For me, it will be the BNSF Coal Train Set (Wish they would do other unit trains besides coal and tankers) and a few of the SD70MACS.....Kind of pricey though for the non powered Super Bass units, I wanted to get a few to go behind some of my older Legacy/TMCC MACS.
What about everyone else?
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Can't afford anything from that catalog!
I was very happy to see Mr Muffins is doing some custom runs of the 2-8-0 steam locomotives in the Lionel V2 2021 catalog. I just pre-ordered the L&N. I hope Mr Muffins gets enough pre-orders for me to get the L&N one.
And I am strongly considering the hobo boxcar, though I wish it were offered in more southern railroad options.
Love the Strassburg #90, but the minimum radius and really high price stand in the way for it to happen for me.
Thinking about C-Liner(s) and New Haven passenger cars. Will need some more shelving 
. $500 each for the locos and $150 each for passenger cars is pretty much the going rate from Charles Ro on pre-orders, but they don't charge until they ship, which is the only way I'd pre-order. Not inexpensive, but not ungodly expensive for a Legacy loco and passenger cars these days. And not strikingly more expensive than the Premier locos these days from MTH. And MTH doesn't have the overhead any longer of running a full line, full service train company .
Nothing.
Items over the 60’ mark look odd in O scale to me unless you have a large layout to support it. Still waiting for the last delayed offerings to appear. CNJ Kitchen car and Roof hatch C of G.
Going forward, I would have to see new boxcar tooling before I would support these price increases. It would be a “must have” new item never offered in O before. Muffin is on track with items like an EL transition scheme line up and Pats CNJ RS-1 which both should have been offered years ago by MTH.
Maybe the Western Pacific 2-8-0 Consolidation. It’s not priced through the roof and I don’t have a WP steamer. That would be it though.
Oh, those prices!
Special run Wabash 2-8-0 from Mr Muffin. Need 20 pre-orders to make it happen - if you are a Wabash fan, please get your order in so we can make this happen.
#90, (1) 2 car set Strasburg woodside #62 & #59 and the Philadelphia & Reading observation car placed on pre-order
Nothing is must have for me. The Christmas barn though will go nicely with the Santa Shay.
Pre Ordering a Maine Central consolidation, New Haven C-liner, New Haven station sounds diner. I may go for another C-liner and NH passenger cars once they ship.
Thanks but no thanks! I will not spend that much for anything sight unseen, MTO.
In fact, I would never buy any of this overpriced stuff, even at my now non-existent LHS!
On to York!
Nothing. If they made the North Pole central caboose without the camera for ~$100 I would have bit, but they made it with the camera and the added Expense.
I ordered the Canadian National C liner, both numbers. All the Hy cube box cars minus graffitti. And both hobo box cars............................Paul 2
Ordered some items and now thinking about BNSF SD70MACs. Maybe the coal train.
Looking at the NYC 2-8-0 otherwise nothing else
Thought about the Amtrak units, but don't think I'd be satisfied with the look of the LC versions. So only thing so far is the special run Southern 2-8-0 from Legacy Station. Previous catalog I pre-ordered nothing, then after seeing the Southern E8's kind of regretted it, but a local train shop had the set, price was ok.
Lionel Lines 773
P&R business car and Reading hoppers.
@paul 2 posted:I ordered the Canadian National C liner, both numbers. All the Hy cube box cars minus graffitti. And both hobo box cars............................Paul 2
I also ordered a C liner, but only 6705. With a Canadian National F3 pair soon to arrive from 3rd Rail, I had to tell myself to only order 1. Ironically I had ordered the MTH set back around 2002, but cancelled.
NYC Consolidation #960.
Was considering #90 but with the cars and all that would severely cripple my train budget for 2021 and 2022. So I'll stick with the more modestly priced New York Central and be able to look for more NYC items in 2022.
Im looking at the FM C-Liner demonstrators
PRR SD45 Superbase unit
EMD Demo Superbase unit
Ford and Ann Arbor Autoparts behemoths
PRR 1890 passenger set.
Im "on the fence" about #90 with red& gold rail logo and 1990's open end passenger set.
Since Murphy is my Gov, I know from experience the PRR and Strasburg RR set will arrive the same time. And thats a 2k hit for The pax sets that I really can't take a hit all at once!
Strasburg #90 (red roof, pinstripes).
