At Gunrunner John's suggestion, here is a featured thread for uploading old TMCC/LEGACY instruction manuals and other out-of-print TMCC/LEGACY reference documents.

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Legacy Users Group Meeting Video...

 

Seems this maybe useful and since the other sticky has been released it will be easy to find here.

 

Special thanks to Dave Slie for videoing the event.

 

Please note some of my commentary is based on observations at the Lionel Booth and may not reflect the actual product or how it operates.  All opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect Lionel's views. I will post the Q&A tomorrow.  First day back at work was a bear.  Keep in mind that I am not a professional speaker so it is, what it is...  We tried to relay and answer the question the best we could based on the questions asked.

 

 

There have been some inquiries recently about Lionel Railsounds and Stationsounds; what parts to use and their associated part numbers.  Hopefully, these Lionel PDFs will help

 

Best,

Dave

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Railsounds 6.0 PARTS.pdf
Railsounds 2.0 PARTS.pdf
Railsounds 2.5 PARTS.pdf
Railsounds 3.0 PARTS.pdf
Railsounds 4.0 PARTS.pdf
Railsounds 4E PARTS.pdf
Railsounds 5.0 PARTS.pdf
Railsounds 5.5 PARTS.pdf

From a Recent tread.  TMCC 101


If you can find a CAB-1/Command Base, the original TMCC offering,  here is a link from the Lionel website.  A 48 page manual that was part of the Cab-1 handheld/Command base offering.   The complete guide to command control.  Click on the underlined phrase to link.
Here is a link to the Legacy Control System V 1.5.  88 page manual

Both manuals have just about everything that is involved with the two systems. Basic wiring to multiple unit/locomotive operations.

Another important part of the system is the Track Power Controller.  It allows for Conventional control using hand held remotes. 

Edit/add:  The TPC (Track Power Controller) has the ability to interface with QSI/MTH Proto1 and Proto2 in conventional mode. Noted in this publication. Simple commands like horn/whistle, couplers, etc. are available via the Cab1 handheld control buttons.  Pages 17,18,19.   

There are other control devices related to accessory and block controls, that more or less piggy-back off either of the two command systems.

Lots of infomation in those three underlined phrases.
Have fun
Mike

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Long Range 2.4ghz antenna for Legacy Command Base

 

Here's a long range antenna that easily replaces the stock Legacy Command Base antenna and will improve range if you are having issues, especially with large layouts or irregular shaped rooms with solid obstructions.

 

2.4GHz 9dBi High Gain Omni Directional WiFi Antenna RP-SMA

 

In the event this particular item is no longer available, there are many similar listings on eBay for 2.4ghz hi-gain antennas.

 

9db 2.4ghz antenna

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A question was raised in another thread about the TMCC command structure.  I thought maybe a link to this document would be handy.  This publication documents the complete TMCC command structure (but not Legacy).  For folks working on software to control your trains and accessories from a computer or smart phone, this is probably the reference to have.

 

Lionel - Complete Guide to Command Control 71-2911-250

as reference version 1.0 with no silver dot must go back to lionel for upgrade.

 

no silver dot

 

 

Originally Posted by cbojanower:

They didn't put the silver dot on the ones that were sent in for the service, only the ones that were fixed at the factory before going on the market.

 

As John said if its taking the updates, its patched and working fine

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Jim, a couple posts up is all the TAS stuff I have.  What's a PW-UCUB?  There's the UCUB and UCUB2 manuals in that post.

TAS put out the PW-UCUB just after the UCUB. It had the footprint of a DD motormite, uses a C-08 R2LC and has the DC offsets to  drive an air whistle, hence the PW moniker. It was a very handy board, and would fit in a whistle tender. A quick tether install and voila air whistles on 18 volts. I have one that needs repaired. Tried to contact Ernie E about this but he seems to be among the missing.  

Originally Posted by MartyE:

Lionel has a lot of Legacy "How To" videos on their Youtube Channel.

I'm going to order the DVD from Lionel but need to get some other parts also since the charge a flat rate $9.00 for shipping.

Lionel does have a how to DVD on the legacy. They still sell it under replacement parts the part number is 6104295DVD you can call Lionel or ask your local Lionel dealer to order it in for you.

