Weekend tinplate photos/videos 10/7/16!

Good Morning Tinplate fans.

My offering this week is a set made by Lionel using the 1690/1691 cars.  The interesting thing is that they changed the color and the numbers of the cars.

According to TCA's Lionel  Trains  Standard of the World, 1900-1943  this set was made for Sears and was sold 1936-1938.

The engine is a 1689E

There are 2 1692 coaches

and a 1693 Observation

I think its a very attractive set.

Have a great tinplate weekend.

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

I agree Greg.  It is an attractive set. I have always liked the 1689E locomotive! 

Just before WW II streamlined trains were popular everywhere and also in France. JEP made this small 0 gauge French 3-rail electric streamliner which was not based on any real train; they used the tail car also as head and tail of an internal combustion train (a so called autorail).

Enjoy your tinplate!

Fred

Chris Lonero posted:

I agree Greg.  It is an attractive set. I have always liked the 1689E locomotive! 

 

 

1692 and 1693 Lionels are nice as are the yellow or red Ives 1690 and 1691s made concurrently.

Hello. Some more french JEP trains to add to the thread,

A very nice, maybe one of the most nice steam engine for french tinplate, 1928 with her transformer.

A classic boxcab from 1924 still a great runner piece.

A curiosity, the only representation of a diesel engine, very shortened, half the lenght of the original one.

Have a nice tinplate weekend,   Daniel

My only American Flyer Loco ( 3303, I think, 2-4-0) 1121 with 1 red 1122 and 3 1122 blue streak cars. Need to find some side rods for the little engine. You can barely hear the whistle in the engine. 

I hope that brass qualifies as tinplate.  After all it's not plastic and is not diecast.  Here are four of my Right of Way all brass locomotives dating from the early 1990s.  They cost a fortune back then, but I bought mine during the past 10 years after prices had plummeted.  They didn't have flywheels and were not easy to convert to DCS or TMCC. Also purists preferred the die cast details over brass so whoever invested in these wonderful locomotives when they first hit the street never made any return on their investment. But as you may know I operate in the old time tradition--20 insulated blocks and conventional controls.  The locomotives are the Chesapeake & Ohio 2-6-6-2, the Baltimore & Ohio Class KK 2-6-6-2, the Baltimore & Ohio Class EL 2-8-8-0 and the Union Pacific 2-8-8-0.

Here is a Voltamp "high cab" 2100 loco & tender from about 1914 or so. This cab design with the arched window over two square windows is the middle period configuration for this locomotive. The tender is a John Harmon reproduction of an original rare Voltamp design. The wooden top boiler-mounted headlamp is one of two early configurations. Later locomotives had the headlamp placed in the middle of the boiler front.

Here are the 3 sizes of McCoy Electric locomotives. I've included two of the smaller 89's because they are powered differently. The E-2 Cascade is a beast with two motors. The orange and two tone brown have one motor in the same style as the E-2. The blue and cream is a bit of an odd duck. It uses the motor in the truck style like many of the street cars and Wappid Wabbit. Can't imagine it would be a great puller, but have not tried pulling a load because the motors are rather fragile and know to self destruct from zinc pest.

Steve

Hey Steve. Just curious;   What type of motors does the big red cascade have?  thanks.

Chris Lonero posted:

Hey Steve. Just curious;   What type of motors does the big red cascade have?  thanks.

Chris

Most McCoy motors are a near clone of the Lionel STD Gauge motors.

steve

Great post.  Chris has got me hooked on Lionel Lines (new MTH) tinplate.  Every York I buy more.  I am very happy with my New Haven passenger set and my Ives engines.  This section may get me to remove them from the boxes.  I am very thankful to MTH and Lionel for the great Lionel Lines Tinplate.  

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

Great post.  Chris has got me hooked on Lionel Lines (new MTH) tinplate.  Every York I buy more.  I am very happy with my New Haven passenger set and my Ives engines.  This section may get me to remove them from the boxes.  I am very thankful to MTH and Lionel for the great Lionel Lines Tinplate.  

Marty and I are good friends.  Last time Marty was over my house he couldn't get his eyes off the monorail set.  I could here the gears turning as to where he could put it on his layout!  

kinda like the 1689E myself....even if it is a NYC engine....

Hello Tin-platers

It is fun to see everyone's toys ..it would be a boring place if we all collected the same thing .

So today we go back 111 years ...   Christmas season 1905 ...  Lionel was in their 5th year of electric toy train production ...  2 7/8" gauge,  2 rail &  dc operation ( batteries ) .    Each year  Lionel would add a new piece to the catalog to spice up the line up.... for 1905 it was the #1000 passenger car  ( trolley) , it would be their last 2 7/8"  addition. Christmas season 1906  the new 3 rail  2" gauge ...which in reality was 1/8' wider than all other 2" gauge trains  was introduced by Lionel and the 2 7/8" line became collectors items . 

