UP 4141, George HW Bush

I told my wife last night about the prices on the *bay. She said as with the Beanie Babies and Cabbage Patch Kids and the like, It's supply and demand for this particular time and people can ask what ever they want. My son told me a lot of years back about the baseball cards he had and what they were worth. I told him "They're only worth what people are willing to pay".   

Chris

Yeah, I noticed that price as well on the bay for Lionel's 4141.  I was fortunate that I ordered Lionel's 6-83019 UP Excursion Passenger 2-pack which included the "Flag Car" when it was available.  Living in UP land it was just a something I just had to have - I love it!. 

Due to the current economic conditions the light at the end of the tunnel has temporarily been turned off.
cerbyg posted:

By the time they could design, manufacture, ship and deliver a set like this, the nostalgia would be gone....especially at the price they would charge.

BTW...I have both the Lionel 4141 engine and the matching caboose MIB.  I ordered it when it was first introduced.  At the time, I wasn't sure why I bought it.  But now I know.

I was able to grab the Lionel caboose (MTH didn't release one in Premier) off eBay a couple of years ago (none of the Heritage cabooses are prototypical, but you gotta love 'em).  I'm glad I got it as I haven't seen one for sale since and given the prices a couple of sellers are asking for 4141 I can only imagine how inflated the caboose price is.

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The price people are paying for them is crazy. I bought my lionel for $450 and got the caboose from a forum member for a great price. I'm glad I have them. Athearn and Kato are both re-issuing theirs in HO and N scale respectively and it sounds as tho Lionel will reissue theirs as well. People need to slow their roll.

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Lyle posted:

Just listed and announced. MTH is reissuing 4141 due sometime 2019.

Link? I just went to the site and found no reference. Hopefully, they will release it in two-rail also.

Later Gator,

  Dave

 

Here comes a Yankee with a blackened soul,
Heading to Gatow with a load of coal.
......Anonymous U. S. pilot during the Berlin Airlift

With so many forum threads about this topic already, I'm just going to pick this one to post so as not to step on the MTH thread. As noted on the Ryan and Dave show last week, Lionel will be releasing a special set to honor 41. We are currently in the final stages of preparing the Volume 1 catalog, and with the new tooling planned for the set, we won't be able to show it until later in 2020. Normally we keep pretty quiet about future releases, but this train has been the most requested I've seen in the past 5 years and being in the Christmas spirit, here's an early Christmas present for you all! 

We will re-release 4141 both separate sale and as part of a full set. Powered and non-powered versions are also planned for those who may just want to have this as a show piece. The set will include four cars, three of which will require new or modified tooling: City of Portland (new dining interiors for the dome), Council Bluffs (open doors and interior of course!), Overland (StationSounds diner), and Kenefick (all new business car tooling.)  As a special train, this set will include figures in the interior of all cars and special sound recordings for the diner and locomotive. Also available will be additional SD70AH's (9096 as well as two others, 9069 (led the advance train) and 9088 (paired with 1943 on some trips last year) and additional separate sale cars to complement this or the other UP cars released previously and expand your trains. 

Too early to give a price or availability date at this time. As mentioned, this has been one of the most requested items in recent memory so we want to take the time to do it right, and do justice to the prototype and of course the esteemed President himself. He deserves nothing less. Thank you to all who have reached out with your suggestions and comments.

On a completely separate note, but knowing that a comment from one of us always sparks a round of questions: we are very busy in the warehouse this week, everyone from Howard on down the line, working to get as much out to you all in time for Christmas as possible. We are still receiving 3 to 5 inbound containers daily and working to turn shipments as fast as possible. There are too many items to list here, but all of the remaining LEGACY diesels and LionChief Plus NW2s, the 1930 Broadway Limited and Salad Bowl Express sets, oodles of 18" passenger cars, train sets and more are all expected to be out the door before Christmas. The Moguls have returned from the factory. Customer Service will be checking each one and then sending them back to the original owners - they will likely return to you shortly after the new year.

