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lol@ "little collection" comment by Daniel @FRENCHTRAINS 

I missed out on showing anything last week because I was saving my pennies for this weeks "new to me " items

First up I am kind of proud of these because they are my first true "Big Boy" British Hornby carriages , and what a pair to start out with !!! ...

Nut & Bolt construction Pullman & Dining/Saloon coaches ... one from the early period ( 1921-22) being Green & Cream with gold lined windows and fixed doors ( not opening as in later iterations) and the other about 1924 as it has opening latching doors .

These have had some restoration but remain very much period , with roof touch ups etc ... but for something emering their 100th year shortly are indeed pretty nice ... Sourced locally here in Aus

Fixed door Pullman

 

Underside showing Meccano Nut & Bolt construction ..

Later opening door Pullman

Probably not meaning too much to anyone else , but to me these were kinda "Holy Grail" territory so I was very chuffed to grab them

While I was feeling rather pleased with myself I also brought home another very early Hornby

A King George the Fifth Clockwork locomotive ( with a non correct tender , but I wasnt quibbling because its also a hard to get one)

The King George was released as an evolution of the Tinplated Train Line that kicked Hornby off in 1920

This looks to be a later transitional George as it has the front coupler( earlier version)  and no wheel connecting rods ( also earlier runs) but is fitted with the non-reversing motor , so that puts it firmly 1923-25 I would think , but nevertheless a handsome model and harking from the very early days of Hornby ...

It has been a GOOD week!

Stay safe everyone!

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@Fatman, those coaches are very nice. My collection target is much more recent,mth 2816 hoppers.   In regards to single sale cars, this was one of the last two I needed. Not readily available,  but not quite Holy Grail category either. 

This is mth 10-8023.

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I had been looking for this for a few months and couldn't find anything.  Then one showed up as a group of five cars and another that was way overpriced.   After another couple months of on and off negotiations and a world wide pandemic,  I was finally able to acquire one in like new condition for a great price.  Now, if anyone has an mth 11-70014 olive green hopper w/brass trim available in good shape,  please let me know!😃

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I really love the MTH/Ives 3236 engines and cars. They were only offered once in the 2007 Tinplate Catalog (My all time favorite tinplate catalog). Over time I have managed to find 4 out of the 5 that were offered. I am still missing the Crackle Red. The red cars are not MTH they are restored Ives originals. This is the first time all 4 of my sets have been home.
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Fatman posted:

lol@ "little collection" comment by Daniel @FRENCHTRAINS 

I missed out on showing anything last week because I was saving my pennies for this weeks "new to me " items

First up I am kind of proud of these because they are my first true "Big Boy" British Hornby carriages , and what a pair to start out with !!! ...

Nut & Bolt construction Pullman & Dining/Saloon coaches ... one from the early period ( 1921-22) being Green & Cream with gold lined windows and fixed doors ( not opening as in later iterations) and the other about 1924 as it has opening latching doors .

These have had some restoration but remain very much period , with roof touch ups etc ... but for something emering their 100th year shortly are indeed pretty nice ... Sourced locally here in Aus

 

 

Probably not meaning too much to anyone else , but to me these were kinda "Holy Grail" territory so I was very chuffed to grab them

While I was feeling rather pleased with myself I also brought home another very early Hornby

A King George the Fifth Clockwork locomotive ( with a non correct tender , but I wasnt quibbling because its also a hard to get one)

 

 

 

The King George was released as an evolution of the Tinplated Train Line that kicked Hornby off in 1920

This looks to be a later transitional George as it has the front coupler( earlier version)  and no wheel connecting rods ( also earlier runs) but is fitted with the non-reversing motor , so that puts it firmly 1923-25 I would think , but nevertheless a handsome model and harking from the very early days of Hornby ...

It has been a GOOD week!

Stay safe everyone!

Hello @Fatman those Hornby are nice , and they are not so common ones to find, they still look nice and if it is the models that sold in your country last week I was thinking to bid on one... as you I do not have a perfect matching set, one with door and the other without.... but I am pleased with them; a transitional set in imagination ....

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A few news in the collection.

Kraus Fandor Tank car with automatic coupler

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Fandor decoupler

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Brimtoy a green warehouse, here together with a other Brimtoy and a Bing in the middle.

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Last week I had found a Carette custon house, but needs some repair.

