Time for Sunset 3rd Rail Santa Fe 5001 Class 2-10-4 - 2019 level of detail - never done before in O scale

Anyone that would like to Chime in? Let's not let this one die...  Let's hear your thoughts Santa Fe Modelers

Two reasons I would not purchase - although it's definitely a locomotive worthy of a Sunset/3rd Rail offering.

1) I own an MTH Premier model of Santa Fe #5012. It might not be up to the standard of a Sunset/3rd Rail version but it's quite satisfactory for me.

2) In view of 1) above, I cannot justify the expenditure.

On the other hand, I would purchase a New Haven I-5...

MELGAR

How much $$$ do you think Scott would have to charge for this loco?

Ed

This is great I am in

VintageClassics posted:

Anyone that would like to Chime in? Let's not let this one die...  Let's hear your thoughts Santa Fe Modelers

Well good luck to Ya on this one. I've been trying to get Scott to do the C&O K3/3a with both tenders, as well as, the NYC H-10 a, b, c, d.....

Both versions were "Super Makido's Magnificent"......... 

As far as cost..........?.....It's  What ever the Market will Bare, just like anything else........Just Sayin

0-54 3 rail min radius  and I would buy

Was the 5001 class ever used for passenger service

Hi Marty,

Yes, indeed the 5001 class were used for passenger service. As a matter of fact #5008 would regularly pull passenger engines and #5010 out of Colorado mountainous areas where their extra power and traction came in handy

Also, #5004 would also pull passenger engines from New Mexico to Colorado! 

David

tangoman posted:

0-54 3 rail min radius  and I would buy

Not a chance.
3rd Rail engineers their big steam for O72; I expect that's the smallest radius capability you'd see.

I'd have to agree. The 3rd Rail Big steamers like these do tend to like the wider curves.

That being said.. If this project takes off..  I DEFINITELY would order 2 IF Sunset makes em! 

Did the 5001 class engines ever actually operate over Raton Pass on passenger trains (or any trains), as Vintageclassics says? -- "Also, #5004 would also pull passenger engines from New Mexico to Colorado!"

2-10-2s were used in helper service over Raton Pass, but I didn't think I've ever seen a photo of a 5001 class engine on Raton, nor can I find a reference to such use (which doesn't mean it never happened).

tangoman posted:

0-54 3 rail min radius  and I would buy

This is the sort perspective that brings a smile to those of us who've dabbled some/much of our model railroading lives in HO scale.  An O-54 curve (diameter) in O3R parlance is equivalent to a 13.5" radius in HO.

An HO 2-10-4 navigating a 13.5" curve??   Yeah........right.

Lessee....take the flanges off the wheels on axles 1, 3, and 5, use a rubber band for an engine-tender drawbar, provide for trackside clearance of about 3+ inches.......Hmmmmmmmm......maybe so, maybe so.

Awkward.

tangoman posted:

0-54 3 rail min radius  and I would buy

a scale brass 2-10-4 on 054 curves? you must be joking right!

072 is a minimum.... and mine does NOT like that minimum very much. It makes it around most of them but they better be true 072 and not a variance

It's going to need the O-72 curves with that rigid wheelbase. But it would be very amazing...

Imagine... a ATSF 2-10-4 that's never been done before... with TODAY'S level of detail....

Can only imagine how beautiful those new Sunset 3rd Rail T&P 2-10-4's are gonna be! 

On the 3rd rail web site the T&P 2-10-4  shows a min radius of 48" in 2 rail and 054 in 3 rail

Hmmm... minteresting Mahhhty...  I think It will work if they say it does

What do you guys think?

Happy Railroading! 

I think Gary Schrader does absolutely stunning work.

Regards,

GNNPNUT

IMO, the nicest looking steam locomotive wheel arrangement. Santa Fe 5000’s do it justice for sure!

Gary Shrader does indeed do AMAZING work GNNPNUT

Interestingly... Gary Shrader also did this fabulous review for the SUnset 3rd Rail ATSF 4-8-2 - awesome review!

http://www.3rdrail.com/sf3700-review.html

TM Terry, I have to agree with you.  3rd Rail would do an AMAZING job on them too...