Went to show...only bought two logging road books..surprised to see l drove close to one's, the Argent Lumber Co ,  HQ at Hardeeville, S.C., , driving between Charleston and Savaannah a few years ago.  Wonder if any evidence of it still exists, beyond one engine next to the town hall (in 2012, date of book)?  Beyond that one, the three foot locos have boomered all over the place since the operation shut down when $1.00 mimimum wage was established in 1956.

??Another one of THOSE!!??  What you want to sell is not what I want to buy!

Lew, wonderful Photo of the winter sunshine on your Pittsburg & Ohio central switcher!

Matt, Nice little track cleaning car you got there! The Heavyweight Pullman is a great find and looks wonderful on your layout! I am sorry about your loss of Gracie! I know they become part of the family just like my Tank!

Randy, Well Said! I hope someone is listening!

Mike

USMC 5/11 Battalion Oscar Battery 155 Big Guns!

Semper Fi !

Menards addiction Meeting member! /  LCCA# 41824

Forum Moderation posted:

Remember guys....this thread should be concentrating on "what you have done on your layout today"....  If you have running problems, issues with your trains, and general chit chat, this is not the place.  Start a new thread for those kinds of things in the appropriate category.  The mods are getting too many alerts to the bumping of this thread with tons of "comments" rather than updates on what you have done on your layout...  This is a great thread but it can't be a free for all that bumps every other topic....

With all due respect

I have been involved with model railroading for over 60 years and was thrilled to find this forum last year.  My layout had languished for several years but with new ideas and encouragement from other forum members  I have a renewed interest.  I have also utilized forum ads for new products.  Members like to be congratulated for their work that is shown here and sometimes the conversation drifts a bit.  That is human nature.  If you make people feel uncomfortable they will just leave.  I have several hobbies and that means several forums.  It is normal for the topics to sway off course a little.  Please leave things as they were.

Thank You,

Fendermain

High Tone Low Volume

As others have said, there is a core group of modelers who frequent this thread, and yes, we do get off topic from time to time. We do try our best to keep it train related as much as possible. Yes we all do a lot on our layouts, but we also have lives and events within our lives are often intertwined with our love of trains. Sometimes we can't work on our layouts for various reasons, but we want to participate here to keep the train juices flowing. I don't think any of us post replies simply to bump the thread to the top. Its absolutely unnecessary given the amount of activity here- 850 pages and counting.

To limit our participation on this thread to strictly layout-related posts is not fair to all who contribute here. To limit our ability to comment on others recent success or failure or anything else they want to share is not fair.

We all do our best to abide by the TOS and understand that there have to be rules. We are but a humble group of guys who like to share our train and non-train events with others.

To Alan and the entire OGR staff, we all have the utmost respect for the work you do and thank you for hosting this forum. We all do our best to support your sponsors and the many LHS's across the country.

Respectfully.......

Three Rails Are Better Than None 

RSJB18 posted:

As others have said, there is a core group of modelers who frequent this thread, and yes, we do get off topic from time to time. We do try our best to keep it train related as much as possible. Yes we all do a lot on our layouts, but we also have lives and events within our lives are often intertwined with our love of trains. Sometimes we can't work on our layouts for various reasons, but we want to participate here to keep the train juices flowing. I don't think any of us post replies simply to bump the thread to the top. Its absolutely unnecessary given the amount of activity here- 850 pages and counting.

To limit our participation on this thread to strictly layout-related posts is not fair to all who contribute here. To limit our ability to comment on others recent success or failure or anything else they want to share is not fair.

We all do our best to abide by the TOS and understand that there have to be rules. We are but a humble group of guys who like to share our train and non-train events with others.

To Alan and the entire OGR staff, we all have the utmost respect for the work you do and thank you for hosting this forum. We all do our best to support your sponsors and the many LHS's across the country.

Respectfully.......

Mike

USMC 5/11 Battalion Oscar Battery 155 Big Guns!

Semper Fi !

Menards addiction Meeting member! /  LCCA# 41824

Bought O scale wooden and cast metal kit M&StL baggage/RPO car from local train show for $2.00 many years ago, wasn’t sure what to do with it on my layout then had an idea, use it as scrap yard office and storage. Removed two rail trucks, couplers and other stuffs from under chassis so it can sit flat on layout, same with old kit C&NW boxcar. Perfect combo.

