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And now for something completely different...

Here are small tin jars for sweets that represent English tank locomotives:

 

These were made some 25 years ago by the British company Silver crane. They made a series of 3 for Southern Railway, LNER and LMS. I do not know why they did not make a GW (Great Western, the fourth British railway company) version. This is not just make the same design in 3 colors, they made 3 different types: 0-4-4, 0-6-0 and 2-4-2.

These are just a bit smaller then a Hornby tank-locomotive:

Regards

Fred

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sncf231e posted:

And now for something completely different...

Here are small tin jars for sweets that represent English tank locomotives:

 

These were made some 25 years ago by the British company Silver crane. They made a series of 3 for Southern Railway, LNER and LMS. I do not know why they did not make a GW (Great Western, the fourth British railway company) version. This is not just make the same design in 3 colors, they made 3 different types: 0-4-4, 0-6-0 and 2-4-2.

These are just a bit smaller then a Hornby tank-locomotive:

Regards

Fred

Fred,

 They are pretty nice looking. Thanks for posting.

Tom 

Love those British candy jar locos! In the same vein, I have a lithographed metal Lackerli Huus Swiss biscuit tin made to represent a near gauge 1 krocodile. The bottom lid of the tin is a lithographed rail/roadbed. It has some rudimentary fixed pantographs. I will take a photo with my phone later and try to transfer it to my post!

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Tinplate Art posted:

Love those British candy jar locos! In the same vein, I have a lithographed metal Lackerli Huus Swiss biscuit tin made to represent a near gauge 1 krocodile. The bottom lid of the tin is a lithographed rail/roadbed. It has some rudimentary fixed pantographs. SORRY, no photos - NEVER learned how to download my Android photos to my Windows 10 laptop!

I find it easier and faster to post the photos right from my phone.

George

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Lionel 248 O gauge engine of 1930-31 with a set of Lionel 600-601-602 passenger cars of 1933-34 in the attractive gray/red color scheme. I believe this engine would only have been with earlier 4-wheel cars, but it looks great with these and has no problem pulling them, even up the steep grade on my layout (check out the video). And as seen in the video the cars also fit in nicely with the 1930's era Leland Detroit monorail. Enjoy!

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John Smatlak posted:

Lionel 248 O gauge engine of 1930-31 with a set of Lionel 600-601-602 passenger cars of 1933-34 in the attractive gray/red color scheme. I believe this engine would only have been with earlier 4-wheel cars, but it looks great with these and has no problem pulling them, even up the steep grade on my layout (check out the video). And as seen in the video the cars also fit in nicely with the 1930's era Leland Detroit monorail. Enjoy!

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Hi John,

You have some very cool stuff on your layout. What is the crane in the second photo?

George

Trainlover160 posted:
DOC posted:

Just picked up this Dorfan crane. I set it on this corner for a picture. Not sure where it will end up. I am adding a Monorail in a few weeks also. I have had the Monorail for a year just haven't  taken the time to do it. 20180810_152458

Wow! Item is on my list but not ready to mortgage the house yet. 🤣

Joe Gozzo

Right, and this one is in fantastic condition! Is it original?

George

George S posted:
John Smatlak posted:

Lionel 248 O gauge engine of 1930-31 with a set of Lionel 600-601-602 passenger cars of 1933-34 in the attractive gray/red color scheme. I believe this engine would only have been with earlier 4-wheel cars, but it looks great with these and has no problem pulling them, even up the steep grade on my layout (check out the video). And as seen in the video the cars also fit in nicely with the 1930's era Leland Detroit monorail. Enjoy!

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Hi John,

You have some very cool stuff on your layout. What is the crane in the second photo?

George

Thanks George- the crane is an NBN Nuremberg dock crane with a clockwork mechanism that lets you control up/down on the bucket as well as rotation. This same basic crane was made for many years in Germany, I believe originally by Gely and later by NBN, The lithograph decoration and colors changed, but the basic unit stayed the same. Mine has plain walls on the base, earlier ones had lithographed industrial scenes. Here's a video I made back in March showing the dock crane swinging around, along with the Orobr clockwork stationary power plant cranked up next to it.

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Steamer posted:
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Steamer posted:

225E took the newly acquired 2600 cars for a run today.

 

 

PTDC0006

debating on color...might stay blue....but I'm liking this scheme

 

that makes the vote 2-2......

I vote for Blue.  You will probably be able to pick up the gray/red version any day and then you will have two of the same set.  What a conundrum. 

