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Years ago, my display cases were neatly organized, but the collection kept growing. Flyer, Ives, Lionel were on their own shelves, then everything became commingled. Time for a reset. Ives and Lionel are out to be dusted, the Flyer is still on the shelves. There is now enough Ives and Flyer to fill this case. Lionel will get moved into the case with the Dorfan. Gonna take a while, but a long over due project.

Steve

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On German eBay a seller had this locomotive which he called "A large Hornby 0 gauge locomotive"(Große Hornby Spur 0 Lokomotive 4472). Of course it is not Hornby but Bassett-Lowke, but the Bassett-Lowke buyers did not came along, so I bought it. It is a lithographed Bassett-Lowke Flying Scotsman 4-6-2 pacific with running number 4472. Bassett-Lowke made these in the thirties in clockwork and electric; the electric ones were also in the postwar catalog. This is about the most scale clockwork locomotive you can get, but is is tinplate.

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There is a corridor connection to the first car of the train; the crew could be changed during the long non-stop run between London and the North.

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Regards

Fred

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sncf231e posted:

On German eBay a seller had this locomotive which he called "A large Hornby 0 gauge locomotive"(Große Hornby Spur 0 Lokomotive 4472). Of course it is not Hornby but Bassett-Lowke, but the Bassett-Lowke buyers did not came along, so I bought it. It is a lithographed Bassett-Lowke Flying Scotsman 4-6-2 pacific with running number 4472. Bassett-Lowke made these in the thirties in clockwork and electric; the electric ones were also in the postwar catalog. This is about the most scale clockwork locomotive you can get, but is is tinplate.

mceclip1

There is a corridor connection to the first car of the train; the crew could be changed during the long non-stop run between London and the North.

mceclip2

Regards

Fred

AH, the Flying Scotsman, and a Bassett-Lowke - what a find!

sncf231e posted:

On German eBay a seller had this locomotive which he called "A large Hornby 0 gauge locomotive"(Große Hornby Spur 0 Lokomotive 4472). Of course it is not Hornby but Bassett-Lowke, but the Bassett-Lowke buyers did not came along, so I bought it. It is a lithographed Bassett-Lowke Flying Scotsman 4-6-2 pacific with running number 4472. Bassett-Lowke made these in the thirties in clockwork and electric; the electric ones were also in the postwar catalog. This is about the most scale clockwork locomotive you can get, but is is tinplate.

mceclip1

There is a corridor connection to the first car of the train; the crew could be changed during the long non-stop run between London and the North.

mceclip2

Regards

Fred

Outstanding Fred!  It seems Hornby out numbers Bassett Lowke 10-1.  That or B-L is just that much more sought.  Either way they are a really nice train and that is a wonderful loco.

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Years ago, my display cases were neatly organized, but the collection kept growing. Flyer, Ives, Lionel were on their own shelves, then everything became commingled. Time for a reset. Ives and Lionel are out to be dusted, the Flyer is still on the shelves. There is now enough Ives and Flyer to fill this case. Lionel will get moved into the case with the Dorfan. Gonna take a while, but a long over due project.

Steve

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no sympathy on your problem Steve.....you have a beautiful collection.

sncf231e posted:

On German eBay a seller had this locomotive which he called "A large Hornby 0 gauge locomotive"(Große Hornby Spur 0 Lokomotive 4472). Of course it is not Hornby but Bassett-Lowke, but the Bassett-Lowke buyers did not came along, so I bought it. It is a lithographed Bassett-Lowke Flying Scotsman 4-6-2 pacific with running number 4472. Bassett-Lowke made these in the thirties in clockwork and electric; the electric ones were also in the postwar catalog. This is about the most scale clockwork locomotive you can get, but is is tinplate.

mceclip1

There is a corridor connection to the first car of the train; the crew could be changed during the long non-stop run between London and the North.

mceclip2

Regards

Fred

magnificent Fred! That is a beauty.

First an update:

I decided on a name for the "What If..." train from a few weeks back.

