The Weaver BP-20 sold for $2225.00

Almost the price of a Vision Line Big Boy.

I hope the buyer enjoys it. That is a lot of money. I think the bidder who came in second may be the real winner. He gets another chance to find one for a lot less. Reminds me of the time an ex-girlfriend of mine dumped me. It didn't take me too long to realize that in losing, I'd won. 

Silly.

Is it? Will the loser get another chance... And how long will he have to wait? The price is right inline with Lionel's msrp on the Centipede.

Holy Cow!

And in other news, a North Pole Central dome car sold for over $500!

 

I'd like to get one to finish my eight reindeer set to run under the Christmas tree, but it will be a cold day in heck before I even pay close to that amount to complete Santa's set of motive power.

To each his own.

They were limited on the first run.  There was a second run that was cancelled.  Modifications were made to some of the B-units for more power.  Takes a large layout.  Is all brass with good detail and paint.  I believe there were only 27 units. 18 A units and 9 B units, used for commuter service, Long Island, NY. Run as A-B-A consists.  Had significant problems and would not MU with anything else.  Forum member, Neil Schorr, spent a lot of time on this project for Joe Hayter/Weaver models at the time. Interesting to note that there were probably more O-scale models than 1 to 1 units. One of my favorites.   May be a must for a Pennsy modeler???

 

Thank you Mike for the informative post.

If Lionel or Atlas has the tooling, maybe we will see a re-release of this loco down the road.

I would buy a Legacy version of the BP-20.

No tooling - it's a brass, handbuilt model.

If you got it spend it.

Shoot - these got away from me. I was looking at them for a scratch-bashing project.

I was going to buy a new soldering iron just to disassemble them.

Shoot - these got away from me. I was looking at them for a scratch-bashing project.

 

And may I ask what was this project?

And may I ask what was this project?

 

Oh, I dunno.

 

Several streamlined industrial switchers? 

NYC hump trailers?

GM&O Passenger locos (they had the Baby-face version, so...)

Spice racks?

 

If these are of brass, made by one of the custom builders thereof, what 'tooling' are we dreaming about that would be in the possession of Atlas/Lionel??? 

 

Correct me if wrong, but I believe the last brass engine by Lionel was the Smithsonian version of the NYC Dreyfuss 4-6-4.  Yes?  No?

 

Whatever....

 

Shows that when things are made in limited numbers, likely to never recur again, it becomes subject to 'pole-vault pricing'...the bar goes up until it's no longer cleared.

 

And who knows how high the winning bid REALLY was, since it may have only ratcheted to the next incremental bid level.

 

Isn't this fun???

 

 

HOLY COW!!!....I bought a brand new in the box A-B set, double motor in both units, at this past April York for $850.00!!  I now own two A-B sets..   The first set I bought a little over a year or so ago has a double motor A unit but the B unit has no motors...

 

Alan

Same thing in 2- rail - we just watched an ancient pre-war model cab forward go for $2600.

These guys on the bay get all excited sometimes and forget how to use their brains and get into a bidding war, to much testosterone and not enough gray matter.

I'm glad that I got the Tuscan A-B set,both powered.  Eventually it will pull some Pennsy varnish.  I remember seeing Sharks pulling coal drags when I was a youngster.

I must have been around 10 years old at that time.

 

Norm

Alan,

 

SALE SALE SALE!! The frame might warp and fall apart in your hands. Brass Rot!

 

Maybe I should put my Weaver NKP  Hudson up on the bay.

 

Take care,

Richard

 

 

What BP 20's where when ?   were they New Jersey Central brass ?

A question about an all brass model like this, or a steam locomotive. There is a fair amount of detail that is added on, which would be cast brass parts. The sheet metal work, probably done from flat sheet brass would have to be hammered/pressed or formed in someway to get the sleek curves of the model. My guess is there would have to be some specialty tooling for this processing? So is there specialty tooling involve with a brass model???   A lot of engineering for the swinging front coupler pilot, unique IMO. 

I guess the purchaser couldn't possibly know what he (or she) was doing, and be perfectly happy with their purchase.

 

 

Granted, there's going to be some form of tooling and jigs, but the machinery and skill sets required to build a brass model are entirely different (essentially scratch-building on a larger scale) and more time consuming than a that of a die cast or plastic model.

 

Rusty

Norm

Not BP20 passenger engines.

They were PRR BF16 freight engines that were great at hauling low speed high tonnage coal drags, where they found their nitch.

NJ Custom Brass did these in 2 rail many years ago.

Mike is correct.  I did work extensively with Joe Hayter to bring these units to market.  The first run was entirely presold, but he did not get enough orders for the second run, so it was cancelled.  That run was to have included the single stripe Tuscan and Brunswick Green units.

Sorry, but - well, let's put it this way (fill in the blanks): "A____ and his _____ are soon ______". I wouldn't pay that much for a MIB 700K, or any toy train from any manufacturer, I don't care how well made or how rare. Just my opinion.