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I found this CIWL Pullman car on German eBay made by the small French manufacturer Fournereau. It is not in the best condition and I had to repair and touch up some things, but it is better looking than the one in the book on Fournereau and all lettering was still there. I have never seen another one, so I think it is quite rare in any condition (even in France, Daniel?). I assume this is from the thirties.

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Fred

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Nice car Fred and you are right not so comon even in France especially in nice condition.

The paint was apply on metal without any primer so with time it tends to flack.  Another problem is finding the right decals, I must have original ones but they are dry and impossible to use.

Your car with that specific CIWL marking may be from the thirties or even later, they were avalaibles through the fifties. I have a sleeping car similar to your except it has a wooden roof.

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Daniel 

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Robert S. Butler posted:

American Flyer Uncatalogued set from 1937 - Engine has mechanical whistle and the tender is the standard coal tender with an extra long drawbar.

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...and the box contents

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Beautiful set, Robert. Any idea the popularity or production percentage differences between the round back and the square back locomotives?

hiawatha pair round and square

 

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The Hoge 990 Tom Thumb trains were offered in turquoise and were headed by black 990 loco and tender. None of its parts interchange with the larger 900,500 or 1000 streamliners although you could play mix and match with the 750 circus trains and the 990 freight sets.

990 loco and tender from set990 5 car set w transformer

They do however interchange with the yellow 881 tom thumb set, which used a boxcab loco.

881 tom thumb set

881 engine with 990 pullmans

750 circus set w transformer w 1904 caboose tom thumb freight set stout

Those photos represent about $3000 in sales from auctions in the last 6 years.

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Here is a mock up of an Ives Knickerbocker set. (There is one extra car from what would have been in an the original Knickerbocker set)  The cars are repainted 133-134 cars and the engine is a 3254 which may also be a repaint. The real Knickerbocker set was pulled by a black and red 3261.

Sorry for the fuzzy first photo.  I will try to get a better one and post a video later in the weekend.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Jim O'C  I'm not aware of any differences with respect to production quantity of the square vs the rounded end AF tinplate Hiawatha engine. Greenberg doesn't indicate any differences in production quantity either.  My personal observations from various trains shows also does not skew one way or the other with respect to square or round back engines.

some af things that have found there way to my house lately,4644 runs like a bat,,,,probly repaint but good for me,,,,will do a vid tomorrow with the cars,,,,,orphan blue and chrome streamlines,,,,just pickup the chrome,,,really nice shape,,,,and the small af cars ,were to cute to pass on,,,oh my,,,,,i need help,,calling dr York !!!IMGP2489IMGP2490IMGP2491IMGP2492IMGP2493IMGP2494IMGP2495

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sncf231e posted:

I found this CIWL Pullman car on German eBay made by the small French manufacturer Fournereau. It is not in the best condition and I had to repair and touch up some things, but it is better looking than the one in the book on Fournereau and all lettering was still there.

Regards

Fred

Had a run with it today:

Regards

Fred

Last Sunday at a small train show in the center of France I bought this nice little set from LR.

That makes it interesting is that  it has a classic 040 loco tender with SNCF markings which allows to date it from 1939-40 period with automatic couplers; toy production stopped in 1940-41 due to the war period and this model was never reintroduced after. The first models of this engine bears the PLM logo which dates from 1934-38.

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Second interesting fact is the beer refrigerator car. Non prototypical colors but a nice little logo with “Biere du Lion” or lion beer. So much less colorful than the American models but it is the only one model produced in France with a beer logo ….. wine cars are much more common….

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Have a great tinplate weekend,    Daniel

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Happy Friday!   So it looks like we have taken the thread from last week and changed the date to this week.  That works for me.  It makes for more great tinplate photos in one place.

Last week I was going to try to post a clearer photo of my mock up Ives Knickerbocker set and a video. Obviously that didn't happen so here it is this week. 

 

 

 

The really exciting thing is that the appropriate Ives #3261 showed up to pull the train.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

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Thanks Dave,

I was thinking of the beautiful job you did on your set the whole time I was posting my set last week. I really like this color combination. 

One of the things about playing with vintage trains is that they have their own personality.  One minute they will be running beautifully and the next minute they might throw themselves off the track.  

Shortly after I finished taking the video:

"Oh the humanity!"  

At this rate I might have to rename the set "The Knicked up Knickerbocker"   

(No trains were harmed in the filming of this video.)

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

 

funny thing happened on the way to the repaint table,,,,i got this repainted #9 ,which was much better than the pix,,,,,only the top was repainted black,i wanted to paint it the special cream/red trim like the rare #8 set,got the paint,then got the loco,,,,,,it matches the franks roundhouse red/black trans cars,,,the cars are abit small,but I will find another donor body,,,,i have one,,,,IMGP2502IMGP2503 

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Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Happy Friday!   So it looks like we have taken the thread from last week and changed the date to this week.  That works for me.  It makes for more great tinplate photos in one place.

 

Greg

Now I see; I thought there was no weekend-tinplate-photos-videos-thread this week.

A friend gave me a small  Hachette crane truck a couple of days ago.  Hornby France made in their M series of smaller 0 gauge trains between 1930 and 1940 a four wheel crane truck. The French publisher Hachette made a series of replicas of French Hornby trains including this crane truck. This crane looks similar to the Hornby M0 crane as the picture shows, but is a bit bigger:

The Hachette replicas do have correct looks, however they are made from very thin tinplate and thus a bit flimsy. Length of the car is 12 cm.

I updated my e-book on cranes, including also this Hachette one. The new version can be seen or downloaded here:

http://sncf231e.nl/crane-trucks/

Regards

Fred

 

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sncf231e posted:
Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Happy Friday!   So it looks like we have taken the thread from last week and changed the date to this week.  That works for me.  It makes for more great tinplate photos in one place.

 

Greg

Now I see; I thought there was no weekend-tinplate-photos-videos-thread this week.

A friend gave me a small  Hachette crane truck a couple of days ago.  Hornby France made in their M series of smaller 0 gauge trains between 1930 and 1940 a four wheel crane truck. The French publisher Hachette made a series of replicas of French Hornby trains including this crane truck. This crane looks similar to the Hornby M0 crane as the picture shows, but is a bit bigger:

The Hachette replicas do have correct looks, however they are made from very thin tinplate and thus a bit flimsy. Length of the car is 12 cm.

I updated my e-book on cranes, including also this Hachette one. The new version can be seen or downloaded here:

http://sncf231e.nl/crane-trucks/

Regards

Fred

 

I believe the red crane was attached to issue #37 of the Grand Train Adventure. They also offered a crane car with issue # 20.

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