Weekend tinplate photos/ videos 3/16/18!!

Since I understood that the US government does not like European tinplate I show some American tinplate

Last week I found this Lionel 257 with a 610 Pullman and a 612 Observation on a swap-meet in Netherlands. They are not in a very good condition, but I cleaned/polished them a bit and think they are good enough not to need a repaint.

Regards

Fred

Ives wide gauge 3241 pulling the MTH Ives circus train. A 191 coke car is used to transport zebras and a giraffe.  I placed a 193 Ives caboose at the end of the train. This is a favorite of my grand children.

Fred those look great!

Great posts again this week folks.  We are off to a great start.

My tinplate offering this week is an example of American Flyer's #3020 Large Boxcab.

This electric outline locomotive was available in the catalogs from 1922 through 1925 in a variety of colors.  She is modeled after the New York Central's T-type locomotive.

(Photo borrowed from Google Images - New York Central locomotive, engine number 1213, engine type ALCO-GE C-C. Call Number OP-13531, from the Otto C. Perry Collection)

She was American Flyer's top of the line O gauge electric outline locomotive during those years - the Queen of the Fleet.

My example has had some rough use and shows wear, but the price was acceptable.  I think she still looks pretty regal after more than 90 years.

And she still runs.

 Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

sncf231e posted:

Since I understood that the US government does not like European tinplate I show some American tinplate

Regards

Fred

No, no, no, we love European tinplate so much, we think it is worth 25% more!

George

Got this cattle car this week. I wasn't even aware of it. The red changes tone with the lighting.

Also got this as a project. I already removed some grime. This will get disassembled and completely restored. The roof, ladders and a door are going on another car. The remaining car will get a "photo litho" transplant.

George

Chris Lonero posted:

A couple of more tinplate LED projects this week. Standard gauge 385E and an American Flyer caboose.  Let’s see your tinplate! 

Awesome Chris!!

Chris is a pro with the LED'S!

Bought this 400E about a year and a half ago from Chris. Flickering led in firebox, and lighting up front.

Joe Gozzo

Greg those boxcabs are fantastic!

Gentlemen,

   Fantastic Tin, Chris the LED's in your Tin are great, will use your picture of the lighted AF Caboose with the LED's, and do a similar job on the one I have coming.  Seriously nice stuff.

Greg,

   Now that 3020 AF Engine has seen some serious child usage thru the years, hope she still runs great for ya!

Joe,

That engine with all the LED's is fantastic, you are correct Chris does great work with the LED additions.

George S,

Fantastic NYC Box car and good luck with your project Car!

PCRR/Dave

Cleaned up the Training Center HQ Tin a little, it's like brand new now.

Dave. I would suggest going with the “Mega chip” with the caboose then you can keep the original lenses in tact. I used the regular 5mm led’s on this one beacause I had them in stock. 

Trainlover160 posted:

Chris is a pro with the LED'S!

Bought this 400E about a year and a half ago from Chris. Flickering led in firebox, and lighting up front.

Joe Gozzo

Your to kind.   I may do the flickering fire treatment on the 385E like I did on yours. 

FRED: Never mind our so-called government, keep those beautiful  European trains coming! I just recently got back into LGB myself, especially the original German-made at Saganer Strasse!  LOL!

Jim Z posted:

Ives wide gauge 3241 pulling the MTH Ives circus train. A 191 coke car is used to transport zebras and a giraffe.  I placed a 193 Ives caboose at the end of the train. This is a favorite of my grand children.

Love the circus train and your layout!    Well done!  

Fred and Daniel: Let's see some more of those fantastic Marklin, Bing, Jouef, Hornby, and others! THANKS in advance!

American Flyer Set 1X  the Wolverine - 1927

  There's a line in My Fair Lady where Professor Higgins says "..and there are places where English almost completely disappears. Why in America they haven't used it in years."

  If Higgins had been looking at this set in the catalog and then seen the set contents he might have been moved to say "...and there are places in the catalog where reality almost completely disappears. Why on page 27 the Wolverine is nothing like it appears."

The catalog cut

The description indicates the engine is "speed governed" No. 11 equipped with a brake and the description and illustration indicates the tender is a #120 and the car is a  four window #1120.  It may very well be that there were Wolverine sets issued with these pieces but the two sets that I have seen, both boxed, had the engine and tender (the cast iron superstructure has "A.F. 10" cast letters underneath the cab window) which agree with the illustration but both sets had two cars, a #1107 with a railroad name and an unmarked baggage car, and both set boxes were structured so the partitions would accommodate an engine, tender, two cars, and track .

  As has been noted, Flyer was willing to change things for customers so I'm guessing the two sets I've seen might be due to a special customer request for something different.  When I first saw this set my impulse was to assume it was made for someone who didn't want the Flyer name on the train (in the spirit of the Nationwide sets) but both the tender and the set box state very clearly that the set is American Flyer.  

