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One more thing. The problem was not 8 devices and 50' of cable. If the connecting cable to the rest of the LCS was unplugged from from the 8th device the first 8 LCS devices worked sometimes. Taking off the 8th device, the first seven worked all the time. When the remaining 35 LCS devices were reconnected nothing worked. For the whole system to work with 100% reliability, 5 joiners were needed.

35 LCS devices?  Wow - Lionel's special cable supplier loves you!

Nice to hear it can be made work with that complicated of a setup.

Jim

To be precise, it is 35 after the first 7 so the total is 42, plus the 5 Joiners for a total of 47 LCS devices that required interconnecting cables. The system has worked every time for the past five years. Lionel got a lot of revenue from this poor S gauge operator!

Of all the LCS devices, two ASC2's have failed. The failure was the same for both, on startup they would not remember their programming. I could reprogram them for the current operating session but the next time I turned on the layout they would not work. The only issue was the TMCC ID, the rest of the settings were still in memory. I just replaced them with spares, no more device failures in the last 24 months.

Progress, but still a small mystery.  Apparently, the WiFi Monitor doesn't know what to do if the boxes aren't properly configured, something that I figured might be an issue.  After I configured all the CSM2 boxes, they show up as expected.   Apparently, the CSM2 boxes are mis-identified as STM2 boxes in the monitor, probably because they perform a similar function, just for the DZ-2500 switch machines.  Finally it appears that the IRV2 shows up for each configured IR sled, so if you have four connected, I presume it would show up four times.  I have the one plugged into the first connector, and it must come defaulted to have two programmed.

The mystery is still the BPC2 that shows up, I don't have one of those.  However, the CSM2 has block power capability, so "maybe" that's one of those showing up.  However, I would presume all of them would show up if that was the case.

Is anyone else using the CSM2 boxes?  If so, how do they show up in your WiFi Monitor display?

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Progress, but still a small mystery.  Apparently, the WiFi Monitor doesn't know what to do if the boxes aren't properly configured, something that I figured might be an issue.  After I configured all the CSM2 boxes, they show up as expected.   Apparently, the CSM2 boxes are mis-identified as STM2 boxes in the monitor, probably because they perform a similar function, just for the DZ-2500 switch machines.  Finally it appears that the IRV2 shows up for each configured IR sled, so if you have four connected, I presume it would show up four times.  I have the one plugged into the first connector, and it must come defaulted to have two programmed.

The mystery is still the BPC2 that shows up, I don't have one of those.  However, the CSM2 has block power capability, so "maybe" that's one of those showing up.  However, I would presume all of them would show up if that was the case.

Is anyone else using the CSM2 boxes?  If so, how do they show up in your WiFi Monitor display?

John, the CSM is a combination module, containing BPC2 and STM2 functionality.  There were many reason that this was the best way to build and identify the module for the Apps.  The WiFi Monitor Tool is useful, and giving you the pertinent information.  You can blame me for the design !

It's odd, that's for sure.  I can unplug all the modules except for the SER2 and WiFi, those don't show up then.  Maybe it's because I haven't wired, my CSM2 boxes to the switches yet, and it's confused about what they are?

They come back with all the CSM2 boxes and the IRV2 connected.  There are four CSM2 boxes connected and one IRV2 connected.  It looks like the IRV2 shows each track sled, I programmed the one I have installed so far at #90.

Now I'm wondering if some of the CSM2 boxes are dead as well.

The IRV2 is literally 4 independent IR tracks rolled into one module, with the sled sensors attached to each IR track electronics in the module.  So it will show up as 4 independent "IR" in the Tool.  Just think of the IRV2 as 4 independent sensor tracks.

Jon,

The WiFi Monitor has proved it's worth to me multiple times, no complaints!   I figured the IRV2 might be handled as individual tracks.  I'm a bit more confused about the presentation of the CSM2.  I know that the CSM2 has the BPC functionality, but only one BPC2 shows up with the four CSM2 boxes.  What happened to the other three BPC2 displays?

I'm really just getting started with the whole LCS configuration, so I'm bound to have some surprises and questions along the way.

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Jon,

The WiFi Monitor has proved it's worth to me multiple times, no complaints!   I figured the IRV2 might be handled as individual tracks.  I'm a bit more confused about the presentation of the CSM2.  I know that the CSM2 has the BPC functionality, but only one BPC2 shows up with the four CSM2 boxes.  What happened to the other three BPC2 displays?

I'm really just getting started with the whole LCS configuration, so I'm bound to have some surprises and questions along the way.

I would guess that the TMCC ID for the BPC's overlaps.  Did you set their addresses to unique numbers?

Well, I got the new IRV2 from ModelTrainStuff, and it doesn't kill my network.  They turned around that RMA light lightning!

That being behind me, I'm back to figuring out the system.  Ran into a little issue, it seems my SER2 box is kicking back an error.

I have no idea what this means, and I don't find much in the way of clarification.  Is this something that is "normal", or should I be looking for trouble?

The NVM error looks a bit ominous, not sure what that means.  I'm presuming that's Non-Volatile Memory.  Is this just because it's not initialized or something else?

___SER2 ERROR

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