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Hello from NJ ...

i have been running a very basic CAB-1L/ BASE-1L.   I recently got the urge to purchase two ARCs, then decided to get LCS WiFi, ASC2, and figured I would incorporate the ARC units into that architecture.   I never hooked up the ARC directly to the BASE-1L so I do not have a reference for performance wired that way.

So today I hooked up the SER2 to the BASE-1L, and the ARC to the SER2 and installed a sensor track as a switch.   It basically works ... but .... it is extremely lethargic.  When the switch is tripped the train, at a somewhat slow pace, will travel about 5-6ft past the switch before the porgrammed action occurs.   Can anyone comment how that compares to what you are experiencing?

The other issue I am having is getting a second ARC to work.   I initially installed the second ARC in a daisy chain fashion per the manual.   I could not get it to execute any programs.  

I then tried to use a second SER2 with the second ARC.  Not only did that not work, but it caused the first ARC to stop working.

Can someone advise if this could/should work?    Suggestions appreciated.

Thanks ... Joe

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As mentioned, the first ARC (6-14181), Programs 1-8 is working.  The problem is getting the second ARC (programs 9-16) to work.  I have interconnected the COM/ DAT/ TXA terminals of the two ARCs (daisy-chain) per the comments in the FAQ section of the ARC User’s Guide on Page 25.  Given the response of the LEDs on the ARC and SER2 it would seem that the second ARC is “in the loop” … however I cannot get it to execute any programs (9-16) - even a simple program just blowing the horn on an engine.  So it would seem that the second ARC is not talking back thru the first ARC to the command base.
 
Therefore, I have tried a few different wiring schemes (shown as ARC1=>ARC2)  
     (1) COM=>COM/ DAT=>DAT/ TXA=>TXA
     (2) COM=>COM/ DAT=>TXA/ TXA=>DAT
     (3) COM=>COM/ DAT=>DAT/ TXA=>TXC 
 
As a second question ... Can an ARC see a track switch connected to a different ARC?  Or would I just call a program on the second ARC to respond to the track switch connected to it?
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Hello from NJ ...

So today I hooked up the SER2 to the BASE-1L, and the ARC to the SER2 and installed a sensor track as a switch.  Thanks ... Joe

Hey Joe

Looking over what you have I don't see anything out of the ordinary but I haven't played with an ARC in many years.  I assume you assigned the 2nd ARC with it's own unique ID. 

I just wanted to high light that area of your original question to prevent confusion...  In this instance I believe what you are referring to is an isolated rail section of track to trigger one of the ARC's 4 inputs.  Many people will see Sensor Track and confuse it with the newer IR sensor track.

I'll see if I can get Rudy to take a look at your question.  Between him and Jon maybe they can figure out the issue. 

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Hi Marty,

Thanks for reaching out.  I assigned  ARC #1 ACC#1 (should assign 1-8 as I understand it to ARC #1) and then I assigned ARC #2 ACC #9 (should assign ACC #9-16).  I do not have any other ACC defined on the system at the moment.  Am I doing this correctly?

You are correct about the track section ... I did not mean the IR Sensor Track, I meant isolating one of the outer rails and creating a switch - I think the term I should have used is track switch?

I have never tried wiring this directly to the Base-1L ... but I have ordered the RS232 3-wire cable needed for that and should receive it today to try to get it working in the standard fashion and then try to migrate to the LCS/SER2 system.  That was also Lionel tech service recommendation.

Do you remember, or know which of the following interconnection schemes is correct?

     (1) COM=>COM/ DAT=>DAT/ TXA=>TXA

     (2) COM=>COM/ DAT=>TXA/ TXA=>DAT

     (3) COM=>COM/ DAT=>DAT/ TXA=>TXC 

 

Thanks again ... Joe

I tried connecting to the BASE-1L over the weekend, and basically the results were the same ... I got the first one to work, but could not get the second operating.  I tried all three wiring schemes from post above.

I would almost imagine at this point that one of the units has a problem ... I will try to get the third and see what happens.

I found your post and wonder if you ever solved your problem?  From what I have researched you need a Lionel 6-14192 cable to connect from the Lionel SER2 (RS-232) to the Lionel ARC. With the following connections at the ARC: Red ==> DAT, Green ==> Comm, and Black ==> TXC.  If I read the manual correctly, to connect a second or more ARC’s in a daisy chain you connect as follows: TXA ==> TXA (Black wire), COMM ==> COMM (green wire) and DAT ==> DAT (Red Wire).

UPDATE 2:  For those that might consider using these devices ... when there is more than one (ARC1 and ARC2 as an example), you can run a routine on one of them (ARC1) that calls a routine in the other (ARC2) which can see an input sensor that is on the second unit you would like to use in a program in the first unit.  These are very flexible units.

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