Unfortunately, that's all the update I have time for as there are Broadway Limited sets in the warehouse awaiting and lunch time is over. Thank you all for making 2018 a fantastic year for us here at Lionel. We are already looking forward to what next year has in store (I've seen the catalog - there's some pretty cool stuff in there!!!) and wish you all a safe, happy, train-filled Merry Christmas!

Ryan Kunkle

Director of Production, Lionel LLC

Conrail6358 posted:

With so many forum threads about this topic already, I'm just going to pick this one to post so as not to step on the MTH thread. As noted on the Ryan and Dave show last week, Lionel will be releasing a special set to honor 41. We are currently in the final stages of preparing the Volume 1 catalog, and with the new tooling planned for the set, we won't be able to show it until later in 2020. Normally we keep pretty quiet about future releases, but this train has been the most requested I've seen in the past 5 years and being in the Christmas spirit, here's an early Christmas present for you all! 

We will re-release 4141 both separate sale and as part of a full set. Powered and non-powered versions are also planned for those who may just want to have this as a show piece. The set will include four cars, three of which will require new or modified tooling: City of Portland (new dining interiors for the dome), Council Bluffs (open doors and interior of course!), Overland (StationSounds diner), and Kenefick (all new business car tooling.)  As a special train, this set will include figures in the interior of all cars and special sound recordings for the diner and locomotive. Also available will be additional SD70AH's (9096 as well as two others, 9069 (led the advance train) and 9088 (paired with 1943 on some trips last year) and additional separate sale cars to complement this or the other UP cars released previously and expand your trains. 

Too early to give a price or availability date at this time. As mentioned, this has been one of the most requested items in recent memory so we want to take the time to do it right, and do justice to the prototype and of course the esteemed President himself. He deserves nothing less. Thank you to all who have reached out with your suggestions and comments.

On a completely separate note, but knowing that a comment from one of us always sparks a round of questions: we are very busy in the warehouse this week, everyone from Howard on down the line, working to get as much out to you all in time for Christmas as possible. We are still receiving 3 to 5 inbound containers daily and working to turn shipments as fast as possible. There are too many items to list here, but all of the remaining LEGACY diesels and LionChief Plus NW2s, the 1930 Broadway Limited and Salad Bowl Express sets, oodles of 18" passenger cars, train sets and more are all expected to be out the door before Christmas. The Moguls have returned from the factory. Customer Service will be checking each one and then sending them back to the original owners - they will likely return to you shortly after the new year.

Unfortunately, that's all the update I have time for as there are Broadway Limited sets in the warehouse awaiting and lunch time is over. Thank you all for making 2018 a fantastic year for us here at Lionel. We are already looking forward to what next year has in store (I've seen the catalog - there's some pretty cool stuff in there!!!) and wish you all a safe, happy, train-filled Merry Christmas!

Fabulous news! Thank you Ryan (and the whole Lionel team) for listening to the customers. This will surely make tons of people happy. I may pick up a 4141 once it arrives. Until then, I'm excited to see the next catalog, you have my hopes up!

Maxrailroad posted:
Fabulous news! Thank you Ryan (and the whole Lionel team) for listening to the customers. This will surely make tons of people happy. I may pick up a 4141 once it arrives. Until then, I'm excited to see the next catalog, you have my hopes up!

While it's great Lionel is listening to you guys, did you happen to notice this line:

"We are currently in the final stages of preparing the Volume 1 catalog, and with the new tooling planned for the set, we won't be able to show it until later in 2020."

As I understand the line, be prepared to snuggle down for a 2 year wait, minimum.

Rusty

 

I'm not asking this to tick people off or sound funny, but will a O scale casket come with that passenger car, given it's a set for the funeral train?

Someone I work with who's not into model trains but loved Bush 41 as a President, was asking me yesterday, as he'd found notes on the models of UP 4141 in a Google search...

Although I wish I had a layout - I don't. Maybe someday I will but for now I'm just a an autograph collector and Presidential buff. I would like to buy one of the soon to be produced reissues of teh Bush 4141. Which is a better display unit? The Lionel or the MTH? I imagine that Lionel is preferable because of the history associated with it. Which unit has better detail and looks more realistic? If anyone wants to see my collection - please look at TheKaplanCollection.com

 

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