or incompatibility

A lot of these problems could be avoided by placing the item on a shelf, instead of forcing it into a too-snug box that was designed to protect it during shipping.  Storing your locos without batteries, in a humidity-controlled environment avoids most of these problems.

I'm not a fan of rubber tires, and I'm not really a fan of using handrails as TMCC antennae.  No one would be worse off if the tender shell, or even the coal pile were molded of Bakelite.  The tender FRAME could be die-cast, but the shell could be plastic.  Move the antenna to the tender or the coal pile-- no more handrail shorts!  It would also make TMCC retrofits a lot easier!

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I have a total newby question.

As I understand it from reading the forums, the LC/LC+/2.0 system only controls the engines and cannot control other things like switches or operating cars. If that is correct does one control the "other things" manually or even with a different digital control system, i.e., TMCC/Legacy/DCS?

Dan

Correct, LC+ 2.0 does not even come with a remote, but the engine control inside the engine listens to existing control formats. It's more like a universal engine that can listen to and be controlled via, the original orange LC/LC+ universal remote, the Lionel Bluetooth app on smart device, and now the LC+ 2.0 added listening to TMCC/Legacy, and last, LC+ and LC+2.0 has a switch to listen for conventional transformer control.

As far as controlling track and accessories, Lionel made TMCC and then later on upgraded to Legacy. Both are a system that can control both trains and tracks and accessories. Some accessories have receivers in them and are listening for command- others you use the add on box controls wired to the device.

MTH DCS protocol and remote is a different signal and different brand, but a DCS system can be connected to a TMCC/Legacy system and so you send commands from the DCS to the TMCC and that lets one remote control everything. Sadly, the opposite is not true. Lionel TMCC/Legacy cannot send commands to a DCS system and/or MTH trains.

I myself went all in and have both systems (Legacy 990 and DCS with remote and Wifi) and the Lionel LCS (layout control system). This is seriously expensive, but once you go down this road, also a lot of fun. To me, the LCS is one of the hands down coolest things if you go down that road. I have 2 cheap refurb iPad 2 tablets that I use in conjunction with the systems. LCS lets me draw my track plan (I limited to show the yards and all the switches an accessories rather than a true 1:1 track plan), but the best thing is the switch monitor module. Not only do I control switches with nothing more than touching the screen showing the switch- but I know if it switched and even if someone manually or a train enters that switch and switched it- the screen updates with real time status. Going further and not yet implemented, I have a tiny LED projector that I can attach to a cheap Ipad running the LCS app, and display as a projection on the wall from a building the track layout and real time status of switches, accessories, and even block power. You want to talk about the stuff people dream of, we can have it today.  I also used all Fastrack command switches making setup and wiring easier- it's just an accessory power to each switch and one wire from the status connection back to the switch monitor module- but you can get the same effect using other switches and the matching switch controller. Again, for me, the edge right now of LCS is it has monitoring capabilities, between the switch monitor module and the track sensor sections, it's beyond cool how far you want to go with automation and display. But the modules do add up, it's a lot of wiring and planning. Also, the LCS app with accessories like the trackside crane, the culvert loader and unloader, the AMC/ARC log loader (which funny enough, I prefer not for the command factor alone, but the more subtle blue and and silver paint scheme). There are just so many cool things about LCS, I cannot even possibly cover them all.

As of right now, I'm only using DCS to run MTH trains. I'm not using it for controlling Lionel trains or switches. I'm also not using the MTH AIU to control accessories or switches since I went with Fastrack command switches and LCS. I also don't often use the DCS wifi, but got it just as a nice to have. Example is, the PFA (passenger freight announcement) mode on the wifi app shows what state of the PFA you are in- something you don't get that additional info on the DCS remote. Point being, I tried to make my layout the most advanced options out there so when guests come over, we can run multiple trains with multiple people and everyone has some form of control.

 

On a totally different topic, I'm still on the fence on LC+ 2.0 engines. I'm taking a wait and see until they actually are at the local hobby shop. I say this, because my biggest annoyance with current Lionchief and LC+ is the cheesy sounds. It's just pathetic sounding to me, you can hear the decoding limitations, sounds like static. It's just not there. You take even an early Railsounds 2.0 blows even the best LC+ sounds out of the water. So on one hand, I love LC+ 2.0 accepting TMCC/legacy control, but if the sounds didn't improve, then it's still a kids toy to me and at adult pricing- no thanks. Wondering if Lionel will have any LC+ 2.0 engines at York next week, even if in prototype running where you could get a feel if the sounds will be as bad as the previous generation. Heck, even signalsounds can be better than a few examples of current LC and LC+.