I live in Wisconsin, less than a mile from the Milwaukee Road's Valley Line that went into the North Woods. During its passenger service days it had several named trains; "The North Woods Hiawatha" (actually pulled by the iconic Hiawatha), "The Fisherman's Special", and others.  So in my imaginary world this is "The Northwoods Weekender".  Northwoods For obvious reasons and Weekender because it made its first run here on the Weekend Tinplate thread.  Thanks for your suggestions.

The contribution for this week is from the archives.  I don't have very much equipment from American Flyer's 3/16 O gauge line but I do have some examples.  I like to have them to show folks the roots of the S gauge line that Gilbert produced after the war.  So here is The Royal Blue:

Flyer also marketed a whistling baggage car to match the Royal Blue.

It sounds a lot like your mother's MixMaster from childhood.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

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Greg J. Turinetti posted:

First an update

The contribution for this week is from the archives.  I don't have very much equipment from American Flyer's 3/16 O gauge line but I do have some examples.  I like to have them to show folks the roots of the S gauge line that Gilbert produced after the war.  So here is The Royal Blue:

Flyer also marketed a whistling baggage car to match the Royal Blue.

It sounds a lot like your mother's MixMaster from childhood.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Hey Greg, would you be able to take some close up pics of your Royal? I could use some shots of the pilot and trailing trucks,side rods, and the underneath. This is my first Flyer engine and I'm in unchartered waters as knowing what I'm looking at as far as Flyer parts...the guy I got this off of sent me a basket case locomotive.....

 

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Just won this to add to my 2800 series beer reefer collection. I was looking for the whole beer train set, but this was my favorite of the cars anyway. There are 3 more beer reefers in the set.

s-l1600

Now if MTH would just ship my 2015 pre-order of the Goetz Brewing reefer. 

Is anyone aware of any 2800 series beer reefers besides the 4 in the beer train set, the Altoona, and the Fort Pitt?

George

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Steamer posted:
Greg J. Turinetti posted:

First an update

The contribution for this week is from the archives.  I don't have very much equipment from American Flyer's 3/16 O gauge line but I do have some examples.  I like to have them to show folks the roots of the S gauge line that Gilbert produced after the war.  So here is The Royal Blue:

Flyer also marketed a whistling baggage car to match the Royal Blue.

It sounds a lot like your mother's MixMaster from childhood.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Hey Greg, would you be able to take some close up pics of your Royal? I could use some shots of the pilot and trailing trucks,side rods, and the underneath. This is my first Flyer engine and I'm in unchartered waters as knowing what I'm looking at as far as Flyer parts...the guy I got this off of sent me a basket case locomotive.....

 

Royal Blue

I think Greg has got us all hooked on AF. 

George S posted:

Just won this to add to my 2800 series beer reefer collection. I was looking for the whole beer train set, but this was my favorite of the cars anyway. There are 3 more beer reefers in the set.

s-l1600

Now if MTH would just ship my 2015 pre-order of the Goetz Brewing reefer. 

Is anyone aware of any 2800 series beer reefers besides the 4 in the beer train set, the Altoona, and the Fort Pitt?

George

"Oh My Gosh!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1-CUlYc6-E

George S posted:

Just won this to add to my 2800 series beer reefer collection. I was looking for the whole beer train set, but this was my favorite of the cars anyway. There are 3 more beer reefers in the set.

s-l1600

Now if MTH would just ship my 2015 pre-order of the Goetz Brewing reefer. 

Is anyone aware of any 2800 series beer reefers besides the 4 in the beer train set, the Altoona, and the Fort Pitt?

George

You did, and I am the reason you had to pay what you did   I was tempted to go a  little more but did not cause of all the other stuff I have been wasting money on.

 

Next one is mine!!!!!!!!  Please

George S posted:
Steamer posted:
Greg J. Turinetti posted:

First an update

The contribution for this week is from the archives.  I don't have very much equipment from American Flyer's 3/16 O gauge line but I do have some examples.  I like to have them to show folks the roots of the S gauge line that Gilbert produced after the war.  So here is The Royal Blue:

Flyer also marketed a whistling baggage car to match the Royal Blue.

