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I have an MTH Premier F59PHi that I want to give the 3RS treatment, but the pilots on this model look to be a little challenging. They are not the same shape as the body, and really not 100% to the prototype. Should I just ditch them and try to scratch build new ones or is there an easier way? 

Also any tips on 3RS-ing those K Line commuter cars would be appreciated too! 

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As a side note, the locomotive and cars will be repainted so the mixed paint schemes and incorrect frame color isn't an issue. 

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The F59PHi has an odd pilot. If you imagine it without the snowplow, you'll see a flat pilot a few feet short of the end of the locomotive. The MP36's that Metrolink and some others use has a similar pilot (and it looks weird without a snowplow). The pictures below should give you a hint of how to shape the spacer. I'd use 1/8" styrene and "round it" to the contours. Then add side fill to the front of the pilot, leaving space for the snowplow. The other alternative would be to abandon the existing pilot altogether and fabricate a new front end entirely. By the way, I'm in the same boat as I have a Metrolink F59PHi I need to work on. On the rear, there isn't much special about the pilot as the locomotive wasn't designed to pull "backward". I believe there is a hostler cab back there on some of the earlier units, but none had headlight system.

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By the way, you have a prototypical consist there.

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AGHRMatt posted:

The F59PHi has an odd pilot. If you imagine it without the snowplow, you'll see a flat pilot a few feet short of the end of the locomotive. The MP36's that Metrolink and some others use has a similar pilot (and it looks weird without a snowplow). The pictures below should give you a hint of how to shape the spacer. I'd use 1/8" styrene and "round it" to the contours. Then add side fill to the front of the pilot, leaving space for the snowplow. The other alternative would be to abandon the existing pilot altogether and fabricate a new front end entirely. By the way, I'm in the same boat as I have a Metrolink F59PHi I need to work on. On the rear, there isn't much special about the pilot as the locomotive wasn't designed to pull "backward". I believe there is a hostler cab back there on some of the earlier units, but none had headlight system.

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By the way, you have a prototypical consist there.

Amtrak-Sounder

Thanks! Right now I'm leaning toward starting from scratch, especially since it won't need to be structural since I wouldn't ever have anything on the front end of the locomotive. As you stated, the rear pilot is more straightforward, although the MTH one looks a tad small. Neat to see the mixed consist at the end! Do you happen to have a higher resolution version of that photo?

Hi Will.

Unfortunately, I just stumbled across that one and couldn't find a better photo.

Mixed consists were common on Metrolink until they got the new Hyundai-Rotem cars. It appears they've returned all of the Sound and New Jersey Transit equipment they were leasing, but there were a couple of F59PH (non-streamlined) locomotives they leased from somewhere still in service until the F125's (really nice looking units) went into service.

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