I want the new BNSF Coal Train Set, the BNSF SD70MAC #9647 (AKA: The Vomit Bonnet), the BNSF Patched BN SD70MAC, the BNSF H3 SD70MAC, or the BNSF SW1200. I will probably just get the BNSF Coal Train Set. The SW1200s are nice, and I could use a smaller diesel switcher on a future layout. Plus the SD70MACs will run on O36 Curves, which is what I have now.
UP DD35A #77
I ordered - ahem - quite a bit (i.e, everything) of S.P. locs ++ from the 2020 catalog. Great product that works. Hey! Product quality is uniformly good.
From this catalog:
1. The throw-back 773 as I have all previous Lionel 773 offerings (I believe four from 1950 on) and this looks to be beauty in LionChief 2.0. Does anybody really need more than that?
2. The 4276 Cab Forward / Grey Boiler. A beauty!
3. Possible ... S.P. 4-12-2
4. Possible ... Grand Canyon set. Nice.
Great catalog. Thanks, Ryan and Dave!
I'm ordering P&R car 10. I'd love to do the who 90 set with the Strasburg cars, but just cannot do it right now.
LIRR c-liners with cars & a cab forward
I’m getting the DD35 #77 and a Genesis. I’m debating on the 4-12-2, but don’t know what to think about the exposed wires.
I also preordered a NKP 2-8-0 from Mr. Muffins. Hope they get enough preorders to make the custom runs.
For those getting the C-Liners, what is the biggest draw to getting them? I hadn’t heard of them before this week. I read a little about the engines but wanted to hear from the folks who preordered why you are excited about them. (The demonstrators are nice looking)
ordered a bunch of stuff - hopefully won't all arrive at same time!
Ordered HLMX and CN 86' graffiti boxcars and the CP camera caboose from Charles Ro. The caboose is way overpriced, but I have been looking for that paint scheme for a long time.
I have the UP and CSX 86' graffiti boxcars from a previous run , and they are superb
Nothing of interest to me.
First, I love the catalogs! For many years, all I could afford was the catalog, it really was and still is a "dream book". If I could pick one item, it would be the Hustle Muscle Freight Set. I did get the Great Northern version of the SD45 engine and really liked it. The freight cars are all desirable, especially the SP&S Caboose. I have the MTH version of it, but this on has the camera. I tend to focus on railroads that operated in the Pacific Northwest and this set checks all the boxes...
My deepest thanks to the Lionel Team for their efforts to keep our dreams alive during a most challenging environment due to the COVID19 shutdowns. So, the only way to truly say "Thanks" is to call my friends at Eastside Trains in Kirkland and place an order for this set! Best,
Not much, was hoping for the 20th Century Limited.
Short list of considerations
2233088 - BN SD45 Super Bass
2226010 - Erie Hobo Sound Car
2226290 - NYC Flat car with fire truck
I like the PRR SD45s. However, I need to do some research on them before I order. Not sure.
I’ll probably get the C&I two bay hoppers. That line was in my back yard so I feel obligated.
I'm going to get the Cambria & Indiana bicentennial coal set
Possibly the add on 2-bay hopper add on pack
The reading 2-bay hopper pack
Possibly the Norfolk southern 2-bay hopper pack
And one of the hobo sound cars
@rthomps posted:I ordered - ahem - quite a bit (i.e, everything) of S.P. locs ++ from the 2020 catalog. Great product that works. Hey! Product quality is uniformly good.
From this catalog:
1. The throw-back 773 as I have all previous Lionel 773 offerings (I believe four from 1950 on) and this looks to be beauty in LionChief 2.0. Does anybody really need more than that?
2. The 4276 Cab Forward / Grey Boiler. A beauty!
3. Possible ... S.P. 4-12-2
4. Possible ... Grand Canyon set. Nice.
Great catalog. Thanks, Ryan and Dave!
RT, you do know that 773 is the small Hudson? Not a 773 semi-scale?
I did not find any items of particular interest in this catalog. I was intrigued by the introduction of a GE P42, but would have been interested in a scale version of it to pull my GGD Amfleet and Viewliners.
However, outside of a random purchase here and there, I am getting close to the point of train saturation in having accurate models of nearly everything I'm interested in. I can't believe I'm actually writing that. 
A few things, highlights of which are the Lionel Lines 773 and the Strasburg #90. A couple accessories.
Lots of cool stuff in this catalog. I'm sure I will find some more things. Just wanted to be sure to get those two ordered
Hard maybe on one of the Strasburg no. 90’s. The prices for them are very high, but since it’s a very popular and well known locomotive it’s also anyone’s guess how many of these (especially the paint scheme I want) will stay on the dealers’ shelves when they arrive.