It sounds a lot like your mother's MixMaster from childhood.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Hey Greg, would you be able to take some close up pics of your Royal? I could use some shots of the pilot and trailing trucks,side rods, and the underneath. This is my first Flyer engine and I'm in unchartered waters as knowing what I'm looking at as far as Flyer parts...the guy I got this off of sent me a basket case locomotive.....

 

Royal Blue

I think Greg has got us all hooked on AF. 

I ended up with a pilot and a couple of trailing trucks in a recent lot I picked up.  Also have a 561 K5 "kit" for you  I'll catch up with you off line since you need some more projects lol

Dennis Holler posted:
George S posted:
Steamer posted:
Greg J. Turinetti posted:

First an update

The contribution for this week is from the archives.  I don't have very much equipment from American Flyer's 3/16 O gauge line but I do have some examples.  I like to have them to show folks the roots of the S gauge line that Gilbert produced after the war.  So here is The Royal Blue:

Flyer also marketed a whistling baggage car to match the Royal Blue.

It sounds a lot like your mother's MixMaster from childhood.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Hey Greg, would you be able to take some close up pics of your Royal? I could use some shots of the pilot and trailing trucks,side rods, and the underneath. This is my first Flyer engine and I'm in unchartered waters as knowing what I'm looking at as far as Flyer parts...the guy I got this off of sent me a basket case locomotive.....

 

Royal Blue

I think Greg has got us all hooked on AF. 

I ended up with a pilot and a couple of trailing trucks in a recent lot I picked up.  Also have a 561 K5 "kit" for you  I'll catch up with you off line since you need some more projects lol

:popcorn:

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George S posted:
Dennis Holler posted:

Beautiful loco Daniel!

Next time I get a significant amount of disposable income, Marklin is on my list. I will definitely "settle" for something as beautiful as Daniel's reproduction!

George

Ha, how about I trade you a Marklin  R890 for that Ole Frothingslosh reefer   Just kidding

Dennis,

I know you and I shop the same places and was hoping you missed this one. We both have that Goetz reefer on order. 

You would have never beat me on this one. I set my snipe bid so high it almost gave me a nose bleed. I was very happy with where the price landed considering what I paid for the Altoona and Ft. Pitt.

I have my eye out for you on these. I only need one of each. I'll let you know if I see another.

George

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Not nearly exotic as most of the Motive Power and Rolling Stock posted under this topic but nevertheless this nicely restored Lionel 251 Box Cab Electric runs and tracks extremely well.  Its freight consist is made of an original Oil Tank Car and original Hopper while the Gondola, Automobile/Furniture Car and 817 Caboose are restorations.IMG_1609IMG_1610

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Here is the B-L Clockwork Flying Scotsman surrounded by other Hornby and Bing locomotives and rolling stock. This is an older photo when some of my Right of Way locomotives shared space on my Wall of Trains.  Since then I acquired more cabinets and the Right of Way locomotives have moved into another area.  I hope that many of the O Gauge Forum members will visit my collection in June. Sign up for Tour 18 at the National Convention of the TCA.  Lew SchneiderB-L Flying Scotsman

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lewrail posted:

Here is the B-L Clockwork Flying Scotsman surrounded by other Hornby and Bing locomotives and rolling stock. This is an older photo when some of my Right of Way locomotives shared space on my Wall of Trains.  Since then I acquired more cabinets and the Right of Way locomotives have moved into another area.  I hope that many of the O Gauge Forum members will visit my collection in June. Sign up for Tour 18 at the National Convention of the TCA.  Lew SchneiderB-L Flying Scotsman

If my health lets me, I'll be there. Look forward to visiting some of my X-toys.

Steve

 

I got a wild idea to run all of my O gauge tinplate at once today (well almost all of it). I didn't get the O27 and a few cabooses on the track and may have missed a gondola. My AF 1681 gave it her best, but wasn't quite up to the task with the heavy MTH 2800 series cars added. So, I needed to bring in more power from the engine shed. Here she is! No. 1604, all twenty wheels of her!

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Here she is coming around the bend!