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mike g. posted:
RSJB18 posted:

As others have said, there is a core group of modelers who frequent this thread, and yes, we do get off topic from time to time. We do try our best to keep it train related as much as possible. Yes we all do a lot on our layouts, but we also have lives and events within our lives are often intertwined with our love of trains. Sometimes we can't work on our layouts for various reasons, but we want to participate here to keep the train juices flowing. I don't think any of us post replies simply to bump the thread to the top. Its absolutely unnecessary given the amount of activity here- 850 pages and counting.

To limit our participation on this thread to strictly layout-related posts is not fair to all who contribute here. To limit our ability to comment on others recent success or failure or anything else they want to share is not fair.

We all do our best to abide by the TOS and understand that there have to be rules. We are but a humble group of guys who like to share our train and non-train events with others.

To Alan and the entire OGR staff, we all have the utmost respect for the work you do and thank you for hosting this forum. We all do our best to support your sponsors and the many LHS's across the country.

Respectfully.......

Agreed, Mike.

570,000 views. A lot of people have a lot of fun with this thread.

Lew

 

Operator of the Plywood Empire Route in the Beautiful Berkshires

Growing old is so much more fun than the only alternative.

It took me 850 pages to join in on this conversation. I read this thread everyday. It's always good stuff and just a bit of soap opera. The people who contribute here are open and honest and helpful and always kind. No one is trying to bump anyone. Are you kidding? Whoever is complaining has got to get a grip. Really!

And to the moderators, a great big Thank you! You have done a great job policing the Forum. Anyone who has ever been to the poorly moderated forums out there can attest to the chaos and bad behavior that makes them unusable for a lot of topics. It's remarkable how well everyone behaves on this forum. Keep it up!

To the regulars that frequent this thread, don't worry. The moderators are just trying to keep the peace. They have to respond to complaints no matter how silly and insignificant they may seem. Carry on and keep us informed of your layout design work. It is outstanding!

  -- Leo

Awhile back I picked up an EP-5 and an EF-4 in New Haven livery and I had some time the last couple days so I figured I should have some catenary on at least one section of track. I found a file on thingyverse for the poles and printed out a bunch and after putting them up I really didn't like the looks so I decided to draw up my own and print them out . I also designed my own wires and printed them out in different lengths. I put those up and liked them. There not proto typical or operational but I don't care they look alright to me and they were easy and cheap.

These are the first set of poles.

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This is my own design

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Some samples of what they look like on the layout

 

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Its not actual working catenary but I was just going for the look. 

There are no atheist in a fox hole

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Vincent Massi posted:

If you wanna post on this forum, you gotta' obey the rules. Even I can understand that!

Disorder_jamison

These rules of which you speak seem to only have surfaced recently. I have been a participant in this GREAT thread for years and have not seen any malicious comments among participants, only friendly, personable interaction.

Randy Harrison,

President of the:

Great Northeastern Railway

The Standard Railroad of the Basement



 

 

Randy Harrison posted:
Vincent Massi posted:

If you wanna post on this forum, you gotta' obey the rules. Even I can understand that!

Disorder_jamison

These rules of which you speak seem to only have surfaced recently. I have been a participant in this GREAT thread for years and have not seen any malicious comments among participants, only friendly, personable interaction.

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Since I wrote the above reply to the discussion of this thread's content, I walked away and thought about things. I came to the conclusion that the recent discourse has been off of the topic of the title of this thread. Valid points have been made on both sides of the discussion and sometimes friends just must agree to disagree. So friends, let get back to "What did you do on your layout today?" After all, We all love this great hobby and we all have railroads to run.

Thank you.

Randy Harrison,

President of the:

Great Northeastern Railway

The Standard Railroad of the Basement



 

 

RSJB18 posted:

As others have said, there is a core group of modelers who frequent this thread, and yes, we do get off topic

We all do our best to abide by the TOS and understand that there have to be rules. We are but a humble group of guys who like to share our train and non-train events with others.

