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I thought I would get things stated a little early tonight. “The weekend can never come to soon”😓 I don’t know about you but empty hoppers and gondolas to me just doesn’t look right without a load to haul around. My newest standard gauge hopper is no exception so I cut a piece of wood and painted it black then separated the body a bit and placed it in. I brushed on some white glue and put a real anthracite coal load on it and there you have it!  Now Let’s see your tinplate! 🚂

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John,

   Got to love that big Red Engine, it will make a Great Christmas Train!

 

Jim Z,

Loved the video, fantastic Tin Plate Layout, just great!

 

BeachHead2,

Fantastic #9 Green on Apple Green!  Very serious stuff!  

 

Fred,

   Love the Royal Scot Engine and Tender!  The Burgundy Big Cars look great with her, especially the Royal Red Mail Car!

PCRR/Dave

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Summerdale Junction posted:

Jim Z :

           That is one great layout that you have . Every time that I see it , I want to see more . I hope to utilize many of your technics and incorporate them into my own standard gauge layout . I really like how you have treated your sidewalks and curbs. Please keep showing us more . Thought the video to be great . Thanks , Jim

The streets, sidewalks, signage and curbs were drawn to scale on CAD and printed on heavy weight 11 x17 paper. I taped the paper to a sheet of thin plywood with 2 inch Fastcap double sides Speedtape  and cut woodland scenics grass mat for the green areas. I taped or glued them in place. I installed the lighting and wired the scenic panels upside down off the layout.  When finished I placed them in the final position.

i will check and see if I have any construction photos.

Here is the same video in black and white.

Jim Z

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.

The engine is pure Lionel

And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery

Here you can see their lineage

I wanted to show a video of the set running.  I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience.  I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled.  I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10.  I used rubber bands to hold them together.  Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses.    I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.

 

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Noorthwoods Flyer

Greg

  

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TINPLATE ART, new stuff is also nice to have and run. Even if i am more a collector of old original models, sometime i buy something "new". Five years ago i was in York and in the members Hall a seller had that nice, new condition Williams repro 381e lionel with an original Build a Loco Motor, as the price was really fair, price of the motor, it returned with me in France. After all this model is not so new, now it's something 40 years old....

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I keep that loco but ....... i always need to have an original one....

Daniel

 

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Tinplate Art posted:

I appreciate the TRUE collectors and keepers of train artifacts on this thread, and that makes me a vicarious (armchair?) collector. But I personally run only new and shiny repros: Tinplate Traditions and Lionel Classics standard gauge and accessories.

Guys,

All tinplate is beautiful, even old rusty pieces.

please post pictures. We will admire,not criticize.

George 

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Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.

The engine is pure Lionel

And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery

Here you can see their lineage

I wanted to show a video of the set running.  I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience.  I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled.  I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10.  I used rubber bands to hold them together.  Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses.    I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.

 

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Noorthwoods Flyer

Greg

  

That's awesome Greg!

Steve great use of leftover parts! Exactly what I woulda done.

Greg I love those Ives cars (yours too Steve). I've found soe of the Ives passenger cars, but they always seem to have one bad side.The hunt continues.

 

 

"All tinplate is beautiful, even old rusty pieces."

funny you should mention that George....got a care package from Dennis Holler....

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The Flyer cars has the link coupler trucks, so Dennis sent the tab and slot type to go with my other Flyer cars, but other than that they are ready to go.

The Lionel cars defiantly need some time in the shop. With the 817 projects some others have done, this one will get a repaint, and I already have a two tone green 817.Not sure if I'll go red or maybe something else. Like to find a close match to the tank car, but who knows.

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Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Just arrived. Beautiful Ives set 500,1926-27. The Green Mountain Express.  Kinda like me, lights are on, nobody’s home. Going to pull the shell and check it out.

Steve

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Steve, 

Nice Set. It looks like it is in great condition. I have the engine and I am on the lookout for the cars.  Ives recycled that set name.  This is also known as the Green Mountain Express. Its from 1926 according to the Ives Train Society website.

 

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Steamer,

David I do not know what it it about that particular Green on Green colored 817 Caboose, either there were an incredible number of them made, or the kids in those era's played incredibly hard with those particular colored Lionel Cabooses.  At the Train Shows I have seen more of those Green on Green colored Cabooses that were played with incredibly hard, and need restored, than any of the other colored 817's. 

I think the next old beat up 817 I pick up, is going to get restored in a nice High Gloss Silver with Black Trim.  I got this idea when I stripped the last 817 to bare metal and had it running in the Consist, prior to painting it Black and Gold.  Maybe it's time I added a nice shinny Silver 817 to the Consist.

PCRR/Dave

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George S posted:

I picked up some early Ives, Dorian and Flyer at York.

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The 124 is going to get a modest restoration. I can run the larger ones with my 9" Flyer and the smaller ones with some O27 Marx or Lionel. 

George 

I see that you and Dave are vying for the title of Titan of Tinplate. Nice finds.  Your tinplate empire is growing too.  Its great fun!

Greg

Steamer posted:

great score George! I have the Dorfan gondola, and the Ives 128. I've seen some of the other Ives pop up on the bay recently, but they go out of my willingness quickly.

None of these were particularly expensive. Each seller negotiated a little. These sellers had reasonably priced items to start. Some sellers really thought theirs were going to help them retire. I feel bad for those guys, because tinplate prices will not likely go up from here. In fact, they are down significantly from the early 2000's. 

Now, there were a few Ives items that I liked, but couldn't swing right now. Those were priced between $100 and $150 each. They were some of the more rare and better condition cars. I don't find that prohibitive, but they weren't a priority for me right now. I do have a line on a red AF 3008 from one seller. He told me to call him in a couple of weeks; he has a spare. I hope he gives me a nice price...

