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For all you restorers out there! I once read somewhere that when taking apart tinplate trains and rolling stock for repainting and restoration, you have to be careful with the metel tabs when disassembling and putting them back together.

If the tab was originaly bent over, when reassembling they should either be bent in the other direction and/or twisted instead of bent. I have also learned through trial and error that when working with tinplate trains and rolling stock, you get one chance whne it comes to bending or twisting metel tabs.  Bend and/or twist more than once, when putting back together, and you will have a nice little metel tab in your hands.

Happy Railroading and have fun with your restorations!!!

I just finished up a Lionel prewar 657 caboose. I saw the Lionel prewar 807 caboose in light green and dark green roof. but I didn't like the 4 wheel arrangement. I wanted it 8 wheels(4 wheel trucks. So I found a beater 657 on ebay, and took her apart and repainted her light green body and dark green roof. (pic enclosed.

Happy painting!!         

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I tried bend and twist and so far no problems. Some folks state that they uses a soldering iron to heat the tab before they bend it straight to take it apart and had good luck.
What I am in the process of restoring a standard gauge 8 loco shell that I picked up on eBay. There is a large brass insets on each side of the shell for windows/grill/name boards that are held in place with tabs. Once I had the shell apart and stripped of paint I noticed that the shell is not soldered together, What I did was to heat each tab wit a small torch until it was red hot then to let it cool down very slowly (do not quench) to anneal the steel (make it softer) I did this twice (hope it works).
I just finished painting the shell and in the process or finishing the two brass plates with clear and a color for the windows. Unfortunately I will be going to Vegas for over a week for a trade show (no-Fun, just work). When I get back the paint should be dried and I will post the assembly results.

On some of those cars with attachment tabs I've found ways to use a long machine screw through one drilled hole in the center of the floor/frame, and thread it into existing or added material inside the car. I leave the tabs straight just for alignment purposes. The screw attachment allows easy dis-assembly and reassembly.

A prewar Lionel 814 boxcar has a cross-piece just under the roof center which can be drilled and threaded for a machine screw coming up through the floor. It doesn't affect the external appearance of the car. I opened the car to straighten a bent floor which made the car wobbly on its trucks, also upgraded the couplers.

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Also, if you are privy to the finer points of tabs and reconstruction of tinplate trains,

it will help in buying pieces at train shows that dealers say are "all original" or "pristine".

All one has to do is inspect the under side of any tinplate rolling stock. If you find scratches

and/or scrapes near the tabs, that is a clue that the car has been tampered with and either

taken apart and/or reassymbled from parts from other cars.

Popi posted:
.... If you find scratches and/or scrapes near the tabs, that is a clue that the car has been tampered with and either taken apart and/or reassymbled from parts from other cars.

have to say there there is nothing wrong with disassembling a tinplate car to clean it.  i do this with almost all enclosed cars (boxcars, reefers, passenger cars, etc).  can't say i've ever left a scratch when prying a tab as i only use my fingernails.  if there is a chance i'll need to take the body off again, i'll give a very slight twist to two tabs, but most of the time when i know the car is as clean inside as i can get it, i'll usually restore all the tabs.  Marx tabs are probably the most robust.  though i've never done a test to see just how much rebending they can withstand, i'm certain it's more than 2.  the most problematic cars i've ever dealt with are early Flyer cars.

i differentiate twist vs bend depending on the geometry of the body where the tab attaches.  in solid side cars, where the body is very rigid, the bend will hold best on opposing sides, but if the tab comes off a strut as in a tank car, the twist will hold more solidly.

cheers...gary

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