 

Respectfully.......

My impression is that about 75% of the content of this thread in the past six months or so is about "non-train events" or having little to do with working on a layout. This was once one of my favorite threads to read and learn from; however, it has devolved into water cooler chit-chat and a sort of facebook for some OGR members.

Also, why not use the "like" button to show appreciation for what someone did on their lay-out--is it really necessary to post a text expressing the sentiment every single time the opportunity presents itself no matter how meager the content?  

I have posted these comments reluctantly.  My hope was that after Alan said what he said, his words would be taken to heart.  Instead, the opposite happened and it has led to more self-serving justifications for the unrelenting off-topic commentary that has diluted this thread of meaningful content.  

With respect to all.

 

 

Carl

old_toymaker posted:

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Its not actual working catenary but I was just going for the look. 

Great work on the catenary.  3D printing is a good friend.  Maybe one day I'll do a catenary setup for my NJ Transit electrics.

I challenge anyone to find a topic anywhere on this forum with over 20 replies that has not gone off topic to some degree or other. That's just the nature of the game.

This particular thread is much more than just being about what people did on their layouts. It has evolved into the actual life circumstances that surround being a model railroader.

Here we learn about the problems associated with finding the time to devote to the hobby that we love; illness or disability, family obligations, other pressing matters that require attention. It's a look at the things that we all experience while dreaming up projects and trying to achieve some goal. It tells the story, the very long story, of model railroading with all of its ups and downs. For a beginner, this could serve as the template of what it's all about.

This thread is an invaluable asset to the Forum.

Yesterday I organized my train shelves a bit, as I was tired of looking at clutter from cars just sitting on counters.  After that I ran trains from my iPad using DCS Wi-Fi.  Created a lash-up of my MTH green NYC E8's (AA) and really enjoyed watching that pull the Empire State Express cars from MTH.  A few cold beers didn't hurt matters either.

John

Oak, Black Lab, Constant Companion, 12-4-1994 to 12-18-2006 TCA 03-55425
Consolidated Leo posted:

It took me 850 pages to join in on this conversation. I read this thread everyday. It's always good stuff and just a bit of soap opera. The people who contribute here are open and honest and helpful and always kind. No one is trying to bump anyone. Are you kidding? Whoever is complaining has got to get a grip. Really!

And to the moderators, a great big Thank you! You have done a great job policing the Forum. Anyone who has ever been to the poorly moderated forums out there can attest to the chaos and bad behavior that makes them unusable for a lot of topics. It's remarkable how well everyone behaves on this forum. Keep it up!

To the regulars that frequent this thread, don't worry. The moderators are just trying to keep the peace. They have to respond tocomplaints no matter how silly and insignificant they may seem. Carry on and keep us informed of your layout design work. It is outstanding!

  -- Leo

I tend to agree that while the thread drifts sometimes a little too much off topic, the welcoming atmosphere makes it worth it. I do not post much but I feel part of the group when I do. If everyone tries a little to stay on track , I think it is best to let it be. There is way more good than bad here.

Mike

Howard, that is another great looking realistic scene!

John, it is really nice when we have our trains organized in a nice display or on the layout!  I’m glad to hear you have success with the lashup on wifi!

Mitch, That’s a sharp looking train for the holidays!!

It's Sunday, so we went to church.  That's Rev Zac Harmon at the entrance.  He and his wife Kate just got a Chocolate lab, Murphy Brown!

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Matt

 

CEO of the SENHRR - The Live Free or Die RailRoad.

Life is short, play with TRAINS!

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Afternoon guys,

I spent the morning working on my Engine Service area again today. After looking at it I just thought it didn't look right with concrete on the inside and nothing on the outside. So I built some concrete slabs for outside, 2 with stairs and railings. The center one doesn't have anything as no one should b e out there without a train to climb on. Here are a couple photos! Enjoy!IMG_20191201_124432542IMG_20191201_124442851IMG_20191201_124453509

While I was at it I painted the service yard and tank yard with a charcoal  paint before I start putting down my Black Ballast from Forum Sponsor Brennans Moldel Railroading!

But while I am here and nobody has posted for over 2 hours I want to comment on a few things.