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The sounds in LC+ 2.0 are supposed to be based on the RS-Lite boards, and from all I've read and heard, they'll be improved over any of the LC or LC+ sounds.  As for "Kid's toy at adult pricing" the MSRP of the LC+ 2.0 Docsider is $250!  That give you a street price in the $220 range.  This gets you TMCC/BlueTooth/LC Universal remote operation, cruise control, fan driven chuffing smoke, 4-chuffs/rev, improved sound quality, etc.  What's the basis of your beef?  I'm already in for two of these, I can't wait to see them!

Mark Boyce posted:

Pretty impressive if you ask me, John!  When they come out with an engine I want, I'll be ready to buy an LC+ 2.0!

Hi Mark:

Guess what? They are coming out with a locomotive with my favorite road name.

Detroit & Mackinac Railway

D&M Locomotive

I do not have Lionel Legacy. I will have to run this loco with the Universal Remote or the LionChief App.

Gary

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

  What's the basis of your beef?

Simple, In the last year, I support repairs in the local train shop and then also bought 3 lion chief plus engines. As seen in the other thread, I can count 5 engines locally I know of, brand new from lionel, and seen LC+ board failures. They were either smoke unit failures (fan motor failing to run) or in one engine, a total power loss issue that was in the board- not pickups, not wiring, a confirmed flakey board. To put it mildly, QC was just non existant. This was both diesels and steam variations, all straight from the distributor. At the same time, the sound sucks. Yes, I said it, the sounds in these engines are pathetic. It's not the speaker, it's the quality and compression of the recording and playback system. 

So as such, you can promise me the world,but until Lionel actually delivers LC+ 2.0 engines, and we see some volume locally and they are better than the previous series (not just features) actual sound quality and QC with lack of these known failures, I'm not preordering anything from Lionel. They burned that bridge with me. I'm not falling for marketing. I put it in the same category of problems as my NS theater car being the wrong color red.

So yes, I have serious beef with modern Lionel.

 

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

One more thing, Mr. Olson.

I think it's a great idea that you plan to make a How To Video for using the LC Universal Remote. It would be great if such a video could be available well before the 2nd quarter of 2020 when Lionel delivers the new LC+2.0 engines that do not come with the dedicated remote. Arnold

I am resurrecting this topic for Mr. Olson, other Lionel representative, or knowledgeable Forum member:

Does anyone know if Lionel has made a video on how to use the LionChief Universal Remote?

If so, how can it be accessed?

Arnold

 

Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:

One more thing, Mr. Olson.

I think it's a great idea that you plan to make a How To Video for using the LC Universal Remote. It would be great if such a video could be available well before the 2nd quarter of 2020 when Lionel delivers the new LC+2.0 engines that do not come with the dedicated remote. Arnold

I am resurrecting this topic for Mr. Olson, other Lionel representative, or knowledgeable Forum member:

Does anyone know if Lionel has made a video on how to use the LionChief Universal Remote?

If so, how can it be accessed?

Arnold

 

Here's a good video on the UR. 

Trainlover9943 posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:
Arnold D. Cribari posted:

One more thing, Mr. Olson.

I think it's a great idea that you plan to make a How To Video for using the LC Universal Remote. It would be great if such a video could be available well before the 2nd quarter of 2020 when Lionel delivers the new LC+2.0 engines that do not come with the dedicated remote. Arnold

I am resurrecting this topic for Mr. Olson, other Lionel representative, or knowledgeable Forum member:

Does anyone know if Lionel has made a video on how to use the LionChief Universal Remote?

If so, how can it be accessed?

Arnold

 

Here's a good video on the UR. 

Thank you, Matt! Excellent video.

Arnold

Ok, someone please tell me what I’m missing. Page 89 of the latest catalog indicates both LionChief + and 2.0 steamers have rear headlights. Does this mean going forward starting with steamers produced in 2020? I’ve looked at the LionChief + CNJ camelbacks produced to date and they do not have rear headlights. What about the new 0-6-0Ts and legacy 0-4-0s? Catalog seems to be silent on rear headlights. Since I model the CNJ & PRR on the NY&LB and southern NJ, operating rear headlights is a necessity.

I am very impressed with Lionel's Lion Chief system. I just got a PRR A5 0-4-0 and I run it on my MTH DCS layout with the LC controller. Now if Lionel would only make battery operated Lion Chief engines, I would go to dead 2 rail operation. It's bound to be the next phase in O scale trains. My other question is why aren't steam engines made in plastic like diesels? Is it just traditional and require new tooling? 

I have the LionChief+2.0 Big Boy runs great smokes good too the only feature it doesn't have is smoke in the whistle but I don't feel like paying a extra 1k for a Legacy Big boy is worth it. I think it is scale sized but not sure on that. Bluetooth works or I use my legacy controller, but like the Bluetooth better. I am really a MTH guy but have both set up on my track.

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