The City of Port Arthur, Texas has sold their park display locomotive, Louisiana & Arkansas No. 503 for scrap. That fact was not learned until it had already been sold, and now a bunch of railfans/modelers/railroaders etc. are getting together and pooling our money to purchase the locomotive and move it to someplace safe.
The danger is real as the scrapper has about 3 weeks to remove the locomotive from the property so we are all scrambling to come up with a solution. More information is available at the link below. We raised over $6,000 since last night from everyday people like you and me who could throw from $20 to 50 or more toward the effort. Could you also help us out on this?
I don't know about you, but I don't want to see more photos of steam locomotive scrappings taken on this continent.
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I donated what I could this morning. While "we can't save them all" in the preservation arena, it would be wrong to see a steam locomotive in relatively good cosmetic (and apparently possibly mechanical) shape get scrapped almost 100 years after it was built. I hope things go well for this engine and that we'll see it in a new home soon.
Are the people who decide to scrap everything without public input or notice even elected in a fair vote?
Andrew
Just donated, hoping all ends well.
I say scrap the politicians . . .
Almost $15,000 raised so far! We have a very good chance of actually pulling this off, but still need more help! Please, if you haven't given yet, make a contribution to the effort. And if you scroll down through the donor list you will find yourself in very good company!
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...and now up to $18,000. Please help if you can!
Jason has been broadcasting live daily via his Facebook page and telling and showing a lot about the locomotive, answering many questions (https://www.facebook.com/That-...Guy-319972281379363/). If it wasn't for recent heavy rain, Jason says the locomotive would have been scrapped LAST week. Time is short.
Are there 100 people in Texas with $300 to $500 each to help with the cause?
Anderw
Just did what I can do to help with a donation.
Side Rod
deadline is TODAY. Please help. $10,000 needed...
IMMEDIATE GOAL:
Raise $50,000 to purchase the locomotive from the city's contractor and move it to the Texas State Railroad for interim storage. The locomotive is currently slated for demolition and scrapping in the next few days!
THE PLAN:
1) Purchase the locomotive from the contractor hired to perform the demolition and fund the move of the locomotive out of Port Arthur.
2) Place the locomotive under the care of a non-profit organization dedicated exclusively to its ongoing rehabilitation.
3) Finalize arrangements for the use of a restoration facility and restore the locomotive operation via funding provided through donations and from The Royal Palm Railway Experience which is operated by the Orlando and Northwestern Railroad in Florida.
4) Move the locomotive to Florida for long-term operation with the Orlando and Northwestern Railway. This is a campaign to save a locomotive that does have a future! These funds will accomplish the purchase from the scrapper and the initial move from the park to the Texas State Railroad.
Just donated something toward it! There is no reason she needs to be scrapped, and it's a great plus that the contractor doesn't seem interested in scrapping her, either!
I just donated as well. Scrapping a steam locomotive in 2018 should never happen. Where is the respect of history sometimes?
UPDATE 2/20: OUR GOAL HAS CHANGED AND DEADLINE EXTENDED! Inland Environment had inititally priced the scrap value for no. 503 at $20,000.
After performing their own appraisal, they now value the locomotive and tender at $35,000!
Broken down, our projects costs are now:
$35,000 to Inland Environment for the purchase
$10,000 to Over-the-Top Construction for trucking
$20,000 for cranes
Our deadline for raising funds is now February 28th! A purchase agreement for the locomotive will be signed on February 21st.
OUR IMMEDIATE GOAL:
We're raising $65,000 to purchase the locomotive from the city's contractor and move it to the Texas State Railroad for interim storage. The locomotive is currently slated for demolition and scrapping in the next few days! The locomotive and display site must be disposed of by March 6th, 2018.
OUR PLAN:
1) purchase the locomotive from the contractor hired to perform the demolition and fund the move of the locomotive out of Port Arthur
2) place the locomotive under the care of a non-profit organization dedicated exclusively to its ongoing rehabilitation.
3) finalize arrangements for the use of a restoration facility and restore the locomotive operation via funding provided through donations and from The Royal Palm Railway Experience which is operated by the Orlando and Northwestern Railroad in Florida.
4) move the locomotive to Florida for long-term operation with the Orlando and Northwestern Railway.
This is a campaign to save a locomotive that does have a future! These funds will accomplish the purchase from the scrapper and the initial move from the park to the Texas State Railroad.
I, Jason Sobczynski, will handle the disbursement of the funds raised to the owner of the locomotive for the purchase of the artifact, to the trucking company for the transportation of the artifact to the Texas state Railroad, and to the crane companies which will be utilized to load and unload the locomotive and tender.
Following the creation of the trust which will care for this locomotive, ownership of the locomotive will be transferred to the trust for $1.
Any left over monies from this campaign will be given to the trust along with the locomotive.
If we are unable to fund the immediate purchase and movement of 503, all donations will be refunded or forwarded to a railroad preservation organization of the donor's choice.
Wow.
Way to move the goal posts.
On the "Roundhouse Podcast", where I first heard of this effort, Jason Sobczynski told the host, Nick Ozorak that his "worst case" scrap value for the engine delivered as finished scrap at the yard would be approximately $17,700. This new figure is double that.
I've already made a small contribution. Unfortunately I cannot give any more at this juncture.
I wish them luck.
Scrapp Is at a real low.... 60.00 a ton.. So whats that engine weigh?
Don't believe that much in scrap value based on current market.
SantaFe158 posted:UPDATE 2/20: OUR GOAL HAS CHANGED AND DEADLINE EXTENDED! Inland Environment had inititally priced the scrap value for no. 503 at $20,000.
After performing their own appraisal, they now value the locomotive and tender at $35,000!
That is a 75% increase in the estimated scrap value! Is that possibe or even reasonable ????
(Corrected percentage increase!) DOH!
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How about that.....Inland Environment is gonna make a killing on this Loco and they won't even have to turn a key.
Maybe they'll push the "value" to $50,000 before the end of the extension.
aterry11 posted:Scrapp Is at a real low.... 60.00 a ton.. So whats that engine weigh?
Reportedly about 190,000 in its present condition.
Don't believe that much in scrap value based on current market.
Exactly, especially since it is NOT "processed scrap", i.e. SOMEONE needs to expend LOTS of money to "cut it up"!