All the 2 7/8"  pieces are 4 wheel , offered in powered and trailer versions , they use a ribbon rail pushed into individual wood ties.   ( snap sectional track would be a huge step forward for  toy train empire building ) 

Lionel was operating out of a small gloried office space during this time period ( 1901-1905 ) so much  of the production was  farmed out to various local shops ....variations abound for the 2 7/8" line as with seasonal production new vendors and improvements annually can be a collectors delight !

Jim Kelly has  written  an excellent article about variations of the   2 7/8"  Converse / Lionel trolley ( #300)   at Tinplate times

http://www.tinplatetimes.com/T...ariations/300var.htm

My # 1000 had not been run in many a decade ... the cloth covered wire had long become uncovered ....so a few quality hours of cleaning and adding "new" old cloth covered wire,   shine brass contacts .... and she springs to life bobbling around the track  ( I think the 4 little suspension springs need a little love to prevent motion sickness from the passengers) . 

Cheers Carey

Carey Williams posted:

Hello Tin-platers

 

It is fun to see everyone's toys ..it would be a boring place if we all collected the same thing .

So today we go back 111 years ...   Christmas season 1905 ...  Lionel was in their 5th year of electric toy train production ...  2 7/8" gauge,  2 rail &  dc operation ( batteries ) .    Each year  Lionel would add a new piece to the catalog to spice up the line up.... for 1905 it was the #1000 passenger car  ( trolley) , it would be their last 2 7/8"  addition. Christmas season 1906  the new 3 rail  2" gauge ...which in reality was 1/8' wider than all other 2" gauge trains  was introduced by Lionel and the 2 7/8" line became collectors items . 

All the 2 7/8"  pieces are 4 wheel , offered in powered and trailer versions , they use a ribbon rail pushed into individual wood ties.   ( snap sectional track would be a huge step forward for  toy train empire building ) 

Lionel was operating out of a small gloried office space during this time period ( 1901-1905 ) so much  of the production was  farmed out to various local shops ....variations abound for the 2 7/8" line as with seasonal production new vendors and improvements annually can be a collectors delight !

Jim Kelly has  written  an excellent article about variations of the   2 7/8"  Converse / Lionel trolley ( #300)   at Tinplate times

http://www.tinplatetimes.com/T...ariations/300var.htm

 

My # 1000 had not been run in many a decade ... the cloth covered wire had long become uncovered ....so a few quality hours of cleaning and adding "new" old cloth covered wire,   shine brass contacts .... and she springs to life bobbling around the track  ( I think the 4 little suspension springs need a little love to prevent motion sickness from the passengers) . 

Cheers Carey

Dang you got lucky Carey! Where did you find that one?

AF 3315 heading north toward the 305 bridge:

PD

Here are some pictures of the 2007 standard gauge layout at Trainfest that I found.  Not the best pictures, but interesting...

Gotta make the doughnuts...

The 1835 epitomizes my philosophy on life.  Simple elegance.  Not too fancy, but done really well.  I really like a super smooth running 1835.  Looks darn handsome pulling some blue baby states, but he's not a show off, just tryin to pay the bills.  Be cordial to the passengers, say hi and goodbye, and keep movin on.

How about that freight yard of 500s!  

That came out great! The cars were made for that spot!

I have spent some time gluing small magnets to the bottom of some plants versus zombie figures and I have placed them in some old tinplate gondolas.

Perfect for Halloween!

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

Great post.  Chris has got me hooked on Lionel Lines (new MTH) tinplate.  Every York I buy more.  I am very happy with my New Haven passenger set and my Ives engines.  This section may get me to remove them from the boxes.  I am very thankful to MTH and Lionel for the great Lionel Lines Tinplate.  

Marty,

I guess we'll see you at the tinplate sales area at York soon! (the day after Isaac's).  I'm in the same boat... I got hooked on the new MTH LTC tinplate and have more of it in boxes than out!  I will take credit for at least starting to put a tinplate only layout together that will be 5' x 9'.  The Hellgate Bridge has already found its spot!

sneak peek:

ed

revisting  my love for the af standard cars,,,got the nifty caboose at pats in wheeling,think all of these cars look good behind the golden state engine,enjoy

I'm a fan of the AF wide gauge cars too. Always liked the color combo of that caboose.  Very nice. 

Thanks Chris -   It was a job lifting it in place. It took my daughter her boyfriend and my self. Over the layout and under the other section.  I am happy how it is turning out. 

stumbled over this Turkish/Japanese tinplate connection this week. The Turkish version has its own logo rather than the Daiya logo. The Comet and Mercury are both Daiya versions from the same stampings.