We need a Union Pacific TTT Class in O Scale!

The engines pictured in the first and fifth photos are, in fact, 4-10-2 (FTT) -- there's another wheel on the front pilot lurking just at the trailing edge of the steam piston.  Here's the loco database information on each:

http://www.steamlocomotive.com...mp;railroad=up#13994

You'll see both the 8804 and the 5098 included in the number lists.

It turns out that the 8804 was one of a class of 10 FTT locos that had three cylinders - if you squint hard you can see the front edge of the center cylinder just over the lead wheel of the pilot on the 8804.  Interesting, as I thought the famous UP 4-12-2's were the only three cylinder locos UP had (which I got to see, hear and feel as a kid in NE)...

Here's the locobase link for the TTT's

http://www.steamlocomotive.com...10-2&railroad=up

As you noted, the last UP TTT is stored in Cheyenne -- there are eight other 2-10-2 locos, including two that are operational (Iowa Interstate's two chinese built locos) - here:

http://www.steamlocomotive.com...USA&wheel=2-10-2

richs09 posted:

The engines pictured in the first and fifth photos are, in fact, 4-10-2 (FTT) -- there's another wheel on the front pilot lurking just at the trailing edge of the steam piston.  Here's the loco database information on each:

http://www.steamlocomotive.com...mp;railroad=up#13994

 

I do see that lurking wheel. I did this from my phone, I need to open my eyes a bit more. I will remove the pictures

keep the pictures, change the title...!   Suggesting either as a possible new loco seems like a good idea -- since I'm an S-gauge modeler, neither will affect me, unless Lionel wants to add to their S-gauge repertoire.

I wouldn't have known about the three-cylinder 4-10-2's had you not (mis)posted the pictures, leading me to look them up

The real problem with getting a 3-Rail manufacturer to produce a model of either the 2-10-2 or the 4-10-2, is; they can't offer it for any other railroads. Maybe Sunset/3rd Rail would tackle such a model (they already produced the magnificent SP 4-10-2 3-cylinder models, some years ago), what with the lower production requirements now (possibly under 100 models). 

Found one on eBay...a little expensive though😂

LoganUP1982 posted:

Found one on eBay...a little expensive though😂

Thats what sparked this topic. Id buy that but the whole drive would have to be upgraded

Hot Water - I'm probably missing your point, I think.  According to the link I posted above - and again here: http://www.steamlocomotive.com...USA&wheel=2-10-2  there was a ton (bad pun intended) of Santa Fe-type locos (aka 2-10-2) built - 2179 owned by 44 different railroads.  So to the extent that having an engine in your favorite RR livery helps drive sales (a topic for which I claim no expertise) then you'd think offering a TTT loco wouldn't be out of the question.  By contrast, for the widely modeled 4-8-4 locos only 1126 (slightly more than a half a ton...) were built and owned by 36 railroads.

- Rich

richs09 posted:

Hot Water - I'm probably missing your point, I think.  According to the link I posted above - and again here: http://www.steamlocomotive.com...USA&wheel=2-10-2  there was a ton (bad pun intended) of Santa Fe-type locos (aka 2-10-2) built - 2179 owned by 44 different railroads.  So to the extent that having an engine in your favorite RR livery helps drive sales (a topic for which I claim no expertise) then you'd think offering a TTT loco wouldn't be out of the question.  By contrast, for the widely modeled 4-8-4 locos only 1126 (slightly more than a half a ton...) were built and owned by 36 railroads.

- Rich

Since the original post was specifically referring to a Union Pacific TTT Class, just because many, MANY other railroads had the same wheel arrangement locomotives, i.e. the 2-10-2, doesn't mean that ANY of them even remotely LOOKED like the UP 2-10-2.

That would be something good to see.

Id love to have one of these models in the future with the Young Valve gear. Another engine to dream about owning in O scale.