10/6/18 Layout Update, Search light signals working and CTC Signal System Complete

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Mike...the layout looks great!!! I really like your track plan and the trestle is very nice. Since you are in the general area of our group, the Mid-America 3-Railers, I would like to see you join us! No dues so it won't cost a thing! Dennis Brennan lives not far from you and he just became a member. Please let me know if you are interested...e-mail me via my profile.

Thanks,
Alan

Nice work! Is the trestle a kit or scratch built?

George

I have not put any pictures up recently.  The layout is starting to look pretty respectable.  

 

I started with the RR track plan below (24' x 15') back in Dec '10 and completed most of the bench work with tracks and switches wired (DCS and TMCC) by the end of Feb '11 ( also completed most of the scenery on the mountain).

 

The summer of '11 came with nothing else started until Dec'11, when I installed my trestle.  Since then, I have put the remainder of my river in, created more pink snow around the entire house (from pink foam shaping), put down most of the ballast with a dirty wash, along with a skirt attached.

 

I think I have a little over 80% of my scenery roughed.  

 

I used Patrick H's method of carving the foam and Dennis B. fake water approach (painted shower door glass) on the large part of the river.

 

Shown below are many of the various stages in the layouts construction to present day.

 

Mike

Wow Mike absolutely superb craftsmanship, it looks awesome. Please keep us udated

with your progress. GREAT WORK!

 

Thanks, Alex

Mike I smell an OGR feature article,very Impressive! Keep us posted and may I say very inspriring work.

Mike

 

WOW!  That is very good work.  I will add this thread to ones I check out to steal...er I mean look at your work.  Very nice!

Mike, I have no words! Too bad I live in Brazil so far, because I would like to see this wonderful person!

Congratulations, by design, the work, all fantastic!

Terrific layout, superb scenery design and workmanship.

 

thank you for all the photos

 

Mike,

 

Your layout looks great!

 

What did you use for the retailing wall in the water scene?

 

Dave

Well, I most certainly hope so!  We're ready whenever Mike is ready (and willing)!

All

 

Thank for nice comments!  I am a slow worker and wish I had more progress.  I am very jealous at what others have completed on this forum in short order on several of the larger layouts.   

 

David,

 

Regarding the wall, I cut the wood with a friends table saw to create the protruding edge of the wall and then glued them to masonite for the back edge.  It looks convincing from the front, but added the top cap to conceal the top edge.   When painted with several coats of spray gap filler, the vertical seam in the piling was created by scrolling an edge in to the filler.  

 

 

Allan,

 

Not sure how much of the layout needs to be finished for an article (is it ever finished?), but would love to  participate.  I have a ton of images showing from the start to present day for my layout.  Let me know.

 

Mike

Uh, AWESOME!!! I really like the sea wall. If you get an article going for OGR please consider adding a how to on constructing the wall. What color did you use?

Mike....the layout is absolutely beautiful.  You have done a wonderful job on all aspects of the scenery.  Thanks for the update and pictures!!

 

Alan

Great Job! I only wish that mine will be half as nice when I get to start working on in real time!

Mike,

 

Your layout is looking great and you are doing an excellent job!

 

All the details are very nicely finished, but two items in particular caught my eye: the retaining wall by the lake, and the passenger platform between the tracks. Very well done!

 

Thank you for sharing.

 

Alex

The color used on the wall is camouflage brown from rust oleum 

Top notch scenery work! It looks really good.  Very creative with regards to the sea wall. 

Mike,

 

Awesome layout! Thanks for the scenery update, fantastic! 

 

Bruce

Mike,

 

Thanks for the tip!  I plan on doing a small water scene, with retaining wall, in the very near future.

 

Dave

You are an artist!

 

- walt

Amidilly,

 

That  really came out sweet! 

Awesome vision and execution.  That is inspirational.  My favorite is the water.  The ripples and the color are perfect.  How did you do that, if I may ask?  Then the trestle bridge.  Your plan rocks too, with the seperate yard outside the main layout.  I love it!  I thank you for sharing your talent.  Again, it is inspiring.  Have fun, work at your own pace.  I have built enough to know that everything takes time, especially when you expect the caliber of work you are after.  Enjoy

Mike:

 

It certainly does not need to be completed (no layout is truly complete anyhow).  Just needs to have enough done to provide images so about 15 or so can be used in the magazine.