To facilitate this folly, I made a coupler adapter from a broken Lionel latch coupler and an extra AF hook coupler. The AF hook fits right into the Allegheny tender knuckle coupler.

George 

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George S posted:

Just won this to add to my 2800 series beer reefer collection. I was looking for the whole beer train set, but this was my favorite of the cars anyway. There are 3 more beer reefers in the set.

s-l1600

Now if MTH would just ship my 2015 pre-order of the Goetz Brewing reefer. 

Is anyone aware of any 2800 series beer reefers besides the 4 in the beer train set, the Altoona, and the Fort Pitt?

George

ah ha ,,,,your the one,,,hahaha,thought about bidding since it was made down the street from me,,glad you won<"the pale stale ale ,with the foam on the bottom"

Dennis Holler posted:

IMG_3176IMG_3177IMG_3178Since George didn't let me win the Ole Frothingslosh reefer 😮 I was messing around and came up with this based off a Lionel 1719 boxcar and the side of a Bing Schlitz reefer.

I keep thinking about what Arnie has done with custom tin printing and making his own cars.  

 

Looks great Dennis! Crazy, I was thinking the same thing today! I looked around for some decals, but yours looks better. If you use glossy or satin photo paper, it will look just like litho.

I was also thinking about doing this with the American Flyer 3000 Series litho freight cars. They are almost unattainable in good shape. If I can get good photos of them, it would be doable.

Where did you get the photo of the Bing car?

George

Greg J. Turinetti posted:
Pine Creek Railroad posted:

 

GJT,

   Always wanter a Royal Blue, gray Tin!

PCRR/Dave

The #553 is a great looking engine too.

I use this photo on note cars that I had made.

I use one of my #553s to head one of my "What If...." trains.

The Scarlet Letter Carrier

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

so would that make this a grey blue,,or a blue grey,i had a royal blue,someone gave me when I was and teenage,,didn't know what it was ,dang ,wish I had that now,,,

Robert S. Butler posted:

Here you go George

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Personally, if I was going to do something like that I'd go after some of the great billboard reefer designs that Atlas has turned out...like

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Thanks Robert! Those are beautiful, including the Atlas ones. Atlas made some beer reefers too, and the Natty Boh one just sold for over $300 on eBay. That's a lot of money for some plastic that was made so recently! It's almost like Bitcoin. 

George

terry hudon posted:
George S posted:

Just won this to add to my 2800 series beer reefer collection. I was looking for the whole beer train set, but this was my favorite of the cars anyway. There are 3 more beer reefers in the set.

s-l1600

Now if MTH would just ship my 2015 pre-order of the Goetz Brewing reefer. 

Is anyone aware of any 2800 series beer reefers besides the 4 in the beer train set, the Altoona, and the Fort Pitt?

George

ah ha ,,,,your the one,,,hahaha,thought about bidding since it was made down the street from me,,glad you won<"the pale stale ale ,with the foam on the bottom"

That's right Terry, and ”Hippety-Hops Makes It Tops"! I have the eight colored Miss Frothingslosh cans to match this. You know Miss Frothingslosh "was chosen on the basis of her beauty, talent, poise, ... and quantity."

Robert S. Butler posted:

George,

  Oh yes, almost forgot - here's the Bing car - as you can see Dennis reworked the side to give it the balanced look of the

   real thing.

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Atlas

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Awesome! That's one I really want. By the way, that Bing car was recently listed on eBay for $1200 and maybe not in as nice of condition as the one you show.

George

 One nice thing about getting to visit people and photograph some of their collection is that one eventually has a backlog of pictures of excellent examples of lots of different trains.  I've forgotten when I took the picture of the Schlitz car but it was several years ago and, to date, it is the best picture I have of the uncensored version.

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Robert S. Butler posted:

  Dennis, that's been my impression.  As I understand it far more Bing beer cars made it to U.S. shores after prohibition than before the beginning of WWI which would suggest fewer uncensored than censored.

For those of us following along and asking "What is a censored Bing beer car?" I found this from Robert.

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Here is the thread with the other cars too. Now, I really like the Pabst car!