Originally Posted by Gene H:

Yes, thats the DVD i'm going to order. I'm figuring out what parts I need to order with it. 

The legacy videos are also published also on youtube by Lionel here is the links

 

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IoCPsGJCOo

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83juIEmCzig

Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2ZProokjI

Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XiMjbGuT_o

Part 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwtv4EdxriI

Part 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTp7yqPkG7I

Part 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wTqTuJa5j0

Part 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQBLPeBOB_U

Part 9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd2N63AOoYA

Part 10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ623iBrKDc

Part 11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pRt7tSRX50

Part 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA-8IWHWxFg

Part 13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMCQKXMQs2w

Part 14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmispE7gRgw

Part 15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU1T4VfwsO0

Part 16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8piwbw6qmOc

Part 17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlHEiJJETk

Part 18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olNbREWw888

Part 19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utsC3CAcTCs

Part 20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQt4CvaE9Ps

Part 21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNaifWNU_CA

Part 22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Ot4r26nu8

Part 23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2STleCoYvU

Part 24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_5WR_oN9Uk

Part 25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAqQB33w-Yg

Part 26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKO9PKKAfeo

Part 27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUYAGkChjVk

Part 28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s_Nr_qQw3I

Part 29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZX4a2e0Vt4

Part 30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqArtjw5By0

Part 31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXR0G0I0XD0

Part 32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvYotIX44_I

Part 33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWhamkrgzfc

 

Lionel LCS videos

 

Intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkzsqcxP4Xs

Sensor Track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncq6XopqS0I

WIFI Install https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVuu1D0GhNk

Icab APP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Vqm5tUXKg

 

 

Lionel Official youtube channels

 

Lionel Service Product demos and how to videos 

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/LIONELCS2011/videos

 

Lionel engineering and LCS department 

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/LionelEngineering/videos

 

Lionel Sales 

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/LionelModelTrains/videos

 

Originally Posted by Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611:

Re: Celebration series ZW Manual-

 

Does anyone have a link to this manual?  i couldn't find the manual searching the Forum, or Lionel.com.

 

Thank You!

Just go to Lionel website, Search for Product, type in your Product number and then click on the Service Documents link.  For example if you type in 6-32930, then the product page comes up and then you click on Service documents below.

Originally Posted by SandJam:
Originally Posted by Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611:

Re: Celebration series ZW Manual-

 

Does anyone have a link to this manual?  i couldn't find the manual searching the Forum, or Lionel.com.

 

Thank You!

Just go to Lionel website, Search for Product, type in your Product number and then click on the Service Documents link.  For example if you type in 6-32930, then the product page comes up and then you click on Service documents below.

Thanks Sean.  Found it.  SIRI recorded the product number in my "Notes" for later reference, and I added a "Bookmark" for good measure!

 

Cordially,

 

Dennis

 

 

Updated the Legacy Engines guide to include all 2015 items, slightly different look to the guide now to allow for easier updates.

Hard to believe almost 1000 Legacy engines at this point.

Legacy_Engines

Here's the schematic diagram and the source code for the ERR Sound Converter board that was recently released by ERR.  The code is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License, here's a clip from the header.

//****************************************************************************
// © Copyright ElectricRR - 2013
// This file is part of the OFST controller system.
//
//    OFST is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
//    it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
//    the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
//    (at your option) any later version.
//
//    OFST is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
//    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
//    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
//    GNU General Public License for more details.
//
//    You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
//   along with Foobar.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.

I've compiled and loaded this code into the board using the current version of the Microchip MPLAB X IDE and free C compiler.

Enjoy.

 

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Here's an amazing and incredibly useful set of guides to the Legacy RCMC wiring as well as the RailSounds Lite sound board wiring.  This was compiled by one of our very own forum members, and he should at least get several attaboys for it!  This is welcome information in an area where there is a dearth of available info.  Thank you Bruk Bannister!

Edit: updated with latest versions of the documents.

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Here is a diagram to connect the STM2 to DZ-2500 switch machine using a DZ-1008A realy. This works in one wire mode. I have test this and it works. 

DZ2500 and STM2

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