 

And in the process of building your layout, you may employ some how-to techniques that might make for good articles over and above a layout feature (a step-by-step covering how to build a retaining wall, for example).  We can always use more nicely illustrated how-tos features.

 

When you're ready, just contact me by phone or e-mail and I'll give you all the assistance I can.

Mike,

 

You have done fantastic and everything looks excellent. Great Job! 

Your layout is incredible Mike!

What did you use for track...I see curved turnouts. Ross/Gargraves?

Yup I used Ross turn outs .  I should have learned my lesson on my first layout in struggles of certain engines having electrical problems over curved turn outs.   I learned the hard way that two of my articulated engines (lionel alleghaney and mth cab forward ) cannot make it physically through the o72/o96 turn out (the o72 route, it seems just add tadd too tight, I am not sure if it is what lionel would call o72).  Not enough room on the layout to correct with a different switch.  Try to avoid curved turn outs.

With the curved turnouts (we have a #8 curved on our layout) you have to wire in the closure rails (rails between the points and the frog) as alternate hot rails using a set of SPDT contacts on a tortoise switch motor. This will prevent stalling by locomotives with incompatible pickup roller spacing. If you're using Z-stuff switch motors, add the Z-stuff SPDT relay to the control. Also, make sure that both sets of stock rails are properly tied to common. This approach is also advisable on longer straight turnouts (#6, #8, #10) as well.

 

BTW, Mike, love the work on the layout. Looks great. Also like the sea wall construction technique -- first rate.

I finally have an update to post on my layout.  I completed my dam for my river.   When I was designing it, I was not thinking about how much water it would control but more of the general look.  After looking at tons of pictures to model it after, I gave up and sketched my own design to build off of.  I was excited to get started, only after it was built, did I realize that it can only regulate a bit more than a foot of water.  The time a little project like this seems to take always seems more than it should.

 

The weathering leaves something to be desired, I tried dry brushing it.  While it looks better than no weathering, I could be so much better.  If any one had any recommendations for books on air brushing, I would like to read them.

 

Just now drawing my own plans for my icing station that will service 6 cars from between two tracks.  I have been struggling on finding pictures to help me with this also.  I would love to see any ones pictures to get some other ideas.    

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, the realism and detail is fantastic...thanks for sharing.

Mike,

   Congrats on a fine job, I enjoyed the pictures very much!  The lake is fantastic.

PCRR/Dave

Mike, I've heard of others using shower door glass for water, but I must say your rendition is the best I have ever seen. The color is just right. I am new to this so "that ain't sayin much". But wow, nice job!

Well done!

Peter

Mike,

 

That sheet pile wall came out great. The whole layout is awesome. I also like the railroadiana around the room. 

Mike

You do some fine work. I enjoy the pictures. I hope I can copy Patrick's cutting method at least half as well as you have.

Larry

Simply amazing! Keep up the great work.

Your series of progressive shots as you progressed are most interesting.  I also commend you on your impressive work.

I just want to add to the compliments you have received about your layout Mike. There is a lot of thought, creativity and attention to detail that went into this layout. The dam is an example of this.

 

Seeing the early photos of your benchwork and following the progress through your updates makes me appreciate all the work that has gone into this layout. Thanks for sharing.

 

Steve Tapper  

Looks great!  Please post more pictures.  The wall and dam are very well done.  Maybe a safety line and buoys behind the dam?  rubber wine corks painted orange? 

Amazing; great craftsmanship. Love the lake & dam.

I love the guy in the inner tube below the bridge.  the dam came out great.  first I have seen anybody do that. a great idea.  The design is great for the room.  you can see all the angles and easy to access parts.  it makes me think on how to design my 2 car garage layout because I have the center post.  Super detail!  thanks for sharing

Chris

The rock and water really came out fantastic Mike. Great Job

 

 

I am sure this old hat for many of you, but I was pretty excited on an area my wife and I completed over the last couple of weekends (been a while since any progress on layout).  We picked up one of the tippi foam cutters to build walls with a brick pattern 24' long (3, 8' long sections ) for the back of layout.  I think they came out really nice.

 

Staring with the pink foam Pattern

Giving them a texture with round handle dents and melting off the shark edges of bricks

Painting them dark grey and then working in rubbed light grey in certain areas for a more weathered look along with some green scenery grass

 

 

 

Area before the walls were placed

 

After installation

 

Incredible.  I just saw the whole thread for the first time.  The water, dam, retaining wall - all of it top notch.  I saw the demo on the tippi foam cutter - looks like it works better than advertised. 