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...to-s-video-s-3-16-17

George

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George S posted:
Robert S. Butler posted:

  Dennis, that's been my impression.  As I understand it far more Bing beer cars made it to U.S. shores after prohibition than before the beginning of WWI which would suggest fewer uncensored than censored.

For those of us following along and asking "What is a censored Bing beer car?" I found this from Robert.

Bing_Car_Reefer_Schlitz_Censored

Here is the thread with the other cars too. Now, I really like the Pabst car!

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...to-s-video-s-3-16-17

George

I'm telling you, a 10-1/4" litho refrigerator car with this type of billboard marking would be really cool.  I doubt there would be enough of a market to make it worthwhile to create and produce some, but it would be really cool.

I haven't put in any real inquiries but some of the on line stuff for custom tin litho runs for signs is requiring 2-5,000 min in qty.  On a sheet the size of the sign, I can get 5 single car sides and ends. So if I had five different cars on the sheet, two sheets gets me 5 unique cars.  2000 sheets would mean 1000 cars of each design logo.  I can't imaging selling that many of each car.  I could probably find someone willing to do a smaller run, but still, the numbers look ugly pretty quickly.  And that does not even discuss getting permission to print the various logos....  Still it is an interesting thought.  Need to print directly to the sheet and laser cut the sides from the sheet...

Dennis Holler posted:

I haven't put in any real inquiries but some of the on line stuff for custom tin litho runs for signs is requiring 2-5,000 min in qty.  On a sheet the size of the sign, I can get 5 single car sides and ends. So if I had five different cars on the sheet, two sheets gets me 5 unique cars.  2000 sheets would mean 1000 cars of each design logo.  I can't imaging selling that many of each car.  I could probably find someone willing to do a smaller run, but still, the numbers look ugly pretty quickly.  And that does not even discuss getting permission to print the various logos....  Still it is an interesting thought.  Need to print directly to the sheet and laser cut the sides from the sheet...

I have a set of James Bond 007 beer cans. They are fakes. The set of originals would cost $14k to $30k if you could find them, and one that I have was never made. They are labels that were cut and glued to straight steel cans. Unless you were holding them, you would have a hard time knowing they weren't real.

For litho cars, the same method should work fine. The problem is that only the Lionel 1719 is a great candidate due to the smooth sides. I hate to destroy good ones, and I don't see a lot of bad ones. The American Flyer 3208 could work, but the sides are not smooth. I see a beat up one available. You could possibly pound out the ribbing. The 3208 is smaller than the 1719 by about an inch.

George

Dennis Holler posted:

George, I agree with your thoughts.  I think it would be pretty easy to get 28 gage or similar tin laser cut into parts for a reefer.  The quantity issue was more related to the litho.  Not that it will come to anything, I'm tossing idea's around anyway.

Would the tin and laser cutting be cheaper than bashing a clunker? I think you said the parts would cost more than buying the whole thing.

George

Robert S. Butler posted:

Please keep tossing it around.  You never know - before you know it we might have a tinplate version of the Natty Bo effort. 

I am definitely doing one. My issue with Natty Boh is the white background. That's better suited to water slide decals than my proposal. I did my three stooges car that way. Plus, the white hurts my eyes.

How about the Old Hildelberg reefer or the comic Burp 'O Beer?

George

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I found these on line, if it's not appropriate to have them here, remove them and I am sorry.  Point is, there are probably thousands of possibilities...  Would make an insanely cool string of tinplate reefers....  Like Robert says, with cleaner more detailed graphics but still either litho or printed on the tin..  One bog thing I like about the litho cars is the lines between the side boards which is one cool detail litho can provide on a flat side.  Doesn't have to be beer reefers either, plenty of meats etc.

 

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William 1 posted:

You guys are nuts.  In a good way...

I still have two color versions of the Olde Frothingslosh beer cans.  I believe the model’s name was Fatima Yeckburg.  Can’t argue with that.  

I think you are right but haven't spell checked you. We don't do that on the tinplate forum. It wasn't her real name.

Unfortunately, she died recently. I read her obituary.

George

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