Union Pacific 4141 to take President Bush home.

I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic.  Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.

I really wonder why the difference in perception.

Frisco, MoPac, and T&P near Rolla, MO
palallin posted:

I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic.  Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.

I really wonder why the difference in perception.

Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated? 

 

Hot Water posted:
palallin posted:

I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic.  Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.

I really wonder why the difference in perception.

Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated? 

 

Maybe so.

Maybe also that trains were relatively new to normal folks for the most part and I'd think some considered the use of a train to be disrespectful to a degree. I recall reading of such a reaction from that timeframe, by some.

Hot Water posted:
palallin posted:

I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic.  Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.

I really wonder why the difference in perception.

Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated? 

 Yes but other than that, what did Mrs. Lincoln think of the play?

 

p51 posted:
Hot Water posted:
palallin posted:

I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic.  Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.

I really wonder why the difference in perception.

Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated? 

 

Maybe so.

Maybe also that trains were relatively new to normal folks for the most part and I'd think some considered the use of a train to be disrespectful to a degree. I recall reading of such a reaction from that timeframe, by some.

By "years back," I mean when the Lionel model came out.  Many folks were adamant that they'd never have one on their layout.

 

I can't imagine the manner of the death has anything to do with the reception of the toy today.

Frisco, MoPac, and T&P near Rolla, MO
Hot Water posted:
Nick Chillianis posted:

The train has arrived in College Station. The President is almost home. Rest in peace.

Except, College Station was NEVER his "home". The Bush Presidential Library grounds will however, be his final resting place.

I meant it in the spiritual sense, Jack. 

juniata guy posted:

UP has included a link on their website that provides details of the Bush Funeral Train.

https://www.up.com/media/media_kit/bush41/index.htm

And I'll repeat here what I posted on the TRAINS Newswire a day or two ago.  President Bush is the last President I can honestly say I admired.  Mr. Bush was a man of honor and dedicated the better part of his life to the service of our country.  We don't make them like him any longer.

Rest in peace Mr. President!

Curt

 

Amen to that.

---------

Dr. Joseph V Russo

josephvrusso@outlook.com 

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

VEry Nice. Reminds me of the videos of Robert Kennedy and the trip from NYC to Washington DC.

Also when the train was pulling out, did anyone see the one RR worker  to the right of the train stand guard.. as if his soldier training took over. 

Yes, I noticed him, also ... and, if I remember correctly, he tucked his hard hat under his left arm.

Rusty

And as the sunset faded, I spoke to the faintest first starlight.
And I said next time, Next time, We'll get it right!

“By "years back," I mean when the Lionel model came out.  Many folks were adamant that they'd never have one on their layout.”

This is true. I remember my LHS had reduced the price to sell their inventory. I always thought it was a striking paint scheme and regret I didn’t find the means to buy one. I always admired HW’s wonderful sense of humor, he lived an honorable life, RIP Mr. President.

Rich

Diverging Clear posted:
prrhorseshoecurve posted:

VEry Nice. Reminds me of the videos of Robert Kennedy and the trip from NYC to Washington DC.

Also when the train was pulling out, did anyone see the one RR worker  to the right of the train stand guard.. as if his soldier training took over. 

Yes, I noticed him, also ... and, if I remember correctly, he tucked his hard hat under his left arm.

Rusty

I saw that but then noticed his co worker next to him still wearing her hard hat and taking video on her phone. 

Spoony81 posted:
Diverging Clear posted:
prrhorseshoecurve posted:

VEry Nice. Reminds me of the videos of Robert Kennedy and the trip from NYC to Washington DC.

Also when the train was pulling out, did anyone see the one RR worker  to the right of the train stand guard.. as if his soldier training took over. 

Yes, I noticed him, also ... and, if I remember correctly, he tucked his hard hat under his left arm.

Rusty

I saw that but then noticed his co worker next to him still wearing her hard hat and taking video on her phone. 

Not saying it's right or wrong but there are different rules for women wearing hats then men - women are not required to remove head coverings when in church or addressing the flag.  This compensation has been offered because of the additional needs women sometimes have (hat pins, bobby pins, etc) in securing hats compared to men.

Additionally, seeing the hundreds to thousands of common citizens lining the route who also were taking cell phone video and not removing hats/caps, while I also noticed the woman railroad worker I didn't think it necessary to single her out.  High respect, however, for the way her co-worker showed his.

turbine posted:

I'm waiting on Lionel's diecast rendition of the bush funeral train, I would shell out the premium for it.

This is the roster as it ran:

UP 4141 EMD SD70ACe
UP 9096 EMD SD70AH
1) UPP 2066
2) UPP 8008 City of Portland
3) UPP 9009 City of San Francisco
4) UPP 5769 Council Bluffs
5) UPP 101 Lone Star
6) UPP 9004 Harriman
7) UPP 302 Overland
8) UPP 1610 Portola
9) UPP 5011 City of Denver
10) UPP 9005 Walter Dean
11) UPP 119 Kenefick

Would be best offered as separate sale items since the UP Challenger and Excursion sets had several of the cars.

 

Wendell

TCA 05-58634

I was fortunate enough to see it in person as I'm from Spring. The crowds were amazing. Not a single protest or uproar anywhere. Everyone was very respectful of everyone else. I also have an O scale MTH 4141 so I pulled the Polar Express under my Christmas tree with it last night.

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