New Vision Line Challenger back from Lionel after repairs and the articulated chuffing fix.
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now thats what it should have sounded from the get go! Did you place your engines out of sync or did Lionel do that for you?
Laidoffsick posted:now thats what it should have sounded from the get go! Did you place your engines out of sync or did Lionel do that for you?
They had to remove one of the wheel sets that was damaged so they must have changed the synchronization as well.
Well Lionel stepped up and should be recognized but in the end it should have been right to start with. It’s got to be getting old and expensive.
Thanks for the video.
Are the crew talk sounds the same?
MDuppy posted:Are the crew talk sounds the same?
I don't know because I don't remember what the crew talk was before I sent it in. However, as returned, the crew talk still calls out the 3985 engine number. One of the dialogs mentions Green River (WY) if that's any help.
Thank you the crew talk was not changed and I can send mine back to get reprogramed.
JFC454 posted:New Vision Line Challenger back from Lionel after repairs and the articulated chuffing fix.
Did Lionel take care handling the train in there repair shop? I want to send my ones in but I am concerned about scratches etc. I want the train to be scratch free when it comes back. So I am looking for feedback from people who sent their ones in
sahan posted:JFC454 posted:New Vision Line Challenger back from Lionel after repairs and the articulated chuffing fix.
Did Lionel take care handling the train in there repair shop? I want to send my ones in but I am concerned about scratches etc. I want the train to be scratch free when it comes back. So I am looking for feedback from people who sent their ones in
I don't think it is Lionel you have to worry about, it's the shipping companies. When my engine was returned it was packed in a very large box loaded with styrofoam peanuts. Inside was the engine in the shipping box I had used to send the engine back. That box had a 3" gaping hole in the side that caused the Vision Line box to be crushed. One of the corners of that black box was crushed also. There had been some sort of serious impact that the box had suffered on the way to Lionel. Despite the rough treatment given by the shipping, there were no cosmetic damages that I could see. Unfortunately two of the tender marker lights don't work anymore. I do not doubt that they were working when Lionel shipped the engine back. I believe that some of the damages we see in our trains are due to rough treatment during domestic shipping.
JFC454 posted:sahan posted:JFC454 posted:New Vision Line Challenger back from Lionel after repairs and the articulated chuffing fix.
Did Lionel take care handling the train in there repair shop? I want to send my ones in but I am concerned about scratches etc. I want the train to be scratch free when it comes back. So I am looking for feedback from people who sent their ones in
I don't think it is Lionel you have to worry about, it's the shipping companies. When my engine was returned it was packed in a very large box loaded with styrofoam peanuts. Inside was the engine in the shipping box I had used to send the engine back. That box had a 3" gaping hole in the side that caused the Vision Line box to be crushed. One of the corners of that black box was crushed also. There had been some sort of serious impact that the box had suffered on the way to Lionel. Despite the rough treatment given by the shipping, there were no cosmetic damages that I could see. Unfortunately two of the tender marker lights don't work anymore. I do not doubt that they were working when Lionel shipped the engine back. I believe that some of the damages we see in our trains are due to rough treatment during domestic shipping.
I understand. That is my other concern. I am trying to find a box which I can use to double box these. Due to the size of the lionel shipping carton its hard to find one that would fit it. Do you know where to buy one? I looked at home depot and they don't have one. Not at UPS store and Fedex office either.
Can you let us know if the other sounds like the steam whistle are the same. My Challenger has the same sounds as the Big Boy and I like the effect.
sahan posted:JFC454 posted:sahan posted:JFC454 posted:New Vision Line Challenger back from Lionel after repairs and the articulated chuffing fix.
Did Lionel take care handling the train in there repair shop? I want to send my ones in but I am concerned about scratches etc. I want the train to be scratch free when it comes back. So I am looking for feedback from people who sent their ones in
I don't think it is Lionel you have to worry about, it's the shipping companies. When my engine was returned it was packed in a very large box loaded with styrofoam peanuts. Inside was the engine in the shipping box I had used to send the engine back. That box had a 3" gaping hole in the side that caused the Vision Line box to be crushed. One of the corners of that black box was crushed also. There had been some sort of serious impact that the box had suffered on the way to Lionel. Despite the rough treatment given by the shipping, there were no cosmetic damages that I could see. Unfortunately two of the tender marker lights don't work anymore. I do not doubt that they were working when Lionel shipped the engine back. I believe that some of the damages we see in our trains are due to rough treatment during domestic shipping.
I understand. That is my other concern. I am trying to find a box which I can use to double box these. Due to the size of the lionel shipping carton its hard to find one that would fit it. Do you know where to buy one? I looked at home depot and they don't have one. Not at UPS store and Fedex office either.
Build your own - you have to go cardboard hunting - you can find large pieces of heavy cardboard behind tile/flooring stores and appliance stores.
I happened to have a box from a new folding golf cart that was barely large enough for the Lionel shipping carton with the loco box inside (factory). I mean that it had enough room on all side for shipping peanuts. Something like 40" long by 12" x 12" or 14" x 14".
Moonman posted:sahan posted:JFC454 posted:sahan posted:JFC454 posted:New Vision Line Challenger back from Lionel after repairs and the articulated chuffing fix.
Did Lionel take care handling the train in there repair shop? I want to send my ones in but I am concerned about scratches etc. I want the train to be scratch free when it comes back. So I am looking for feedback from people who sent their ones in
I don't think it is Lionel you have to worry about, it's the shipping companies. When my engine was returned it was packed in a very large box loaded with styrofoam peanuts. Inside was the engine in the shipping box I had used to send the engine back. That box had a 3" gaping hole in the side that caused the Vision Line box to be crushed. One of the corners of that black box was crushed also. There had been some sort of serious impact that the box had suffered on the way to Lionel. Despite the rough treatment given by the shipping, there were no cosmetic damages that I could see. Unfortunately two of the tender marker lights don't work anymore. I do not doubt that they were working when Lionel shipped the engine back. I believe that some of the damages we see in our trains are due to rough treatment during domestic shipping.
