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RickO posted:
Hot Water posted:

Gee, they make it sound like it is the replacement for the original 250 ton crane, that was run off the end of the overhead rails and then hauled off to scrap, after it hit the ground. 

When did that happen?  1976?

I think it was 1979. They ran the big crane off the end of the rails, prior to the installation of the new, north wall of the reduced size back shop.

Kelly Anderson posted:
Hot Water posted:
EBT Jim posted:

Very intelligent move by the UP steam shop.

Bob Krieger was there and said it was a 40 ton. Nothing wrong with getting an overly stout hoist. 

True, but how did the previous crews maintain 8444/844, and then 3985, since 1979 without such a crane?

By working a lot harder and slower than they would have had to if the crane had never been removed.

Well Kelly, have you ever been to that shop and worked in it? Personally, I thought they always did extremely well without that big 250 ton overhead crane. Also, when the drop-ceiling was installed, with all the additional lights and heaters, the shop became a VERY comfortable work environment, even in the harshest Wyoming winters. They had a number of post mounted jib cranes, plus some good sized motorized larger indoor cranes. If really heavy lifts were required, the big 200 ton over-the-road Mechanical Department Cline truck, stationed there in Cheyenne was readily available.

Since there was no longer any real need to pick up a complete boiler, or engine, with the 250 ton overhead crane, that loss was no big deal. With the big 90" to 100" drop table, any and all running gear work was was easily accomplished within a VERY well lighted and heated shop.

Hot Water posted:
"True, but how did the previous crews maintain 8444/844, and then 3985, since 1979 without such a crane?"
 
Well Kelly, have you ever been to that shop and worked in it? Personally, I thought they always did extremely well without that big 250 ton overhead crane. Also, when the drop-ceiling was installed, with all the additional lights and heaters, the shop became a VERY comfortable work environment, even in the harshest Wyoming winters. They had a number of post mounted jib cranes, plus some good sized motorized larger indoor cranes. If really heavy lifts were required, the big 200 ton over-the-road Mechanical Department Cline truck, stationed there in Cheyenne was readily available.

Since there was no longer any real need to pick up a complete boiler, or engine, with the 250 ton overhead crane, that loss was no big deal. With the big 90" to 100" drop table, any and all running gear work was was easily accomplished within a VERY well lighted and heated shop.

That said, why the condescending attitude in your first post:

"Gee, they make it sound like it is the replacement for the original 250 ton crane, that was run off the end of the overhead rails and then hauled off to scrap, after it hit the ground. The new crane is only 40 ton capacity, but still might be hand for "light work"."   ???


Who ran the 250 tonner off the end?

 

Wow. So let me get this straight.  With an overhead crane that is always instantly available, can move quickly from one side of an engine to the other, and ready to lift up to 80000 lbs with the quick addition of a couple slings, you are less productive than you would have been if you had just drove over, set up and positioned a mobile crane or rigged a fork lift. So it’s  logical that it would save even more time and labor every time I don’t use that overhead crane and then break out, setup the mobile crane or forklift, make the lift, then put the mobile crane or fork lift back where it came from.  Since they still have the drop table adding a new overhead crane doesn’t help make the crew any more efficient either. I’ve got it straight now. Thank you for explaining that!!

Hot Water posted:
RickO posted:
Hot Water posted:

Gee, they make it sound like it is the replacement for the original 250 ton crane, that was run off the end of the overhead rails and then hauled off to scrap, after it hit the ground. 

When did that happen?  1976?

I think it was 1979. They ran the big crane off the end of the rails, prior to the installation of the new, north wall of the reduced size back shop.

Do those rails have a "stop" or a "bumper" at the end?

Dominic Mazoch posted:
Hot Water posted:
RickO posted:
Hot Water posted:

Gee, they make it sound like it is the replacement for the original 250 ton crane, that was run off the end of the overhead rails and then hauled off to scrap, after it hit the ground. 

When did that happen?  1976?

I think it was 1979. They ran the big crane off the end of the rails, prior to the installation of the new, north wall of the reduced size back shop.

Do those rails have a "stop" or a "bumper" at the end?

The ones I have seen have stops clamped or welded on at the end of the rail.

trainroomgary posted:

Union Pacific is pioneering autonomous drone infrastructure inspection technology with the help of a California start-up. Just to make sure the Big Boy can cross aging bridges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...ature=em-uploademail

Gary

This has nothing to do with the new UP crane or even Big Boy, UP is going what a lot other RR’s and State Dept of Transportations are doing which is going to Drones to make infrastructure visual inspections safer and easier. 

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