 

 

Thanks for sharing.

Mike....those walls look fantastic!

 

Alan

Looks Awesome Mike!

Hi Mike,

 

That looks fabulous, well done just like all of your work!!!!!!

 

Thanks,

Alex

Hey Mike,

 

Well done! The new walls look very real. The layout is surely coming along nicely. Thanks for posting.

 

Alex

Tippi foam cutter.  going to watch it

 

Chris

 

can you show me more on this step?

 

"Giving them a texture with round handle dents"

 

Killer work all over!!

You are coming along just fine Mike. A really nice layout with many interesting features - you should be proud!

Thanks for the update Mike. Your walls as well as the layout look outstanding. Great work!

Thanks for nice comments all.

 

J Daddy

 

Here is an example before the sharp edges are taken off of the pattern (I just roughed in the pattern for a test piece

With tool there are many tips, I use the bigger loop shown below

 

I drag the loop centered in the mortar edge shown below.

My first pass shown above, is  a little sloppy.  Once you start doing it, you get feel for how fast to draq the tool across, not long enough, not enough gone, too slow, and you end you end up melting huge holes.  I did a few more passes shown below.  I think the key to this is that there is none of the original plane left of the foam, just texture.

 

Then I randomly hit the surface with round edge, I used my dry wall saw handle for this.

ONce  a few random dents are placed, the results are shown below

 

 

Mike, Thanks for showing me you "secret" I am going to try this one out.

I carved my foam the same way you did, and I needed that stone surface look, I added drywall compound, then painted it. but I am going to try you method.

Thanks!

J daddy i like your wall also, different look.   

 

i use ross switches and gar graves flex track.

Wow, am I glad I came to this sub-forum, today, for the first time! This whole thread is a gift of information, and the layout is spectacular ! You have created a very happy place which appears exactly suited to your smile. So, I am very happy for your success, Hump Yard Mike. Thanks for sharing the whole experience with us here. It is especially inspiring to see the obviously measured care and careful planning you exercised throughout.

FrankM.

I too just came across this thread. Mike I want to thank you for sharing the step by step process with both excellent prose and photographs.

 

I have very little experience with detailed scenery and this is exactly what I am looking for to help the STBL (Soon to be layout)

 

Love the detail and as Joe mentioned the railroadiana looks great.

 

all the best,

 

Paul

Fabulous job Mike!  I love the lake and dam and the brick wall too.  Turning into one heck of a layout.

 

Thanks for sharing.  First time I saw this thread.  I'll make sure to keep checking back.

Just completed my small town on my layout (well almost complete, still missing windows and interior lights).  My layout theme was not really set up to have a down town, so I made it into one of my corners.  Only room for one way streets in this town.  A series of progress shots are shown below.

 

My wife Leah did both of the three story buildings and the red two story in the front row (Ameritown kits).

 

 

 

 

Hope to have the rest of the icing area completed soon.

You do not mess around. Every post is a joy to see. Very inspiring. Nice work.

Very nice job Mike! You've done a magnificent job on this project.

 

Steve Tapper

It's been a while since you posted. Almost forgot how beautiful your layout is.

Mike, 

 

Just curious, how do you get to these remote areas of the layout to work on them? The layout looks great.

Very great work!  I especially like your "water."  My only suggestion, with the greatest respect, remove the pictures off of the walls or much better put up a back-drop so that the visual integrity of your scene is not disrupted by a life-sized painting.

 

I have seen so many amazing layouts with absolutely outstanding scenery that was "tarnished" by objects in the background, i.e., destroying the visual integrity of the scenery.

 

Even a simple back-drop of pale blue if preferable to nothing.

 

REGARDLESS, your work is fantastic!

I would like to know what you do to the pink foam after you lay it out to make it look so realistic?

 

That corner looks great Mike.  You and your wife did a fine job on those buildings.

 

Thanks for the update.

It would be very difficult to build this in the corner, so I actually built the entire module on my work bench and just placed it into the corner.

 

Regarding the sidewalks and street, I cut the sidewalk out of Masonite and painted them solid white, and then dusted them with brown and then grey paints, so they appear speckled(as described Dennis Brenan's hi rail book).  To finish them up, they were scored to give them sidewalk relief cracks.   These were then glued onto the painted pink foam.