I understand. That is my other concern. I am trying to find a box which I can use to double box these. Due to the size of the lionel shipping carton its hard to find one that would fit it. Do you know where to buy one? I looked at home depot and they don't have one. Not at UPS store and Fedex office either.
Build your own - you have to go cardboard hunting - you can find large pieces of heavy cardboard behind tile/flooring stores and appliance stores.
I happened to have a box from a new folding golf cart that was barely large enough for the Lionel shipping carton with the loco box inside (factory). I mean that it had enough room on all side for shipping peanuts. Something like 40" long by 12" x 12" or 14" x 14".
Fed Ex has a golf bag box (on their website) that is 48 X 15 X 15.
JFC454 posted:. Unfortunately two of the tender marker lights don't work anymore. T I do not doubt that they were working when Lionel shipped the engine back. I believe that some of the damages we see in our trains are due to rough treatment during domestic shipping.
Make sure the marker lights are just not turned off via Cab 2 lighting menu.
John Rowlen posted:Sounds are good. Cab looks like it tilts slightly. Now the tender marker lights are out. 3 inch gaping hole in the box. That's a lot of money to let shippers ruin a beautiful engine.
Which brings us back to......If lionel made these correctly from the get go the risk of shipping damage is substantially reduced.
Duncan H W Foster posted:Can you let us know if the other sounds like the steam whistle are the same. My Challenger has the same sounds as the Big Boy and I like the effect.
It should sound like the bigboy.
FWIW, the real UP Challengers, Bigboys ,and FEF Northerns, all use the same Hancock 3 chime whistle.
MartyE posted:JFC454 posted:. Unfortunately two of the tender marker lights don't work anymore. T I do not doubt that they were working when Lionel shipped the engine back. I believe that some of the damages we see in our trains are due to rough treatment during domestic shipping.Make sure the marker lights are just not turned off via Cab 2 lighting menu.
I wish it were something simple like that. There is one rear marker light that is lit on the left side which responds to commands from the remote. The high middle one and the right hand rear marker light are out. All three worked when I sent it in for other repairs. When I took the tender shell off it looks like both of the dead lights are on the same end of the circuit board. The socket for the right hand light is barely attached to the board.
sahan posted:I understand. That is my other concern. I am trying to find a box which I can use to double box these. Due to the size of the lionel shipping carton its hard to find one that would fit it. Do you know where to buy one? I looked at home depot and they don't have one. Not at UPS store and Fedex office either.
As others have said, build your own. I have to do this regularly for Ebay shipping. Get an large/extra large box at Home Depot (or two of them and stack them for extra length, use a box cutter to crease the box (minimum depth crease) to the size you want, and start taping (including along the creasing cuts). I use a good quality wide masking tape. The process takes some time, but you'll get the size you need.
mashinter posted:Moonman posted:sahan posted:JFC454 posted:sahan posted:JFC454 posted:New Vision Line Challenger back from Lionel after repairs and the articulated chuffing fix.
Did Lionel take care handling the train in there repair shop? I want to send my ones in but I am concerned about scratches etc. I want the train to be scratch free when it comes back. So I am looking for feedback from people who sent their ones in
I don't think it is Lionel you have to worry about, it's the shipping companies. When my engine was returned it was packed in a very large box loaded with styrofoam peanuts. Inside was the engine in the shipping box I had used to send the engine back. That box had a 3" gaping hole in the side that caused the Vision Line box to be crushed. One of the corners of that black box was crushed also. There had been some sort of serious impact that the box had suffered on the way to Lionel. Despite the rough treatment given by the shipping, there were no cosmetic damages that I could see. Unfortunately two of the tender marker lights don't work anymore. I do not doubt that they were working when Lionel shipped the engine back. I believe that some of the damages we see in our trains are due to rough treatment during domestic shipping.
I understand. That is my other concern. I am trying to find a box which I can use to double box these. Due to the size of the lionel shipping carton its hard to find one that would fit it. Do you know where to buy one? I looked at home depot and they don't have one. Not at UPS store and Fedex office either.
Build your own - you have to go cardboard hunting - you can find large pieces of heavy cardboard behind tile/flooring stores and appliance stores.
I happened to have a box from a new folding golf cart that was barely large enough for the Lionel shipping carton with the loco box inside (factory). I mean that it had enough room on all side for shipping peanuts. Something like 40" long by 12" x 12" or 14" x 14".
Fed Ex has a golf bag box (on their website) that is 48 X 15 X 15.
Where do you see a golf bag box on Fedex website? I checked but could not find it. They have all standard size boxes from what I see there.
breezinup posted:sahan posted:I understand. That is my other concern. I am trying to find a box which I can use to double box these. Due to the size of the lionel shipping carton its hard to find one that would fit it. Do you know where to buy one? I looked at home depot and they don't have one. Not at UPS store and Fedex office either.
As others have said, build your own. I have to do this regularly for Ebay shipping. Get an large/extra large box at Home Depot (or two of them and stack them for extra length, use a box cutter to crease the box (minimum depth crease) to the size you want, and start taping (including along the creasing cuts). I use a good quality wide masking tape. The process takes some time, but you'll get the size you need.
I guess this is the thing to do. Will take a lot of time since I have not done it before. As long as the train and visionline box is protected I don't mind.