DOC posted:

The Dorfan Crane is a T-Reproduction.  I have seen a few others but the legs were broken. Cost was not that bad. Always thought it would look nice on the layout. Now to find a spot for it.  

I like the T-Reproductions. They did a nice job. I'm sure it was a little more reasonable than an original...

George

John Smatlak posted:
George S posted:
John Smatlak posted:

Lionel 248 O gauge engine of 1930-31 with a set of Lionel 600-601-602 passenger cars of 1933-34 in the attractive gray/red color scheme. I believe this engine would only have been with earlier 4-wheel cars, but it looks great with these and has no problem pulling them, even up the steep grade on my layout (check out the video). And as seen in the video the cars also fit in nicely with the 1930's era Leland Detroit monorail. Enjoy!

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Hi John,

You have some very cool stuff on your layout. What is the crane in the second photo?

George

Thanks George- the crane is an NBN Nuremberg dock crane with a clockwork mechanism that lets you control up/down on the bucket as well as rotation. This same basic crane was made for many years in Germany, I believe originally by Gely and later by NBN, The lithograph decoration and colors changed, but the basic unit stayed the same. Mine has plain walls on the base, earlier ones had lithographed industrial scenes. Here's a video I made back in March showing the dock crane swinging around, along with the Orobr clockwork stationary power plant cranked up next to it.

Just wonderful!

George

Robert S. Butler posted:

George, So with the addition of the American Flyer Great Northern Boxcar does that give you the complete run of all of the larger lithographed Flyer freight cars (4 boxcars, 4 gondolas, the flat with lumber, and the tank car)?

Hi Robert,

I am still missing the NYC and PRR gondolas and the tank car. I missed out on an NYC gondola recently on a Buy it Now auction.

Until you mentioned it, I was not even aware of the PRR gondola. I set out to collect just the boxcars, then bought a gondola, then got the other gondola and log car by accident in a large auction lot. The tank car was also recently on eBay. I have never seen the PRR gondola except in the book. There is a 3025 crane too, but Greenberg says this is part of the 3200 series.

George

George, that's great.  I see by your post on the other thread that you were able to get the GN for a reasonable price.  It also sounds like the apparent large rust spot on one side wasn't - that's even better.

  With regards to the tank car there are two variations which have to do with the way the handrails are attached.

  There is the 5 stanchion version

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and the three stanchion version

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...and there are a couple of odd balls that are out there.

This one has a complete overprint of black litho which covers up all of the script American Flyer label.  If you look at the car in reflected sunlight it looks like the litho for the "American Flyer Tank Line" part did not print correctly - that is there are pics in the litho surface.  I've only seen this single car but there have to be more out there - no one would just run an overprint for a single car

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The second one has to be a tool test car - it is the old lithography but it has holes punched for ladders/platforms and nameplates which were part of the enameled tank cars which were manufactured later.  It is easy to see this car never had these things attached. I've seen one other car like this but, again, there have to be more out there.

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Robert S. Butler posted:

George, that's great.  I see by your post on the other thread that you were able to get the GN for a reasonable price.  It also sounds like the apparent large rust spot on one side wasn't - that's even better.

 


 

 

There is a little rust on the other side. I don't think it's too bad, but the car is not a high end collectible.

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George

 

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Robert S. Butler posted:

George, that's great.  I see by your post on the other thread that you were able to get the GN for a reasonable price.  It also sounds like the apparent large rust spot on one side wasn't - that's even better.

  With regards to the tank car there are two variations which have to do with the way the handrails are attached.

  There is the 5 stanchion version

Car_AF_Tank_9_inch_5Stanchion

and the three stanchion version

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...and there are a couple of odd balls that are out there.

This one has a complete overprint of black litho which covers up all of the script American Flyer label.  If you look at the car in reflected sunlight it looks like the litho for the "American Flyer Tank Line" part did not print correctly - that is there are pics in the litho surface.  I've only seen this single car but there have to be more out there - no one would just run an overprint for a single car

Car_AF_Tank_9_inch_Error

The second one has to be a tool test car - it is the old lithography but it has holes punched for ladders/platforms and nameplates which were part of the enameled tank cars which were manufactured later.  It is easy to see this car never had these things attached. I've seen one other car like this but, again, there have to be more out there.

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This is great Robert! I do want a litho tank car. Doubt I will try to get all of the variations. What you have amazes me!

These tankers were far less common than the 3210's. The story is that the litho cars did not sell well. So, AF did not make them for very long and then switched to the enameled cars.

George

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