More than likely I will preorder a few of the Strasburg wooden passenger cars however, since I have a good feeling those won’t stay in stock for long when they arrive next year…
@Darrell posted:Can't afford anything from that catalog!
Once again I didn't find a thing that interested me, but that is me. Plus I am not interested in fake or fantasy trains like a Milwaukee Road 4-12-2! Let alone the price and Lionel's prices in general. Incredible increases.
I pre-ordered an Erie Hobo Sound boxcar. 
@Johnsgg1 posted:RT, you do know that 773 is the small Hudson? Not a 773 semi-scale?
John…now I’m going to have to re-visit that.
Thanks from an old AOL buddy.
SP #4294 Cabforward - Missed this model last time it was released and not missing it again. Not cheap, but pre-order pricing puts it below what the 2014 release is going for on the aftermarket.
Plus, this model was $1550 when first released in 2005. Adjusted for inflation, that $2,150 in today's dollars, above the $2000 msrp and way above the pre-order pricing.
May also grab the SP CA-1 caboose and a superbass SD70 but I'll need to see it in person first and I'm sure dealers will order plenty to get one later.
I ordered the Strasburg #90 , the two sets of Strasburg Passenger cars and the Paradise observation car. Thankfully they won’t be here for a year,lol
I'll also be grabbing a Cab Forward as well as a BNSF Superbass SD70.
@Will Ebbert posted:I'll also be grabbing a Cab Forward as well as a BNSF Superbass SD70.
A man with taste!
I'm hoping the SD70mac is from the tooling acquired from MTH. Lionel's 70mac tooling is quite dated, and MTH's, while not the latest, is much better.
What would be really nice is if anyone could get the rights (or even physically find) the tooling to the K-Line SD70mac/SD75m...
1990's version Strasburg #90 (red roof, pinstripes) is my "Holy Grail" locomotive! I've been wanting this made for over 30 years. Not a fan of the heavy price, but it may be a long long time before we see it again, even though the catalog says more variations are coming in the future. I'm not going to hang my engineer's hat on that! Luckily I already have the MTH Strasburg wood sided passenger car set.
The "B" list includes: PRR and Milwaukee Road SuperBass SD45 BNSF Coal Train set and add on hoppers Tough Guy Gym and Fitness building - (I got a chuckle out of that!)
I like the 2-8-0's but have too many preorders looming. Same for a UP 4-12-2's, I always liked the big steam but never pulled the trigger on them.
@GG1 4877 posted:......However, outside of a random purchase here and there, I am getting close to the point of train saturation in having accurate models of nearly everything I'm interested in. I can't believe I'm actually writing that.
I'm feeling the same way, Jonathan. Now it's time to reallocate funds towards layout building expenses. But those darn catalogs and dealer custom offerings keep getting in my way!!
@Catonsville Central Railway posted:A man with taste!
I'm hoping the SD70mac is from the tooling acquired from MTH. Lionel's 70mac tooling is quite dated, and MTH's, while not the latest, is much better.
What would be really nice is if anyone could get the rights (or even physically find) the tooling to the K-Line SD70mac/SD75m...
Atlas purchased the MTH SD70MAC tooling.
Really like that EMD SD-45 in the demo scheme and a set of those Reading hopper cars - Also maybe one of the SW 1200 switchers
Strasburg #90-1990s paint scheme, and a two pack of woodside coaches, I own 4 of the MTH Strasburg cars so I'll be happy with 6 cars. Price tags is steep, but I've wanted #90 since I was little, so I have a while to save up for it. Other than that probably nothing else, already got other stuff on preorder.
I'm taking a long hard look at the 4-12-2. It hits my criteria of being a cool looking loco and it's interesting in design/history. The three chuffs thing is pretty awesome and very unique. I think I might go for it in the C&O scheme. I like that they offer that fake scheme because it helps me shoe horn the locomotive into the story of my layout. Granted, I don't think that thing could navigate most of the bends around Appalachia.
Maybe the Santa Fe 2-8-0. Would be nice have that smaller steam engine with whistle steam in my ATSF stable. I basically have at least one road number of all 3rd Rail, Lionel and MTH O scale steam engines. Why stop now? Otherwise, nothing.
I ordered the special run 2-8-0 Southern from Legacy Station. I may order some other things too.
I'm disappointed that Lionel is not offering a Super Bass SD70MAC for NS. 
The only thing I will be ordering is the North Pole Central Cupolacam Caboose.
I’ve ordered the NKP Consolidation from Mr. Muffins. Hopefully it gets made and doesn’t need its smoke/fire boxes repainted out of the box.
