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We are here in Williamsport, IN at Stout Actions looking over the Jim Seacrest O Scale collection. This will be one of three auctions. Saturday will be mostly brass, about 400+ lots. Other actions to follow next month. I suspect most bidding will be on-line but a few of the usual suspects showed up today. We can not post from the auction tomorrow because Verzion has NO signal in the area but will recap in the next issue of The O Scale Resource.stout1stout2stout3

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I drove to the auction this morning and had a fantastic time.

This collection is incredible.  Seeing all those high end brass items in one place is a memory maker in its self!

I scored an item and I'm happy.  As always, it's exactly as described by Stout's. 

Erik, I looked at that model you posted in depth and what struck me at the time was how beautiful the paint  was on it.  It really stood out and that's saying something with the caliber of models in that collection.  Hope the painter gets it back.  Good luck!

Interesting experience.  I was happy to score one of the items I wanted.  Sad to have missed out on many other wonderful models.  I have a pretty long horizon in this hobby.  I expect I'll see similar items come up again over the next few decades.  

It was my first Stout auction activity.  The on-line experience was quick but very straightforward.  I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to pre-bid, observe, and use the bidding system from my smart phone. 

A question for those who have done online/absentee bidding before:  How long should one expect the process to take for invoicing, payment processing, shipping etc.?  Just curious...

It was fun, but some nice pieces got away....... 

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WITZ 41 posted:

A question for those who have done online/absentee bidding before:  How long should one expect the process to take for invoicing, payment processing, shipping etc.?  Just curious...

 

Just depends where you are in the que.  Maybe two weeks to get an invoice. Once they receive payment, shipping happens quickly. UPS ground.  If you have special needs you can call and they will try to take care of you. Biggest hazard is shipping damage. They usually wrap in bubble wrap, then styrofoam peanuts.  But UPS is hard on things. I have tried to get them to ship Fedex as I have less damage with them, but Stout's is stuck on UPS.  

You really can't use the Ebay system on may lots, things just go to fast and the Ebay to Stout translation can result in a lot ending before you have a chance to keep up.

I bid on 9 lots, wanted to win 4, won the 4.  1 above what I expected 2 near what I expected and 1 way below what I expected.  Bill Davis tends to have buyers already lined up at high prices on many things so I worried if I was bidding against him.  I thought most of the passenger cars went where I expected.

I just couldn't get over the endless lots of boxcars in the auction.  I'd get through a lot I was interested and then there would be 20-30 lots of boxcars to sit through.

Erik,

It depends on who won the Rock Island E7.  If it was Bill Davis or Norm Pullen then it may show up at O Scale West or another show they attend.  You could contact them directly and see if they won that lot.  If a lot was won by someone who wanted the lot for themselves it is pretty much gone for the time being.

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VGN64 posted:

You live and learn..........I won't use Deathbay next time.  I didn't realize they had their own site to bid thru.

There is more that one of us who has been there before.  Happened to me when some Smithsonian cars showed up about 6 or 7 years ago and I went through the ebay method.  Didn't win one single car but not for lack of trying.

rdunniii posted:

You really can't use the Ebay system on may lots, things just go to fast and the Ebay to Stout translation can result in a lot ending before you have a chance to keep up.

I bid on 9 lots, wanted to win 4, won the 4.  1 above what I expected 2 near what I expected and 1 way below what I expected.  Bill Davis tends to have buyers already lined up at high prices on many things so I worried if I was bidding against him.  I thought most of the passenger cars went where I expected.

I just couldn't get over the endless lots of boxcars in the auction.  I'd get through a lot I was interested and then there would be 20-30 lots of boxcars to sit through.

Funny to go through the entire auction list and note the PSC or Pacific Limited boxcars.  

PSC did lots of SP outside braced cars along with the B&O M15/M53 and the PRR X29.  Their single door 1937 box car, while not as road-specific as Norm Buckhart's Protocraft cars, is a nice model in its own right and quite accuately done.

Jim had most of the PL cars but a few were missing from the auction as of yet.   Considering how flimsy/sloppy the MP 1932 cars are they fetched a ridiculous premium price.  He had quite the number of PL-1450 NYC cars... but then again so do we, don't we Brad? 

rdunniii posted:

Erik,

It depends on who won the Rock Island E7.  If it was Bill Davis or Norm Pullen then it may show up at O Scale West or another show they attend.  You could contact them directly and see if they won that lot.  If a lot was won by someone who wanted the lot for themselves it is pretty much gone for the time being.

Thank you Richard that's a great plan. And if you see it let me know asap. 

 

I was surprised at some bids, happy to get a Pecos baggage car for $180--- a steal imo.    I was shocked at the price paid for the stock cars...  and the low prices on diesels.     Overall, it was a chance to get cars if you wanted them, some will show again.  I.e. NYC boxcars.    The crr and hcrr are harder to acquire.

Robbie,

 

i concur on your comments on the MP cars...    I did not buy them nor the NYC.     There are variances in quality of the NYC build too.     The single door cars are better then the door and a half.   The SP PAC limited are the best built of all and fetched good prices.   I got four PSC o/b cars which many overlook and pan, but I feel offer real value at $180-220.     I can add more images of my weathered models when I get back.

i expect to see more boxcars in the next round....

BradA posted:

I was surprised at some bids, happy to get a Pecos baggage car for $180--- a steal imo.    I was shocked at the price paid for the stock cars...  and the low prices on diesels.     Overall, it was a chance to get cars if you wanted them, some will show again.  I.e. NYC boxcars.    The crr and hcrr are harder to acquire.

What's interesting is that Pat's "One of 15 made" or "One of 20 made" for the CRR and HCRR cars seems to drive up interest... and price.   Great for collectors as the cars aren't that common to be needed for operators. 

The CRR is the garden variety 4/4 DN end 1932 car whose only difference with the very common MEC model is a different hand brake.     The HCRR car is the very commonly seen NB car but without the plate soldered on the bottom panel of the Gilroy door.  AND the HCRR cars would likely have been seen with K brakes in that era (before US Steel dispersed the cars to the Atlas and the N&B RR).   Neat stuff. 

I originally entertained the thought of updating the hand brake and also the door hardware to Union Duplex on one of my CRR cars to make it into an MP car.

I was following this one too. Even though I not into 2R there was a lot that I was interested in. Had to make choices thought  and went after the GN and CB&Q waycars. Once again another GN Waycar gets away. The other two also do to Internet issues with spectrum I was unable to bid. Spectrum's system went down about midnight last night and wasn't restored until almost 6:00 this morning. No phone, No Internet, No Cable and 3G network was off line.  I guess they had to finally find a new way to feed the squirrels.

As to why anybody would use ebay instead of registering with Stout is beyond me.

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