Hi Folks,
I captured a clip from a video this morning from a live-streamer at Walt Disney World:
Looks like a conduit of some sort, perhaps for signalling? Or is there a big center rail roller?
Take care, Joe.
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Hi Folks,
I captured a clip from a video this morning from a live-streamer at Walt Disney World:
Looks like a conduit of some sort, perhaps for signalling? Or is there a big center rail roller?
Take care, Joe.
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@Joe Rampolla posted:I captured a clip from a video this morning from a live-streamer at Walt Disney World:
Looks like a conduit of some sort, perhaps for signalling? Or is there a big center rail roller?
. . . or perhaps it's a pulling cable, like the SF cable cars, and all the huffing and puffing is just a gigantic smoke unit? Just sayin' . . .
Looks like PVC or gal conduit for signal wiring. Notice the signal box in the lower right corner of the video.
They're not live steam, it's all simulated.
Joe, I moved this to the real trains forum....certainly not a topic for the 3-rail traditional forum!
@gunrunnerjohn posted:They're not live steam, it's all simulated.
I beg to differ. The locomotive shown in the video *IS live steam. There was an earlier video showing trial runs after the RR had been dormant for awhile that shows that same loco taking on water (into the tender) from that same water tower, not simulated. In that video you can hear the steam powered compressor chuffing and in this video you can see the exhaust in time to what would be that same 2 beat chuff of the compressor. Also in this video, the engineer gives the single toot stop signal and that's not dry ice vapor coming out of the whistle. I can't speak for all the WDW RR equipment but this loco most certainly is live steam.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:They're not live steam, it's all simulated.
OPPS Beg to differ with you this one time John. I took the behind the train startup up tour and they have live steam in Walt Disney World. They showed us the shop and how they start up cold engines to prepare them for running in the park. Was a great tour but VERY HARD TO BOOK as it is always SOLD OUT!
Must be conduit for signaling as I do not remember even seeing the so called third rail between the tracks.
Curtis
Yes, they are live steam however they run off of diesel fuel.
@NJCJOE posted:Yes, they are live steam however they run off of diesel fuel.
Well, they may BURN "diesel fuel", but they run off of steam pressure.
I also have been on the 5:00 am tour and they are diesel fueled, like most modern-day Steam units and Steam driven. There is no 3rd rail. The video shows an electronic cable.
I'm shocked, so much fake stuff at Disney that I was sure this was included.
I'm shocked, too! I thought it ran on olive oil and garlic !
Well, I didn't know how they were powered, but I do know that the folks at Strasburg had worked on at least one Disney engine that was in the shops in 2019. Saw that in the shop tour but no pictures were allowed for privacy reasons to their clients.
If you guys are still in doubt, I’ll be down there in March and can check it out for you? Maybe they run on pixie dust.
@superwarp1 posted:If you guys are still in doubt, I’ll be down there in March and can check it out for you? Maybe they run on pixie dust.
Make sure you stock your wallet, check the prices nowadays!
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Make sure you stock your wallet, check the prices nowadays!
Yeah, it’s crazy. We plan on only doing one day at the parks. It’s mostly sitting by the pool and doing a few spring training games.
The locomotives are REAL steam locomotives. They are old, but well maintained by Disney mechanical forces as well as outside contractors. The last time I was at the locomotive shops at Disney in Orlando, I ran into Scott Lindsay, who was there doing some work on one of the locomotives. Scott was Chief Mechanical Officer on the 611.
NOTE: I edited my own post to remove a political comment. I also deleted a couple of relevant follow up posts.
It is interesting that these are diesel fired steam engines. Are they much different from oil fired steam engines?
I think John and others are confused with the trains at Animal Kingdom that are diesel engines disgused as british built steam engines.
Dave, from my perspective "Oil" in reference to engine motivation is a shortcut name for "Diesel". Crude oil is distilled into a variety of products including Gasoline, Diesel, Jet Fuel, Lubricants, and chemicals, etc.
Almost all modern Steam engines have been revamped to use Diesel because of Government air quality emissions rules.
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