If it doesn’t make the cut, my preorders will be zero. Not complaining, but for all the double-secret hoopla around new tooling and the like, I thought the catalog was a bit “just okay.”
I realize it’s a home run for the Strasburg guys and I’m happy they are finally getting their long-sought release(s).
Lionel better not put their new coupler design on the freshly acquired CA-1 caboose offerings. I might get a yellow UP one if they turn out okay. I will be keeping an eye on the NYC 2-8-0 as a possibility also, pending smokebox paint, etc.
Hobo car, I just had to have it. I have a hobo scene. Not sure if I'm just going to junk it at the scene or have them ride the rails.
The only thing so far is the special run Southern 2-8-0 from Legacy Station number 630 which is a current operating locomotive in Chattanooga at TVRR. I am considering an L&N custom run 2-8-0 at Mr. Muffins.
However, outside of a random purchase here and there, I am getting close to the point of train saturation in having accurate models of nearly everything I'm interested in. I can't believe I'm actually writing that.
Jonathan
Jonathan, I suspect we all go through that, so I sell off my oldest to make room for the newest and greatest!
But from this catalog, the biggest disappointment for me was that a long awaited Genesis diesel was in the LionChief line, not the Legacy line. And I am waiting for the hard copy catalog to arrive so I can see if the Grand Canyon Railway set has cars with the proper Harrriman roofs - I cannot tell from the online graphic. If so, that is my buy. Steamer #29, although their generic model, is close enough, with a couple of changes, does a pretty good job of looking like the real item.
@shorling posted:Hobo car, I just had to have it. I have a hobo scene. Not sure if I'm just going to junk it at the scene or have them ride the rails.
I think the sounds will be interesting. Sadly neither of the road names interest me so I'll wait and hope they do more.
I'll probably get the Hobo car to but Lionel really needs to re-issue this. The best Hobo accessory ever.
After careful consideration, I may take a pass on this one. I'm not a Legacy guy and run mostly conventional and PW so the target for me is something along the Lion Chief Plus 2.0 line and selected rolling stock. The Lionel Lines 773 steamer and the Amtrak Genesis, both in 2.0, caught my eye but neither are must haves.
I usually wait a few weeks to get my hands on the hard copy catalog and give it another once over before the pre-order deadline and then decide. So we'll see.
I'm still awaiting on two Lionel legacy SD60ace locomotives from the last catalog so orders are light. But, I did order the Lionel Lines 773 LC 2.0 plus locomotive (I still love postwar) and I ordered the CP Cupola Cam caboose ( I think this is a cool idea).
@MartyE posted:I'll probably get the Hobo car to but Lionel really needs to re-issue this. The best Hobo accessory ever.
I like it MartyE !! My hobo scene has the camp fires, shack, junk and hobo's of course. It located under the elevated adjacent to a site frequented by the mob to dispose of the "unwanted". Sadly, a water tower will not fit.
ZERO, NOTHING.
@Will Ebbert posted:I think the sounds will be interesting. Sadly neither of the road names interest me so I'll wait and hoe they do more.
I felt the same way but I settled for Eire. I think I'd be waiting a long time for New Haven hobo's.
@superwarp1 posted:ZERO, NOTHING.
Well there's always the MTH volume II, 2021 catalog 
@PeterA posted:However, outside of a random purchase here and there, I am getting close to the point of train saturation in having accurate models of nearly everything I'm interested in. I can't believe I'm actually writing that.
Jonathan
Jonathan, I suspect we all go through that, so I sell off my oldest to make room for the newest and greatest!
But from this catalog, the biggest disappointment for me was that a long awaited Genesis diesel was in the LionChief line, not the Legacy line. And I am waiting for the hard copy catalog to arrive so I can see if the Grand Canyon Railway set has cars with the proper Harrriman roofs - I cannot tell from the online graphic. If so, that is my buy. Steamer #29, although their generic model, is close enough, with a couple of changes, does a pretty good job of looking like the real item.
I suspect it will be the same tooling as the Reading cars, so roofs will be wrong for Harriman.
I just added a custom run 2-8-0 pre-order from Mr. Muffins; Canadian National 2616. He needs 20 pre-orders, so this may or may not make it into production.
@SouthernFan56 posted:The only thing so far is the special run Southern 2-8-0 from Legacy Station number 630 which is a current operating locomotive in Chattanooga at TVRR. I am considering an L&N custom run 2-8-0 at Mr. Muffins.
I placed my order with them the other day. Can't wait for it.