CGWFOREVER, Great idea, I have a box car I got from forum member Briansilvermustang. I plan on doing the same thing!

Old Toymaker, WOW Just wonderful!

Howard, great shot of Main St!

Mitch, looks like your in the spirt of the season! I didn't even know Lionel made that!

Matt, I hope while you were at church, you and Rev. Zac prayed for the rest of us here on the forum! Good looking Lab!~

Mike

USMC 5/11 Battalion Oscar Battery 155 Big Guns!

Semper Fi !

Menards addiction Meeting member! /  LCCA# 41824

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Pingman posted:
RSJB18 posted:

As others have said, there is a core group of modelers who frequent this thread, and yes, we do get off topic

We all do our best to abide by the TOS and understand that there have to be rules. We are but a humble group of guys who like to share our train and non-train events with others.

 

Respectfully.......

My impression is that about 75% of the content of this thread in the past six months or so is about "non-train events" or having little to do with working on a layout. This was once one of my favorite threads to read and learn from; however, it has devolved into water cooler chit-chat and a sort of facebook for some OGR members.

Also, why not use the "like" button to show appreciation for what someone did on their lay-out--is it really necessary to post a text expressing the sentiment every single time the opportunity presents itself no matter how meager the content?  

I have posted these comments reluctantly.  My hope was that after Alan said what he said, his words would be taken to heart.  Instead, the opposite happened and it has led to more self-serving justifications for the unrelenting off-topic commentary that has diluted this thread of meaningful content.  

With respect to all.

 

 

Thank you, Pingman; I couldn't have said it better. To show what one has done is great, as is demonstrating a new technique, explaining it with more detail in subsequent posts in response to questions; or perhaps mentioning a new product or a explaining a new use for a common product. But I have to agree with the moderator regarding chit chat.

Also the use of the "like" button is a simple alternative for what amounts to the endless "thanking you for thanking me".

This is not meant to be disrespectful to anyone and their views, but merely represents my sentiments on the matter.

jackson, CEO, Not-So-Great Eastern RR, aka The Never Done Line

          Division of the Southern Adirondack Railway Cartel

 

 

Mike g, your engine serving area is coming out great. 

Gandydancer, nice pic. Great perspective.

Johan, interesting pics from you. 

Not going to get to the layout till tomorrow. I'll be redoing the last building flats I put up. The more I looked at them the more I was not happy with the placement of them. This afternoon I worked on the scenic part of the module. I added some ground dirt and green turf. Also put another coat of black wash on the rocks. Was going to paint the river bottom but decided to get some spackling and seal it with that instead. Wasn't sure if paint would totally cover the plaster wrap. Also peeled the caulk off the waxpaper for the waterfall. Pics...........Paul 2

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mike g. posted:

Afternoon guys,

I spent the morning working on my Engine Service area again today. After looking at it I just thought it didn't look right with concrete on the inside and nothing on the outside. So I built some concrete slabs for outside, 2 with stairs and railings. The center one doesn't have anything as no one should b e out there without a train to climb on. Here are a couple photos! Enjoy!

Noice!   

Mitch, looks like your in the spirt of the season! I didn't even know Lionel made that!

The train is entirely home-rolled (except the loco, which is stock but has a nice holiday stripe on it).    

Lionel makes lovely trains,  but I don't have $800 to spare to buy specialty holiday cars...  All those were about $5 a pop train show specials, decorated for another couple bucks apiece with stickers and decorations from Hobby Lobby.    

Mitch 

It's crackers to give a rozzer the dropsy in snide!

 

Remember, SCROUNGE!

It's been a couple of weeks but I finally got some work done on the engine house. Glued balsa to the exterior so it looks like a poured concrete structure. Once it dries I've got to fill and sand all the seams. Still a long way to go but I'm hoping to have it done around the 1st of the year.

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Santa Fe, All the Way

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A friend brought his three-year-old son over to see my Christmas train layout, and things went very well. Until I was running two dead rail trains on the same track and got the controls mixed up.

The three-year-old thought it was fantastic. My wife says that Gomez Adams (who made the spectacular model train wrecks on the old Adams Family TV show) would have been proud.