George

Chris Lonero posted:

I thought I would get things stated a little early tonight. “The weekend can never come to soon”😓 I don’t know about you but empty hoppers and gondolas to me just doesn’t look right without a load to haul around. My newest standard gauge hopper is no exception so I cut a piece of wood and painted it black then separated the body a bit and placed it in. I brushed on some white glue and put a real anthracite coal load on it and there you have it!  Now Let’s see your tinplate! 🚂

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I agree,i put 500 series loads in my 200 series dump ,now it looks like it is dong somethingIMGP2184

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beachhead2 posted:

Nice work, George.  I need to venture into O tinplate.  Do you have a specific engine you intend to use for that consist?

Ahh, you asked the question that has been perplexing me! I looked all over York. I found a couple of options. I already have a 260e and a 262e. It really should be towed by a switcher, but I haven't found the right one. Most of the time it will be parked on a siding, doing the hard railroad construction, renovation and demolition work.

George

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.

The engine is pure Lionel

And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery

Here you can see their lineage

I wanted to show a video of the set running.  I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience.  I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled.  I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10.  I used rubber bands to hold them together.  Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses.    I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.

 

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Noorthwoods Flyer

Greg

  

Greg

What a great looking set!! are those Ives cars difficult to find?

Joe Gozzo

terry hudon posted:
Chris Lonero posted:

I thought I would get things stated a little early tonight. “The weekend can never come to soon”😓 I don’t know about you but empty hoppers and gondolas to me just doesn’t look right without a load to haul around. My newest standard gauge hopper is no exception so I cut a piece of wood and painted it black then separated the body a bit and placed it in. I brushed on some white glue and put a real anthracite coal load on it and there you have it!  Now Let’s see your tinplate! 🚂

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I agree,i put 500 series loads in my 200 series dump ,now it looks like it is dong somethingIMGP2184

Great idea Terry, did you need to modify the loads, or did you make them?

Joe Gozzo

Trainlover160 posted:
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Captaincog posted:

Today was Dorfan day at the TTOS Southern Pacific Division Meet...so here are some pictures...

Some more from the Dorfan display.

Steve

https://youtu.be/1d2l5AryqbQ

Steve, I watched the video. Nice set up with good size loops. What is the size of the table. Do you guys have to set up and tear down for each meet?

Joe Gozzo

Joe, we set up and tear down each month. That's why there is seldom any buildings or scenery.

Steve

 

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.

The engine is pure Lionel

And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery

Here you can see their lineage

I wanted to show a video of the set running.  I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience.  I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled.  I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10.  I used rubber bands to hold them together.  Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses.    I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.

 

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Noorthwoods Flyer

Greg

  

I have almost the same set but four cars and no blue frame strip. was told it was an uncataloged sears set. my cars are in nice shape but your loco is in better shape than mine.

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Trainlover160 posted:
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Captaincog posted:

Today was Dorfan day at the TTOS Southern Pacific Division Meet...so here are some pictures...

Some more from the Dorfan display.

Steve

https://youtu.be/1d2l5AryqbQ

Steve, I watched the video. Nice set up with good size loops. What is the size of the table. Do you guys have to set up and tear down for each meet?

Joe Gozzo

Joe, we set up and tear down each month. That's why there is seldom any buildings or scenery.

Steve

 

Joe, forgot to answer your other question. We set up on five eight foot tables, so about 8' x 12.5'. We do a similar set up at our TCA meets.

Steve

Trainlover160 posted:
Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

  

Greg

What a great looking set!! are those Ives cars difficult to find?

Joe Gozzo

Joe,

I wouldn't say they are particularly difficult, depending on the variation you are looking for, and the condition that you are willing to accept.  There always seem to be some version of the maroon and brown cars on eBay.

These are the variations that I have:

And then there is the variation that Jim posted, which I put in the "hens teeth" category.  I don't have this variation yet, but I keep looking.  When I see them they are either in tough condition or priced out of my comfort zone.   Jim have you ever seen the matching electric outline engine for the yellow cars"

Jim O'C posted:

Don't forget the yellow, Greg

1690-1691 pass pair in yellow 70.00

Rick Rubino posted:
Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

  

I have almost the same set but four cars and no blue frame strip. was told it was an uncataloged sears set. my cars are in nice shape but your loco is in better shape than mine.

Rick,

I have heard the same explanation about the blue/green version being sold through Sears. What color is your frame?  I think the cars look great in any color.

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

George S,

   The 259E is the wrong size Engine it's a 2600 series engine, find a Gun Metal Gray 249E, the mid size Tin fits better with the 800/2800 series rolling stock.  Even better expend more money, and pick up a Black 263E P2. Either of those 2 engines is the correct size for your 800/2800 series rolling stock, especially nice for your Terra Cotta Work Train Consist!

PCRR/Dave

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Pine Creek Railroad posted:

George S,

   The 259E is the wrong size Engine it's a 2600 series engine, find a Gun Metal Gray 249E, the mid size Tin fits better with the 800/2800 series rolling stock.  Even better expend more money, and pick up a Black 263E P2. Either of those 2 engines is the correct size for your 800/2800 series rolling stock, especially nice for your Terra Cotta Work Train Consist!

PCRR/Dave

I think you are right Dave. The Lionel 1662 was sold in sets with the small 1600 series cars and would be the size of the 259. I have several 259's and they are way too small for the 2800 series cars. 

The AF 429 works with the 9" AF cars, but those are still smaller than the 2800 series cars. 

The 249e could work. I have been avoiding the 263e, because I see it as my cross country freight or passenger hauler. 

I think I am going to slow walk the engine for now. I have a 262 and a 260 to pull the work train when needed. Mostly, this train will sit on my siding "working".  

George

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