I'm looking at the unpowered EMD demonstrator SD45 with Super Bass. I can run it with any road power and enjoy the enhanced sound. It will go along just fine with my EL SD45s , U-Boats or as back in EL's day, just about anything. Part of the attraction is the fact that I had one in N Scale many years ago and always liked the paint scheme.
Looking at the C Liners - both of the New Havens, or maybe a NH and a Long Island (I have passenger cars I could run with either). Luckily I have a few weeks to make up my mind... or come to my senses
well the C liners do look good. Maybe a 2 car set of Strasberg cars to run with other Strasberg cars.
Ordered the special run of CN #2616 2-8-0 from MrMuffins. I've been putting more money into purchase of old-stock at pre-2021 prices to fill in missed opportunities while they're still available, esp. of passenger sets. I may add a hobo car and the CP cupola cam caboose.
I ordered the Rock Island hobo sound car.
Should make my boxcar rig extra fun.
I preordered the Grand Canyon set with the add-on passenger cars and two 160th anniversary box cars for UP and the Great Locomotive Chase. I plan on doing a product review on the set and maybe even the two box cars.
Has anyone seen the print version of the new catalog yet. Is it in the stores?
@Howard Reed posted:Has anyone seen the print version of the new catalog yet. Is it in the stores?
Yep, picked one up yesterday, 7/22.
Steve
All three SD45 Demonstrators. I'm a sucker for demonstrators but da** three more Lionel locomotives to rip out the guts and replace with Sunset. Means I have to reserve 3 more Sunset F45s.
@rdunniii posted:All three SD45 Demonstrators. I'm a sucker for demonstrators but da** three more Lionel locomotives to rip out the guts and replace with Sunset. Means I have to reserve 3 more Sunset F45s.
Next to the Strasburg, these are the other gems in the catalog.
Michael Corleone: "Just when I thought I was out...they PULL me back in."
Custom Run Canadian National 2-8-0 from Mr. Muffin who needs a minimum of 20 pre-orders, so please 🙏 get your orders in asap.
PS - I've been wanting this Consolidation (and waiting patiently) for over 30 years.
@shorling posted:Hobo car, I just had to have it. I have a hobo scene. Not sure if I'm just going to junk it at the scene or have them ride the rails.
I have the original hobo car with harmonica sound. I like very much. I’m sure this will add to your layout.
I ordered the Pennsylvania C-Liner. I have already been told by the rivet-counters that it is not prototypical. I don’t care. I think it’s nice and will look great pulling some Streamliner coaches.
nothing
my money isn't solid enough to know exactly what trains to buy and i hardly have comfortable space to work with what i already own
at this point i can only take whatever falls in my lap although my godfather doesn't want me buying used locomotives anymore unless i know 100 percent that they work
@PH1975 posted:Custom Run Canadian National 2-8-0 from Mr. Muffin who needs a minimum of 20 pre-orders, so please 🙏 get your orders in asap.
PS - I've been wanting this Consolidation (and waiting patiently) for over 30 years.
On this thread, we are 3. Let's hope we can get to 20.
@Oman posted:On this thread, we are 3. Let's hope we can get to 20.
Hi guys, I am going to be a team player on this one and so I just ordered the Canadian National 2-8-0 from Mr Muffin.😉
I’m going to get the Hobo box car probably the Erie, and I’m looking at getting the L&N 2-8-0 Steamer because I live in L&N country. I will have to see how my budget looks in the next few weeks. I think I have a few trains I could sell to help even out my budget. Great question, waiting on the real catalog. Happy Railroading Everyone
Maybe the Erie hobo box car and maybe the NY Central Consolidation. Not too much in there for folks like me with small layouts.
@ChooChoo1972 posted:Maybe the Erie hobo box car and maybe the NY Central Consolidation. Not too much in there for folks like me with small layouts.
I know. I have a small layout. But, the C-Liner will work on O-31 curves and a B unit is coming. So I had to have it.
Looking at the Grand Canyon set.
@jrstengel posted:Looking at the Grand Canyon set.
I would buy it but those scale passenger cars are too long for my layout
Absolutely nothing...zip...nada.
My attention...even prior to the July 15 announcement...has shifted to the secondary market for past gems. Which are, IMHO, becoming even more gem-like every day.
Folks like Pat (Harmonyards) have convinced me that recycling older, well-built/detailed 'bones' is more appealing...financially, as well as technically/aesthetically...than pining for a catalog announcement that increases the heart rate...from desire () OR sticker shock (
)!!!
Speaking of the heart...folks like Pat, Alex, Gunrunner, et al, are, IMHO, our hobby's renowned 'cardiologists'. I'm not sure that the lingering hoopla over TMCC vs. DCS will ever be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. But, should my favorite vision...Battery Power with DCC...ever gain enough traction to be in their surgical repertoire, I'll have the beautiful, affordable 'bones' for their surgical skills.
And, meanwhile, the conventional performance suffices for my enjoyment.
TEHO, though. Enjoy the catalog.
KD
@RixTrack posted:I would buy it but those scale passenger cars are too long for my layout
It will definitely be running on the outer loop with those passenger cars.
@jrstengel posted:It will definitely be running on the outer loop with those passenger cars.
I have the MTH 60’ Pennsylvania cars and they are too long. I wish I never bought them.
@RixTrack posted:I know. I have a small layout. But, the C-Liner will work on O-31 curves and a B unit is coming. So I had to have it.
I haven't had much time on the forum lately. Is the B unit confirmed? Powered or Superbass? Is there a post to reference? Thanks!
@dkdkrd posted:Absolutely nothing...zip...nada.
My attention...even prior to the July 15 announcement...has shifted to the secondary market for past gems. Which are, IMHO, becoming even more gem-like every day.
Folks like Pat (Harmonyards) have convinced me that recycling older, well-built/detailed 'bones' is more appealing...financially, as well as technically/aesthetically...than pining for a catalog announcement that increases the heart rate...from desire (
Speaking of the heart...folks like Pat, Alex, Gunrunner, et al, are, IMHO, our hobby's renowned 'cardiologists'. I'm not sure that the lingering hoopla over TMCC vs. DCS will ever be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. But, should my favorite vision...Battery Power with DCC...ever gain enough traction to be in their surgical repertoire, I'll have the beautiful, affordable 'bones' for their surgical skills.
And, meanwhile, the conventional performance suffices for my enjoyment.
TEHO, though. Enjoy the catalog.
KD
Thanks for the reminder to relook the Lionel catalog. I ordered the CN 2-8-0 limited production from Mr. Muffin and now I have decided to add the Maine Central 2-8-0. So now I will have two 2-8-0 arriving around the same time!
I ordered the Maine Central 2-8-0 from Lionel's webstore, you get them first that way direct from Lionel. However, you do pay full retail from Lionel. But, it doesn't bother me since we do need to support our remaining train companies with new purchases.
I have two loops on my layout and I think both 2-8-0s will look great running side by side around North Adams MA. NOTE: Someone asked if I posted TRAIN pictures. I said I did but he could not remember seeing them... so
@RixTrack posted:I know. I have a small layout. But, the C-Liner will work on O-31 curves and a B unit is coming. So I had to have it.
Thanks, I may consider one in NYC or LIRR livery. Good to know there is still some stuff for 031.
The 86 foot auto parts boxcars caught my attention.
Badge 109 - Regarding your query about C-Liner 'B' units, I don't see anything stated about them in the latest catalog. That said, this seems to be the practice of Lionel (and other manufacturers) in the recent past, so it's 'assumed' B units will eventually be forthcoming. However, you know the old saying about when you 'assume'.
Although I didn't see Ryan and Dave's video unveiling of the catalog, maybe they mentioned something about future 'B' units. If so, perhaps someone on the Forum who saw their catalog reveal will clarify this for you (and me).
@PH1975 posted:Badge 109 - Regarding your query about C-Liner 'B' units, I don't see anything stated about them in the latest catalog. That said, this seems to be the practice of Lionel (and other manufacturers) in the recent past, so it's 'assumed' B units will eventually be forthcoming. However, you know the old saying about when you 'assume'.
Although I didn't see Ryan and Dave's video unveiling of the catalog, maybe they mentioned something about future 'B' units. If so, perhaps someone on the Forum who saw their catalog reveal will clarify this for you (and me).
B units will be coming out according to Ryan. He mentioned it at least twice. There will also be additional liveries and wheel counts.
There's a couple of steam engines I like but they have priced me out of their market.
Nothing from this catalog. Or possibly from future catalogs unless they decide to complete the Funeral Train with the UP 2066 Generator Car. It's not that I don't like what's in the catalogs, But my monies are currently going to my 70 Chevelle restoration project. Priorities.....
C liner B units will be in a later release when they do the 4 axle version. None of the currently offered C-liner schemes had B units. They were single A units equipped with passenger steam generators. The 5th axle on the rear truck was added to support the weight of generator.
I would not be surprised if we see super bass B units for roads that had them such as PRR in DGLE for a future run. Don’t quote me on that. It’s just a guess.
Dj's - Did not Canadian National run C-Liner 'AA' engine sets? I seem to recall seeing CN AA photos while looking through a railroad history book in our local library, although that was a few years ago and my memory's not as good as it used to be. 
@PH1975 posted:Dj's - Did not Canadian National run C-Liner 'AA' engine sets? I seem to recall seeing CN AA photos while looking through a railroad history book in our local library, although that was a few years ago and my memory's not as good as it used to be.
I’m not a CN expert, but I’m sure they did, NY central would sometimes run an AA set of C-liners. They would also be seen MU’d with a variety of other diesels. I’m a Long Island RR collector and the C-liners on the island were never mu’d. They were used in east end commuter service.
What 4-12-2 did people order
@PH1975 posted:Dj's - Did not Canadian National run C-Liner 'AA' engine sets? I seem to recall seeing CN AA photos while looking through a railroad history book in our local library, although that was a few years ago and my memory's not as good as it used to be.
Rusty
Nothing. I am doubling my money by folding it in half and putting it back in my pocket.
I am not a typical Lionel customer though I have nothing against the company or its products. I am just not Lionel's typical demographic and at this point.
2-8-0 in Maine Central livery and the Rock Island Hobo car.
I would LOVE the MEC 2-8-0 but I model two rail and do not want to go through the expense of converting it. With MTH out of the game I think my days of buying stuff from any of the "big manufacturers" are history. I may need my train money this year to heat my house, looks like inflation is what I am buying from the Lionel catalog.
Very fortunate nothing there for me. Have pretty much what I need. Man alive, the prices. Simple boxcars (throw ins back in the day) command some big dollars. Wait until next catalog. Only want GP7 or 9 in UP to build a 2 or 3 engine lash up.
@Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:Very fortunate nothing there for me. Have pretty much what I need. Man alive, the prices. Simple boxcars (throw ins back in the day) command some big dollars. Wait until next catalog. Only want GP7 or 9 in UP to build a 2 or 3 engine lash up.
Didn't they do a UP GP9 a few years ago ?
@dkdkrd posted:My attention...even prior to the July 15 announcement...has shifted to the secondary market for past gems.
Pretty well saturated here, too. As to past "gems," I'm in that place, also. I have a fair number on that list, more than enough to drain the wallet. Will make exceptions for the right thing, like a Soo Line Geep in their wine red scheme and a LC+2 J. STILL waiting for Lionel to do that one.
@Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:Very fortunate nothing there for me. Have pretty much what I need. Man alive, the prices. Simple boxcars (throw ins back in the day) command some big dollars. Wait until next catalog. Only want GP7 or 9 in UP to build a 2 or 3 engine lash up.
@Richie C. posted:Didn't they do a UP GP9 a few years ago ?
And before that, the No. 28567 UP Scale Legacy GP7.
Norfolk Southern SD45 and super bass NS dummy. Really looking forward to something NS set up to run long hood forward.
NYC FM C Liner
Wow, earlier I was going to get an L&N 2-8-0 consolidation but, it was canceled, so another forum sponsor is having the B&O 2-8-0 consolidation steamer made, I’ll get it, and the Erie hobo car and also a at the last minute the #13 USS Safety First SW1200 switcher… Rumor has it that early ordering is the least expensive way to buy these trains. So, get your orders in. Happy Railroading Everyone
@breezinup posted:And before that, the No. 28567 UP Scale Legacy GP7.
9 years is more than a few. I think I an going to have Timco do my magnetraction to traction tires. TMCC is fine for now
I decided I wanted the Amtrak 46. So that’s two locomotives, the Pennsylvania C-Liner and the Amtrak 46. According to Ryan there will be super liner cars coming soon.
I had the NKP Consolidation special run on order, but it didn’t make he cut. I’m on a rolling stock hiatus until the coupler/truck fix comes online. For the first time in nine years, I’m sitting this catalog out.
@RixTrack posted:I decided I wanted the Amtrak 46. So that’s two locomotives, the Pennsylvania C-Liner and the Amtrak 46. According to Ryan there will be super liner cars coming soon.
I was going to order that same Amtrak loco but have decided to wait. There will be a bunch of newly offered Amtrak items in the next catalog (per Ryan) including the Midnight Blue #100 Anniversary livery. That's the one I want. I think the next catalog will also have passenger cars and maybe even a set, so I'm holding off so I can see all the new offerings and decide accordingly.