Paul, That looks like plenty of waterfalls material.  The coloring on the ground surface looks good, and those will be some terrific boulders when in place.   I agree the spackling may be good to seal it further.

Lou, The engine house looks good.  Yes that will take some filling and sanding to make it look like concrete when painted.  Did you work from any specific plans or photographs?

Well Guys, I was able to get back out to the train room after a little lunch and 15 min, nap! LOL I was able to get the inside of the engine house and the tracks coming out of it ballasted. Wet water, some 50/50 glue and its done. Here are a couple photos!IMG_20191201_160615605IMG_20191201_160608838

Mark, I wasn't planning on it as I was going to take the easy way out. But you are correct it would look much better with concrete between the rails. Guess that will give me something to do tomorrow! LOL

Paul, the river scene is looking wonderful. With the spackle are you still going to paint the bottom for some color? Your ground cover really turned out nice! 

Lou, its coming along nicely! What did you use to clue it together? Just White glue or did you use some sort of wood glue? Also with balsa wood being so soft what to you fill the gaps with so you don't have to same a lot?

Mike

USMC 5/11 Battalion Oscar Battery 155 Big Guns!

Semper Fi !

Menards addiction Meeting member! /  LCCA# 41824

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Mike, It probably would look better, but it depends on if you think it is worth the effort.  With 3-rail you have to leave a pretty wide gap for wheel flanges as opposed to higher tolerance 2 rail scale.  I would guess after a couple inches inside, you won’t notice the difference.  Myles ‘Trainman2001’ put a lot of effort into it on his engine house.  Also in that case, he had to make sure the floor was below the level of the rails to run engines inside.  I don’t know if you plan to do that or just push cars in.  

Mark Boyce posted:

 

Lou, The engine house looks good.  Yes that will take some filling and sanding to make it look like concrete when painted.  Did you work from any specific plans or photographs?

I Googled "concrete engine house" and just built it based on images I found. I had an area it would fit so I just took measurements and cut stuff to fit. It has no specific prototype but it's just supposed to look like something that could have existed. 

I did the same thing with the turntable I built. I found out Santa Fe used shallow pit, girder bridge, turntables. I needed a 30" turntable so I just made one that looked similar to the prototype. 

I usually just figure out what I want the finished product to look like in my head then just start building till I get what I envisioned. 

Santa Fe, All the Way

mike g. posted:

 

Lou, its coming along nicely! What did you use to clue it together? Just White glue or did you use some sort of wood glue? Also with balsa wood being so soft what to you fill the gaps with so you don't have to same a lot?

I used non foaming Gorilla Glue to attach the balsa to the base structure. The base structure is composed of 1/4" plywood and 1/2" square poplar dowels, screwed together. For filling seams I'll be using wood putty. After it dries I'll sand everything smooth with some 300 grit sandpaper. 

Santa Fe, All the Way

Pretty exciting weekend on our layout...finally got the MTH Realtrax track working fairly smoothly...but just as important got the l20191201_20213920191201_202019ayout in the Christmas spirit...trees are a bit out of scale (about 50' tall) but we're thrilled nevertheless!

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Canes RR posted:

Pretty exciting weekend on our layout...finally got the MTH Realtrax track working fairly smoothly...but just as important got the l20191201_20213920191201_202019ayout in the Christmas spirit...trees are a bit out of scale (about 50' tall) but we're thrilled nevertheless!

Love the simple, uncluttered and very clean look of your RR. The night scene is awesome, and definitely in the Christmas spirit. I am just going to assume that the view out your "window" is not really the view out your "window?"

 

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

Updated my $2.99 thrift store Xmas tree with some Hallmark Lionel ornaments... 

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Mitch

Great use of those Hallmark train ornaments. I have all of them (including the limited editions) and never put them on the tree - most are just too heavy (unless you still have one of those 1970’s era artificial trees with heavy wire branches). I usually line them all up on the cabinet holding the TV.

 

Paul

Techno-Peasant of the First Order

Provisionary Member - Brotherhood of the Crappy Basement Layout

 TCA 15-70689

LCCA RM-39621

LOTS RM-9326

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