 

The streets are plumbers putty tinted with black to give the light grey color.

 

 

MIKE REALLY NICE WORK HERE. THANKS FOR SHARING THE PHOTO'S

Hi Mike,

 

You and your wife, are turning out some really beautiful scenes, your entire layout is simply awesome and very well done. !!!

 

Hope too see you guys at York!!!!

 

Alex

You and I both are very fortunate to have wives that are into the hobby!  My wife does awesome painting.  I wish that I had the artist touch.  Really great work!

super job on the ameritown buildings one of the best jobs i have seen

Mike.....really exceptional work! Well done.......I look forward to seeing more....

 

Peter

PS:  That scene in your corner is very well done!  Best of all it "hides" the corner on the wall.  I always try to "round" where and when I can.  Going for easy on the eye!

Mike, 

 

Your work is first class! What a pleasure to follow along. I look forward to more updates.

 

Andy

Curious:  What are the bricks made from?

John,

 

The bricks are carved in pink foam.  If interest, earlier in this thread I show my technique

Thanks for the nice comments, it is really fun to look back at the older posts and see where you have come from.

 

For 2 years now I have been threatening to complete my icing facility.  I finally settled on using the Altas O ice house and built my own double track icing platform from scratch (except the Shack).  The reason for the two platforms is that the lower platform is used to unload ice for stocking the ice house and the upper platform would be used to load the cars, who knows if this is how they really did it..  The ice blocks move back and fourth by a motor, check it out on the utube link.  With all of that, I just got it placed and landscaped last weekend.  I am really pleased with how it came out.

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH7aO7ts7ac&feature=youtu.be

 

 

The korber switch tower was also recently completed.  My first building kit and first time using the brick motor.  A rough interior was also constructed for it. 

 

 

I tied the recently completed corner city scene into the rest of the layout with some additional landscaping and also completed a tunnel cutaway on the other side of the layout.  The MOW crew came by to complete some switch point work and a frog build up repair.

 

 

After a 2 year search for the perfect piece of furniture that is short and not too overwhelming to the layout where I can just enjoy the trains, I found it last weekend at a 2nd hand store for next to nothing.

 

 

 

If I could figure out an industry scene by the river, I would be set

 

 

 

Ice house looks good.  I like the lighting on the platform.

 

Thanks for the update.

EXCELLENT TRACKWORK, KEEP IT UP! TURN THE COUCH AROUND TO ENJOY THE TRAINS!

I really like the workers on the platform shoveling the ice.

Mike....the layout is coming along nicely.  World class work that you and your wife are doing!  I like all of it and have really enjoyed following your updates...

 

Alan

 "If I could figure out an industry scene by the river, I would be set" Give us a pix of the area in question, I'm sure with your talent and this group we can come up with something unique!    Russ

 

The siding I need an industry for is shown below, starting off as 12" wide, widening to 15" and roughly 3' long.  I plan to swap out the hellgate sometime in the future with lift bridges.  Considering using a curved 072/54 switch off of the mainline lead for two stub ended tracks.

 

A river dredge and sand harvesting facility was a thought.  I also have thought about some kind of crane that I might automate (something larger and more customized than the standard magnetic crane from lionel), not sure of the industry.  I had also thought about a Griffin Rail Wheel manufacture, where raw materials could come off of a river barge. 

 

Any ideas here would be appreciated 

Mike... beautiful pictures!!  I like the idea of a barge and sand dredge...

 

Alan

"I like the idea of a barge and sand dredge..." I agree, some kind of barge, coal, scrap metal recycle maybe.  An overhead dockside crane with clam shell bucket.  Going to be a great scene whatever you do.  Russ

 

How about a WW2 Victory Ship off loading tanks, ammo, etc.?

Outstanding job Mike! You did an awesome job with your water! Looks so realistic!

 

Steve Tapper

Awesome landscaping!  The USS Jeremiah O'Brien Liberty ship (located out here in San Francisco) would be a good one to model!  Matt

Thanks for the suggestions all, please keep the ideas coming.

 

John,

 

Hope you had a good time with the train group.

 

Mike

 

 

Such a beautiful layout.  I hope mine is half as nice as your layout.

Here is the US Tampa still preserved and going out on a scenic tour this May in Florida...

 

Here are some other ideas: