I thought I would get things stated a little early tonight. “The weekend can never come to soon”😓 I don’t know about you but empty hoppers and gondolas to me just doesn’t look right without a load to haul around. My newest standard gauge hopper is no exception so I cut a piece of wood and painted it black then separated the body a bit and placed it in. I brushed on some white glue and put a real anthracite coal load on it and there you have it! Now Let’s see your tinplate! 🚂
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Jim Z :
That is one great layout that you have . Every time that I see it , I want to see more . I hope to utilize many of your technics and incorporate them into my own standard gauge layout . I really like how you have treated your sidewalks and curbs. Please keep showing us more . Thought the video to be great . Thanks , Jim
Nice editing work Jim. Looked like they coupled and uncoupled on there own!
Jim, I loved it. Thanks for sharing that video.
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Find of the week, a matching set of Lionel 309 310 and 312 passenger cars in good condition. I think it was the last passenger cars made by Lionel before they dicontinue standard gauge trains. They will match perfectly with my 1835e.
Have a nice tinplate weekend and show us some of your York find . Daniel
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Excellent. They look great. Nice find.
My Bassett-Lowke Royal Scot locomotive is a low voltage DC version with permanent magnet motor. Since it is more then 80 years old it had lost much of its magnetism and could barely run. By adding a Neodymium magnet the power is restored and now it pulls a train of 4 Exley coaches.
Regards
Fred
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John,
Got to love that big Red Engine, it will make a Great Christmas Train!
Jim Z,
Loved the video, fantastic Tin Plate Layout, just great!
BeachHead2,
Fantastic #9 Green on Apple Green! Very serious stuff!
Fred,
Love the Royal Scot Engine and Tender! The Burgundy Big Cars look great with her, especially the Royal Red Mail Car!
PCRR/Dave
Summerdale Junction posted:Jim Z :
That is one great layout that you have . Every time that I see it , I want to see more . I hope to utilize many of your technics and incorporate them into my own standard gauge layout . I really like how you have treated your sidewalks and curbs. Please keep showing us more . Thought the video to be great . Thanks , Jim
The streets, sidewalks, signage and curbs were drawn to scale on CAD and printed on heavy weight 11 x17 paper. I taped the paper to a sheet of thin plywood with 2 inch Fastcap double sides Speedtape and cut woodland scenics grass mat for the green areas. I taped or glued them in place. I installed the lighting and wired the scenic panels upside down off the layout. When finished I placed them in the final position.
i will check and see if I have any construction photos.
Here is the same video in black and white.
Jim Z
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Fred: Love that BL Royal Scot and that fine rake of carriages!
Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.
The engine is pure Lionel
And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery
Here you can see their lineage
I wanted to show a video of the set running. I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience. I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled. I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10. I used rubber bands to hold them together. Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses. I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Noorthwoods Flyer
Greg
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Greg: THANKS for sharing that nice and interesting set!
BEACHHEAD2: I too am into new and shiny - NICE #9!
I appreciate the TRUE collectors and keepers of train artifacts on this thread, and that makes me a vicarious (armchair?) collector. But I personally run only new and shiny repros: Tinplate Traditions and Lionel Classics standard gauge and accessories.
I'm with you. I'm pretty bashful about posting pics because I see those vintage trains and consider those cool "finds". Everything I have was just a click of the mouse. Now, everything I want is NOT available so it makes me appreciate those finds all the more.
I am somewhat cursed with OCD and I like things to look near perfect. Also, my rationale is I could never afford an original State Set or Blue Comet in the near perfect condition I require. THANKS to Mike Wolfe and others, it is possible to own NEW tinplate! Hey, whatever works!
NICE SET!
TINPLATE ART, new stuff is also nice to have and run. Even if i am more a collector of old original models, sometime i buy something "new". Five years ago i was in York and in the members Hall a seller had that nice, new condition Williams repro 381e lionel with an original Build a Loco Motor, as the price was really fair, price of the motor, it returned with me in France. After all this model is not so new, now it's something 40 years old....
I keep that loco but ....... i always need to have an original one....
Daniel
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Daniel, beautiful piece and great stories. Stories that go with our trains just make collecting all that much better.
Miketh
Tinplate Art posted:I appreciate the TRUE collectors and keepers of train artifacts on this thread, and that makes me a vicarious (armchair?) collector. But I personally run only new and shiny repros: Tinplate Traditions and Lionel Classics standard gauge and accessories.
Guys,
All tinplate is beautiful, even old rusty pieces.
please post pictures. We will admire,not criticize.
George
Greg J. Turinetti posted:Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.
The engine is pure Lionel
And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery
Here you can see their lineage
I wanted to show a video of the set running. I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience. I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled. I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10. I used rubber bands to hold them together. Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses. I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Noorthwoods Flyer
Greg
That's awesome Greg!
A bit of an odd duck. These are not what they appear to be. The tenders are Marx but the engines are Australian Dolphin Products. They were made as floor toys and seem to be quite rare even in Australia. I DID not modify them, this is how I got them other than adding the tenders
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Wow - they pass for MARX clones!
gotta be copies....wonder if Marx was involved? Thanks for sharing guys, great stuff again.
Just arrived. Beautiful Ives set 500,1926-27. The Green Mountain Express. Kinda like me, lights are on, nobody’s home. Going to pull the shell and check it out.
Steve
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Steve great use of leftover parts! Exactly what I woulda done.
Greg I love those Ives cars (yours too Steve). I've found soe of the Ives passenger cars, but they always seem to have one bad side.The hunt continues.
"All tinplate is beautiful, even old rusty pieces."
funny you should mention that George....got a care package from Dennis Holler....
The Flyer cars has the link coupler trucks, so Dennis sent the tab and slot type to go with my other Flyer cars, but other than that they are ready to go.
The Lionel cars defiantly need some time in the shop. With the 817 projects some others have done, this one will get a repaint, and I already have a two tone green 817.Not sure if I'll go red or maybe something else. Like to find a close match to the tank car, but who knows.
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Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Steve,
Nice Set. It looks like it is in great condition. I have the engine and I am on the lookout for the cars. Ives recycled that set name. This is also known as the Green Mountain Express. Its from 1926 according to the Ives Train Society website.
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
Dave,
Nice additions to your growing tinplate empire (especially the Flyer ). I look forward to seeing the magic that you work on them.
Greg
Steamer,
David I do not know what it it about that particular Green on Green colored 817 Caboose, either there were an incredible number of them made, or the kids in those era's played incredibly hard with those particular colored Lionel Cabooses. At the Train Shows I have seen more of those Green on Green colored Cabooses that were played with incredibly hard, and need restored, than any of the other colored 817's.
I think the next old beat up 817 I pick up, is going to get restored in a nice High Gloss Silver with Black Trim. I got this idea when I stripped the last 817 to bare metal and had it running in the Consist, prior to painting it Black and Gold. Maybe it's time I added a nice shinny Silver 817 to the Consist.
PCRR/Dave
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just like my road runner....Chrysler must have painted 80% of their cars in the late '60s green...good thing it's my favorite color.
Steamer posted:gotta be copies....wonder if Marx was involved? Thanks for sharing guys, great stuff again.
Last I heard, there was no Dolphin and Marx connection, but they are almost exactly alike on the outside.
Steve
great score George! I have the Dorfan gondola, and the Ives 128. I've seen some of the other Ives pop up on the bay recently, but they go out of my willingness quickly.
George S posted:
I see that you and Dave are vying for the title of Titan of Tinplate. Nice finds. Your tinplate empire is growing too. Its great fun!
Greg
Steamer posted:great score George! I have the Dorfan gondola, and the Ives 128. I've seen some of the other Ives pop up on the bay recently, but they go out of my willingness quickly.
None of these were particularly expensive. Each seller negotiated a little. These sellers had reasonably priced items to start. Some sellers really thought theirs were going to help them retire. I feel bad for those guys, because tinplate prices will not likely go up from here. In fact, they are down significantly from the early 2000's.
Now, there were a few Ives items that I liked, but couldn't swing right now. Those were priced between $100 and $150 each. They were some of the more rare and better condition cars. I don't find that prohibitive, but they weren't a priority for me right now. I do have a line on a red AF 3008 from one seller. He told me to call him in a couple of weeks; he has a spare. I hope he gives me a nice price...
George
Chris Lonero posted:I thought I would get things stated a little early tonight. “The weekend can never come to soon”😓 I don’t know about you but empty hoppers and gondolas to me just doesn’t look right without a load to haul around. My newest standard gauge hopper is no exception so I cut a piece of wood and painted it black then separated the body a bit and placed it in. I brushed on some white glue and put a real anthracite coal load on it and there you have it! Now Let’s see your tinplate! 🚂
I agree,i put 500 series loads in my 200 series dump ,now it looks like it is dong something
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Nice work, George. I need to venture into O tinplate. Do you have a specific engine you intend to use for that consist?
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Steamer posted:just like my road runner....Chrysler must have painted 80% of their cars in the late '60s green...good thing it's my favorite color.
I painted my old 69 Mustang Slime Green back in the day. 351W/4spd and 3.55:1 gears was fun but I let is go long ago
beachhead2 posted:Nice work, George. I need to venture into O tinplate. Do you have a specific engine you intend to use for that consist?
Love the work caboose! Looking great
Jim Kelly-Evans posted:
Great find Jim! I'm always impressed with the diversity of the trains you track down. It's like looking at photos of Ward Kimbell's trains.
Captaincog posted:Today was Dorfan day at the TTOS Southern Pacific Division Meet...so here are some pictures...
Very cool, captain. That's the first time I've seen a Dorfan box. Thanks.
beachhead2 posted:Nice work, George. I need to venture into O tinplate. Do you have a specific engine you intend to use for that consist?
Ahh, you asked the question that has been perplexing me! I looked all over York. I found a couple of options. I already have a 260e and a 262e. It really should be towed by a switcher, but I haven't found the right one. Most of the time it will be parked on a siding, doing the hard railroad construction, renovation and demolition work.
George
Tinplate switcher?
Greg J. Turinetti posted:Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.
The engine is pure Lionel
And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery
Here you can see their lineage
I wanted to show a video of the set running. I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience. I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled. I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10. I used rubber bands to hold them together. Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses. I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Noorthwoods Flyer
Greg
Greg
What a great looking set!! are those Ives cars difficult to find?
Joe Gozzo
terry hudon posted:Chris Lonero posted:I thought I would get things stated a little early tonight. “The weekend can never come to soon”😓 I don’t know about you but empty hoppers and gondolas to me just doesn’t look right without a load to haul around. My newest standard gauge hopper is no exception so I cut a piece of wood and painted it black then separated the body a bit and placed it in. I brushed on some white glue and put a real anthracite coal load on it and there you have it! Now Let’s see your tinplate! 🚂
I agree,i put 500 series loads in my 200 series dump ,now it looks like it is dong something
Great idea Terry, did you need to modify the loads, or did you make them?
Joe Gozzo
Captaincog posted:
Some more from the Dorfan display.
Steve
beachhead2 posted:Tinplate switcher?
Yes, not many options. The Lionel 1662 with slope back tender or the AF 429 are both prewar switchers. Both are a little under sized for the big 2800 series cars, but could be made to work.
George
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:Captaincog posted:Some more from the Dorfan display.
Steve
Steve, I watched the video. Nice set up with good size loops. What is the size of the table. Do you guys have to set up and tear down for each meet?
Joe Gozzo
George S,
Great Custom 817 Work Caboose, in fact the entire consist looks great with it running in it. Real nice Custom job George, I want one just like it!
PCRR/Dave
Trainlover160 posted:Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:Captaincog posted:Today was Dorfan day at the TTOS Southern Pacific Division Meet...so here are some pictures...
Some more from the Dorfan display.
Steve
Steve, I watched the video. Nice set up with good size loops. What is the size of the table. Do you guys have to set up and tear down for each meet?
Joe Gozzo
Joe, we set up and tear down each month. That's why there is seldom any buildings or scenery.
Steve
Greg J. Turinetti posted:Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.
The engine is pure Lionel
And the cars are Ives design with Lionel livery
Here you can see their lineage
I wanted to show a video of the set running. I have to say that the latch coupler can be a trial of a person's patience. I adjusted and readjusted more times than I can tell you, and I couldn't get them to stay coupled. I finally resorted to something I would have done when I was 10. I used rubber bands to hold them together. Lets just say they are attempts to model air hoses. I am sure you will be able to see them in the video.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Noorthwoods Flyer
Greg
I have almost the same set but four cars and no blue frame strip. was told it was an uncataloged sears set. my cars are in nice shape but your loco is in better shape than mine.
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:Trainlover160 posted:Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:Captaincog posted:Today was Dorfan day at the TTOS Southern Pacific Division Meet...so here are some pictures...
Some more from the Dorfan display.
Steve
Steve, I watched the video. Nice set up with good size loops. What is the size of the table. Do you guys have to set up and tear down for each meet?
Joe Gozzo
Joe, we set up and tear down each month. That's why there is seldom any buildings or scenery.
Steve
Joe, forgot to answer your other question. We set up on five eight foot tables, so about 8' x 12.5'. We do a similar set up at our TCA meets.
Steve
Trainlover160 posted:Greg J. Turinetti posted:Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
Greg
What a great looking set!! are those Ives cars difficult to find?
Joe Gozzo
Joe,
I wouldn't say they are particularly difficult, depending on the variation you are looking for, and the condition that you are willing to accept. There always seem to be some version of the maroon and brown cars on eBay.
These are the variations that I have:
And then there is the variation that Jim posted, which I put in the "hens teeth" category. I don't have this variation yet, but I keep looking. When I see them they are either in tough condition or priced out of my comfort zone. Jim have you ever seen the matching electric outline engine for the yellow cars"
Jim O'C posted:
Rick Rubino posted:Greg J. Turinetti posted:Here is a fun and colorful set from the Lionel-Ives transition era.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
I have almost the same set but four cars and no blue frame strip. was told it was an uncataloged sears set. my cars are in nice shape but your loco is in better shape than mine.
Rick,
I have heard the same explanation about the blue/green version being sold through Sears. What color is your frame? I think the cars look great in any color.
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
Greg after taking a close look at mine it is the same as yours or was. looks like it faded over time.
George S,
The 259E is the wrong size Engine it's a 2600 series engine, find a Gun Metal Gray 249E, the mid size Tin fits better with the 800/2800 series rolling stock. Even better expend more money, and pick up a Black 263E P2. Either of those 2 engines is the correct size for your 800/2800 series rolling stock, especially nice for your Terra Cotta Work Train Consist!
PCRR/Dave
Pine Creek Railroad posted:George S,
The 259E is the wrong size Engine it's a 2600 series engine, find a Gun Metal Gray 249E, the mid size Tin fits better with the 800/2800 series rolling stock. Even better expend more money, and pick up a Black 263E P2. Either of those 2 engines is the correct size for your 800/2800 series rolling stock, especially nice for your Terra Cotta Work Train Consist!
PCRR/Dave
I think you are right Dave. The Lionel 1662 was sold in sets with the small 1600 series cars and would be the size of the 259. I have several 259's and they are way too small for the 2800 series cars.
The AF 429 works with the 9" AF cars, but those are still smaller than the 2800 series cars.
The 249e could work. I have been avoiding the 263e, because I see it as my cross country freight or passenger hauler.
I think I am going to slow walk the engine for now. I have a 262 and a 260 to pull the work train when needed. Mostly, this train will sit on my siding "working".
George