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I have spent the last weeks making my own model and toy-train website http://sncf231e.nl/ which also holds my e-books including an updated version of my Tinplate accessories catalog: A book full of tinplate accessories and tinplate videos like French tinplate trains (Trains jouets classiques), so you might take a look there.

But here are my tinplate pictures for this week. Before standardization of the toy-train gauges a gauge of 33 mm (30 mm between the tracks) was introduced in France. JdeP made trains for that gauge also, until about 1930. All these trains were clockwork. Here you see my 33 mm JdeP train (I can balance it on 0 gauge track, but it will not run on that track):

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Regards

Fred

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sncf231e posted:

But here are my tinplate pictures for this week. Before standardization of the toy-train gauges a gauge of 33 mm (30 mm between the tracks) was introduced in France. JdeP made trains for that gauge also, until about 1930. All these trains were clockwork. Here you see my 33 mm JdeP train (I can balance it on 0 gauge track, but it will not run on that track):

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Regards

Fred

What does the "J.d.P" stand for?  Does it represent "Jeu de Paume" like the metro station in Paris?

Thanks as always for sharing, Fred.

 Steven J. Serenska

 

Serenska posted:

What does the "J.d.P" stand for?  Does it represent "Jeu de Paume" like the metro station in Paris?

Thanks as always for sharing, Fred.

 Steven J. Serenska

 

Steven,

J.d.P. stands for Jouet de Paris which is also known as JdeP and of course JEP. "Jeu de Paume" is a museum in Paris at the Place de La Concorde; as far as I know the metro station is called Concorde (but with the exit Jeu de Paume). 

Regards

Fred

This morning at the local Atlantic Division train show, I picked up this early Bing 1 gauge clockwork set. This is a nice addition to the other european trains that I have been drawn to lately. Any additional information about this set is most welcome. I am in need of reference material in English regarding Bing, suggestions? Tomorrow, I will dig out my 1 gauge track and give this set a run.

Eric Hofberg

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chug posted:

This morning at the local Atlantic Division train show, I picked up this early Bing 1 gauge clockwork set. This is a nice addition to the other european trains that I have been drawn to lately. Any additional information about this set is most welcome. I am in need of reference material in English regarding Bing, suggestions? Tomorrow, I will dig out my 1 gauge track and give this set a run.

Eric Hofberg

TCA, LCCAIMG_5926IMG_5927IMG_5928IMG_5929IMG_5930IMG_5931IMG_5932

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thanks Roy.pretty simple, I had two junk 1666 shells, one had a bad front, the other a bad cab area. I have a junk 675 motor I used for mock up. Cut the two shells to match, and joined them with JB Weld. I'm using a Prewar freight truck for a trailing truck, and a 2046 front truck.I moved the headlight to a C&O position. Still a work in progress, but it's getting close.Haven't really decided on a tender yet, Been running a 1666 type...may do another Vandy like I did for my 225E.

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#Dave way kewl! Creative visionary. Ya'll are teaching that " in a pile of lumber, you may be pleasantly surprised to find a kewl layout  contained within, or perhaps give new life to an old soul in the parts of a steamer!"

I appreciate that you share your vision. You got some mad skills dooood, Mr Eliott shares your fearlessness, forethought and creativity to step outside the box, and mess with the rules. He shocks and amazes... what a dynamic hobby, 

Do what makes you happy, love what you do...

Thanks for sharing,  to all

chug posted:

This morning at the local Atlantic Division train show, I picked up this early Bing 1 gauge clockwork set. This is a nice addition to the other european trains that I have been drawn to lately. Any additional information about this set is most welcome. I am in need of reference material in English regarding Bing, suggestions? Tomorrow, I will dig out my 1 gauge track and give this set a run.

Eric Hofberg

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Eric,

I do not know of Bing reference books in English. I do have some catalog reprints (books made by Claude Jeanmaire and published by Verlag Eisenbahn some 30 years ago). I wonder whether your set is complete. Further I do not know if it is an early Bing, it is still cataloged in 1930 and in 1932 Bing stopped making toys. In the catalogs I see these sets with 3 cars. Here are some catalog pictures from the 1930 trade catalog with the locomotive (catalog number 11/418/1) and cars (10/75/1 and 10/58/1)  you have:

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And a similar page with the locomotive (now with catalog number 171 2575) from the 1912/15 catalog, this catalog does not show the type of cars you have:

And I do have the same locomotive (but not these cars):

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Fred

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chug posted:

This morning at the local Atlantic Division train show, I picked up this early Bing 1 gauge clockwork set. This is a nice addition to the other european trains that I have been drawn to lately. Any additional information about this set is most welcome. I am in need of reference material in English regarding Bing, suggestions? Tomorrow, I will dig out my 1 gauge track and give this set a run.

Eric Hofberg

TCA, LCCA

Hello. That is a nice set made between 1925-33. You can date the production with the logo on the front of your engine, it is the last one before Bing disapeared from the toy market.

This set have bee sold in various configurations with two or more cars. The passenger car existed in three colors, blue red and green. 

I hope you will have fun running that set.

Very best,   Daniel

 

Daniel and Fred,

That is the information that I was seeking. Thank you for doing the research! I really need to find some reference materials. So far my search of the web has yielded little in the way of books.  I also enjoyed the video provided by Fred. My good friend Murray has a similar outdoor, multi-gauge setup and we run both steam and clockwork.

Eric Hofberg

TCA, LCCA

 

Steamer posted:

thanks Roy.pretty simple, I had two junk 1666 shells, one had a bad front, the other a bad cab area. I have a junk 675 motor I used for mock up. Cut the two shells to match, and joined them with JB Weld. I'm using a Prewar freight truck for a trailing truck, and a 2046 front truck.I moved the headlight to a C&O position. Still a work in progress, but it's getting close.Haven't really decided on a tender yet, Been running a 1666 type...may do another Vandy like I did for my 225E.

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How did you add the fourth axle and set of drivers? That seems more complicated than modifying the shells.

if I did it...it's not complicated! I had a couple bare 1666/675 type motors. I did some rough measurements, and cut an end off. I have some scrap steel banding from my work, and I joined the extra section to the main motor. Not perfect, and this was the first time I've done this. It runs really well (especially considering who the project manager is  

I had some spare gears the same basic size as the intermediate gear, and added it between the first and second drivers.

I'll be tearing the engine down to do some sanding and painting...hopefully this weekend, and I'll take some pics of the motor.

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