  I've checked various and sundry pieces of Flyer literature from the period but I haven't found any reference to this version of the Wolverine and at this late date it is unlikely I will.  So, I'll just chalk it up to another made-per-customer-request-set from American Flyer.

The set contents

Ives 109 semaphore, before and after pictures. The before photo does nor really show how rusty it was.

Steve,

   Looks great now buddy, real nice restoration job!

PCRR/Dave

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Ives 109 semaphore, before and after pictures. The before photo does nor really show how rusty it was.

Field goal Steve! Nice job!

You know that i enjoy trains from USA but today i will stay with French Hornby trains, all models from the 1935-1940 period and clockwork models. At this time the Hornby range was very colorful, much than in the previous years, they are not realistic trains just tinplate toys....

Tinplate Art, thanks so much for your support !!!

And some freight cars to match with those locos,

Have a great tinplate weekend          Daniel

those are great Daniel, thanks!

Chris,

   I ordered the regular 5MM LED's from Evens Design for the rear of the AF Caboose, and bought the LED holders for them to glue into the AF original Lenses.  We will see if they work out or not.  Your AF Caboose with the rear LED's is really cool Tin.

PCRR/Dave

Thanks David.  I didn’t realize he had holders for the 5mm now. 

Chris,

   It's not for the Mega Chip, it's for the regular 5mm LED set up, I think the holders (Mounting Clips) are brand new.  If they fit in the AF rear lenses correctly I will Super Glue them so I do not need the hot glue around the LED's.

PCRR/Dave

Daniel: THANK YOU,for sharing your colorful models! Also, a special THANKS to Mr. Butler for his unique Flyer set!

Missed out on some spectacular Bub 8-wheel cars this week. All went for big bucks with freight charges from Europe to match.

I have the 4-wheel version of the International Transport boxcar which also says Bing on one end.

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

Chris,

   It's not for the Mega Chip, it's for the regular 5mm LED set up, I think the holders (Mounting Clips) are brand new.  If they fit in the AF rear lenses correctly I will Super Glue them so I do not need the hot glue around the LED's.

PCRR/Dave

I didn’t think it was for the mega chip I wasn’t aware there was a clip for the regular bulb but that’s a great idea!  Let me know if you need any assistance and don’t forget to post some pictures!   

I need to find a shiny green one!

Edit - added video 

Chris,

 Roger that I will take some pictures as I do the work.

John,

I do not remember if Lionel built a Bright Green 816 O Gauge Tin Plate Coal Car or not, maybe MTH built a 8816/2816 Coal Car in Bright Green, however I have never seen one on anyone's layout.

PCRR/Dave

 

John,

I do not remember if Lionel built a Bright Green 816 O Gauge Tin Plate Coal Car or not, maybe MTH built a 8816/2816 Coal Car in Bright Green, however I have never seen one on anyone's layout.

PCRR/Dave

I think mth made one.  If not, bright green and brass would look great !

my gowing af o prewar family also.wanted one of these prewar ballast cars,,,a little jb weld,good as new  

JimO'C  here's a couple more boxcars from that series.  What is interesting is that all of the boxcars have different home reporting marks.  

In the photos you posted The International Transport Wagen has Hamburg - which was a major shipping hub.

The Banana Wagen has Bremen - which would make sense since Bananas would have been imported from overseas and Bremen did/does a lot of maritime trade.

The California Frucht Transport has Berlin - my guess for this would be the idea of luxury imports - expensive fruit from California. Berlin would have had enough people who could afford such luxuries.

pretty sure this is the brightest green Lionel used on the 816

Steamer posted:

pretty sure this is the brightest green Lionel used on the 816

 

That’s not bad - I will probably have to pay through the nose for one that’s not scratched up though. Mth did make a darker green and brass in the 2009 catalog. Looks like now I have two more wishlist items.

I got this a few months ago from a forum member for a really good price, so keep an eye out.

John,

   The old Lionel Pea Green is far from what I thought you really wanted, and they are almost a flat color.  I am not sure but  I thought MTH did make one a little closer to what you wanted, it is a lot darker and pretty hi-gloss also.  Almost like a Forest Green, it's a 2816 Coal Car, I believe it has no Coal Load however.  I have never actually seen one on a layout however.

Good luck finding what you want, I actually think the Pea Green Car works well with most any Tin Plate Freight Train, especially nice for the Tin Plate Coal Train you are putting together.  Check out the Train shows in your area, you will probably run across one in decent shape.

PCRR/Dave

From the archives, a Lionel 812 that I refurbished in dark green:

A pair of two-packs of MTH LCL's fit nicely.

PD

got the coupler done up on the Dorfan hopper, so now I can run Lionel,Ives,Dorfan,and Flyer, and mustn't forget Marx....can't see the size difference at all.......

got the motor to my Flyer Royal Blue running. Not much speed, and gets hot to the touch,but keeps running.