I ordered 2-8-0 Southern 630 from Legacy Station, CSX Sd70 4553 and C&O 4-12-2 from Charles Ro.
@Keith Crook 020419 posted:For those getting the C-Liners, what is the biggest draw to getting them? I hadn’t heard of them before this week. I read a little about the engines but wanted to hear from the folks who preordered why you are excited about them. (The demonstrators are nice looking)
Its different from looks to sound. I have the MTH PS2 C-Liner set and love it. The demos with that 3 axle rear truck make it look unique.
@rplst8 posted:I like the PRR SD45s. However, I need to do some research on them before I order. Not sure.
Research such as?
@PeterA posted:However, outside of a random purchase here and there, I am getting close to the point of train saturation in having accurate models of nearly everything I'm interested in. I can't believe I'm actually writing that.
Jonathan
Jonathan, I suspect we all go through that, so I sell off my oldest to make room for the newest and greatest!
But from this catalog, the biggest disappointment for me was that a long awaited Genesis diesel was in the LionChief line, not the Legacy line. And I am waiting for the hard copy catalog to arrive so I can see if the Grand Canyon Railway set has cars with the proper Harrriman roofs - I cannot tell from the online graphic. If so, that is my buy. Steamer #29, although their generic model, is close enough, with a couple of changes, does a pretty good job of looking like the real item.
I wouldn't bet money on those "Harriman cars". You want Harriman, its the Golden Gate Depot cars you seek. I have a funny feeling that Lionel will just repaint & reletter Reading RR "turtleback" passenger cars to Grand Canyon
[ex SP] Sorry if I disappointed you.
@dkdkrd posted:Absolutely nothing...zip...nada.
My attention...even prior to the July 15 announcement...has shifted to the secondary market for past gems. Which are, IMHO, becoming even more gem-like every day.
Folks like Pat (Harmonyards) have convinced me that recycling older, well-built/detailed 'bones' is more appealing...financially, as well as technically/aesthetically...than pining for a catalog announcement that increases the heart rate...from desire (
Speaking of the heart...folks like Pat, Alex, Gunrunner, et al, are, IMHO, our hobby's renowned 'cardiologists'. I'm not sure that the lingering hoopla over TMCC vs. DCS will ever be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. But, should my favorite vision...Battery Power with DCC...ever gain enough traction to be in their surgical repertoire, I'll have the beautiful, affordable 'bones' for their surgical skills.
And, meanwhile, the conventional performance suffices for my enjoyment.
TEHO, though. Enjoy the catalog.
KD
I too have been focusing on past gems and upgrades. HOWEVER you have to be carefull as there are some like the
2-8-0 that can't be upgraded and one has limited choices but to sell the old and buy the new. I found this out the hard way...aint that right Gunrunner!
I’ve preordered both of the TrainWorld Exclusive Long Island C-Liners, the Nassau Hobby Center Exclusive Long Island 2-8-0, the 1990’s version of the Strasburg #90, all three two packs of 2000’s Strasburg coaches, and the two Strasburg observation cars. I’ve got some saving to do 😅😂
Grand Canyon set and the BNSF coal set. Living in Flagstaff the Grand Canyon is in my back yard. I have been waiting for Lionel to do that train for a very long time. Thanks Lionel!
Well, as someone who had clamored for the GW#90, it was disappointing to see it priced like a Big Boy....if a lot closer to the 2-8-0 that is in the catalog in price, just picked up today (late to party?....no, had called around for discounts), l would have jumped. Have that problem with the offered GW caboose, too. Too bad, for me. And l never thought it would be offered
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Research such as?
How accurate they are.
I bit the bullet and preordered the no. 90.
It was definitely a tough choice which version to get, but I finally settled on the retro egg logo version - it’s unique and definitely the dressiest version available.
I skipped on the wood passenger cars since I have a set of PRR heavyweights that’ll suit the bill fine for now.
I ordered the 3 sets of 1990's Strasburg passenger cars.
Well, it was a very bad catalog for me (good for Lionel) but as a younger person in the hobby (early 20s), I figure I might as well order it now because who knows the next time it will be made or the availability on the secondhand market in the years to come.
Here is what my dad and I pre-ordered from the Volume 2 catalog.
1 Squat, 2 nadas, 3 forgetaboutits, and of course #4 diddly squat.
@rpmcobra posted:#90, (1) 2 car set Strasburg woodside #62 & #59 and the Philadelphia & Reading observation car placed on pre-order
After some thoughts I also pre-ordered the 2 car set #60 Express Baggage and #96 Boston & Maine along with the earlier pre-order
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