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For the missing fence, I have made a mold

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Drilling the holes in the fence posts

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A new fence made with tin

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Arne

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MNCW posted:
Arne posted:

A few news in the collection.

Last week I had found a Carette custon house, but needs some repair.

zoll03

For the missing fence, I have made a mold

Drilling the holes in the fence posts

zoll10

A new fence made with tin

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Arne

Arne,

 Beautiful casting work.

Tom

Arne,

Nice job on the fence.

Will you be repainting the building as well?

If so mask of the windows and doors.

That way you'll still have the original graphics but the building walls will be fresh.

Well here are my newest tinplate acquisitions.  Fatman, I must admit that they are at least in part, FRENCH Hornby, at least as far as I can determine.  The loco is an O-4-0 steam tender type. It appears to be a No 1E Special supplied with a 20 volt motor.  It is marked as S.N.C.F and 20 v on the smoke deflectors at the boiler front.  In addition, its French heritage is indicated by "Serie Hornby" embossed in the lower edge of the boiler front.  This was one of the "new look"  No 1 French engines introduced in 1933 with twin domes, high running plates,cylinders that were castings, and automatic couplers were fitted on the front. It was available in Est. flat brown among other colors.  However after 1938 post French nationalization the No 1 was also available marked S.N.C.F and there were less expensive versions (of which this may be one) with the 20V mechanism offered.  Mine has a manual reverse, which may make it one of the less expensive versions as remote reverse was offered from 1934.

Here is the loco by itself.  It is a long way from perfect,however the neat thing is that it runs great.  Although a 20 volt motor and my ZW only puts out about 18 it ran fine, even the headlight came on.  Manual reverse also works.

French Hornby No 1 loco side view

Now here is the defiantly NOT French consist that come with the loco.  These are No 1 LNER Hornby coaches.  These were most likely made between 1949 and 1951 although the basic design and lithography dates back to 1934 when they went from 3 compartments with opening doors to 4 compartments and fixed (actually just lithographed) doors. Tinplate wheels date the car to before 1951 (after which the wheels were plastic) but the fact that the sheet metal on either side of the journal box was not punched out dates them to post 1949.  So French engine but English consist... French Hornby actually also made coaches similar to the No 1 but the color schemes were very different.

 

Hornby LNER [brown) coaches

Here is my new engine pulling its consist of 3 LNER coaches.  Which it did easily on my flat oval layout.  I was surprised in one sense, the engine only has one power pick up, yet unlike many of my Lionel short wheelbase locos, it had absolutely no trouble going over the switches.  Go figure!

 

French Hornby No 1 loco with consist

One more picture.  Besides the 3 LNER coaches which are "wood brown" and which may complement the loco more, the set came with 3 LMS coaches in a maroon livery.  These are a little later in that they have plastic wheels which means they are post 1951 however they do have the matt black frame which means they are pre 1958 when the frame switched to glossy black.  These really look a little nicer (my wife's opinion) which is why they are on the display shelf

French Hornby Loco and LMS Coaches

Anyway I have 3 of these coaches as well so the loco can have its choice. 

So that has been my tinplate weekend so far...having a great time.  Fatman, if you have any data on this loco please post.  I spent much of an afternoon with my one Hornby reference and I am still not sure I have it right. 

Don McErlean

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It's going to take me awhile to get used to this.  I logged into the Tinplate Forum, didn't see Chris's dependable-as-the-sunrise post and courtesy of COVID, got to worrying about his health...and then I remembered - whew, what a relief!

  First Row: Bing ca 1910, Fandor ca 1918, Marx - post war, Ives - early 20's 

  Second Row:  Ives - late 20's, American Flyer - mid 30's and Lionel mid 30's

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  I guess you could say this is an example of how tinplate grows on you over time.

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@Don McErlean That particular loco is not in my wheelhouse ( yet... lol ) but its certainly on my "want" list

I have seen these produced after the war as well , I have not extensively researched them much tho

They are sometimes referred to as "OVA" locomotives.

From what little research I have done I kinda have the feeling yours might be a post war version as seen in the below set

it appeared as late as 1959 in the French Hornby/Dinky Catalogue

https://gibitrains.pagesperso-...gue_meccano_1959.pdf

and on page 6 of this one

http://club-amis-meccano.net/d..._manuel_de_vente.pdf

 I found an image from Clive Lammings as well

HORNBY French trains toys "O" and "HO"

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