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Looking good Bob. How often have you been cleaning your track?

I had not done it in a while Jay. With all the projects going on it was not worth the time to clean the track when I wasn't running  anyway. Prior to that I used to clean it regularly with 90% IPA. As previously stated, I grabbed the wrong bottle (70%) and it left a rusty film on the rails. You can see the brown residue on the wheels of the cleaning car. I also realized that I didn't run the trains after cleaning (got a different assignment from the CEO), and didn't get to dry the rails.

I also picked up some purple scotchbrite pads, as recommended by GunrunnerJohn, which I will use on the next pass.

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Bob, that is a nice run the Menards F3 made on your layout!

Mikey, the military scene looks great!

Randy, that's great you got help on Saturday!

I lowered my lift up bridges the other evening for the first time in a while. I built for a slightly too tight fit. The wood swelled just enough that the lower bridge wood support just hit the table top and the motor kept going without the bridge hitting the limit switch until I threw the switch. I'll have to shave some off and recheck alignment. That evening, I just raised the bridges, turned on power to my Ceiling Central RR in the adjacent room, and ran a mixed freight flawlessly for a while. I have finally hit the sweet spot where if something doesn't work, and I don't feel like doing something with it right then, I can run another train. Yay!!

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@Mark Boyce, may I suggest that you consider a moderately priced dehumidifier for your train area.
They certainly are not an economical mechanism but I’ve found they are necessary sometimes.
And this time one may have saved an expansion issue in your case …

take care!

Seth, You are right on the dehumidifier.  We have one in the finished section of the small basement.  I thought it was enough, but this is the first that I have had the layout to a point where humidity would be a factor.  Our older daughter never complained when the train room was her art studio, but we have had a lot of rain this summer.  I am thinking a second one is in order.

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Well Mark you are way ahead of me.

I just dislike taking things apart which once worked well. Are there not two bridges?

And we’re also experiencing lots of extra rain this year.  2021 is our year of extremes thus far.

Yes there are two.  I built the wooden frame underneath the lower bridge to attach the linear actuator to and support the stress.  The upper bridge doesn’t have any wooden support since an arm from underneath the lower bridge catches the upper bridge to lift it.  

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Great engineering Mark.  

I followed you and Mike last winter during the construction  but here in July I wasn’t certain if both had wood in their design.

I hope the correction on the length doesn’t cause you any major issues with the three rails.

Mike built two.  On one he used thick plexiglass he had on hand.  That would be the ticket.  The other he used premium plywood.  I only had access to 7-ply poplar, and 1x2 poplar.

Im not sure about the rails.  As soon as I saw what was happening, I stopped the bridges and reversed them to the up position.  It was about 2am, and I couldn’t sleep because of my sciatic nerve hurting too much.  I didn’t feel like fooling with it then, nor today.  I was really dragging.  😄

Mark your area of the state has had more than its share of moisture. Not knowing how your train room is heated and air conditioned, you might consider a mini-split for the area. One unit would provide heat and ac. When you put the unit on dry it eliminates the humidity.

Jay, you hit the nail on the head!!  The 11x11 train room is an addition on the rear of the house my in-laws had built mainly to support the sunroom above.  It had baseboard heat I disconnected and no air conditioning.  I took the window out between that room and the laundry and there is a door also.  The temperature feels okay, but it must be too damp.  Those mini-split units are nice, but I never priced them.  I don’t know if I will be able to justify it, since we don’t plan to live here too many more years.

I'm certainly sorry about your continuing pain Mark. I was wondering how the physical therapy has been going for you.

If there’s so much pain hopefully your dr. Supplies some relief.
I use the home remedy of a pillow between my legs.

And I agree about a media for your bridge which doesn’t expand nor contracts. Plexiglass could be your answer which means re engineering.

and I’m not joking about this, over the years I’ve found many times what supplies I needed in local dumpsters.  I have salvaged signage from stores doing promotions which was made from thick plastic or plexiglass

Take care, hopefully the pain isn’t as bad this night.

Mark hope you recover quickly from your current pain. It is awful when our physical conditions interfere with our hobbies. 

Just spent a small fortune replacing a water heater and two furnaces and remodeling the master bath - all for the next owners - whenever that may be. Probably another year out -  so we may get to enjoy the new stuff for a little while. So I understand your dilemma regarding the train space. Sounds to me you will have to do something for the sale, might as well do it now so you can at least enjoy your layout in comfort.  Best ...

Thank you, Seth and Jeff!  Yes the pillow is a must.  Our older daughter could have minored in 'dumpster diving' when she was in college.  It would be a fairly simple job to substitute something like plexiglass under the bridge.  I saw someone else made a similar installation with linear actuators on parallel bridges at different levels.  He did a great job using separate linear actuators for each bridge instead of using Mike's idea of only using one,

Jeff, you do have a great thought about making improvements now and enjoy them now instead off adding it right before selling,  I just paid off the furnace and air conditioner we had installed in April a year ago.  Maybe an improvement instead of just maintenance is in order. 

Mark, get a free estimate for the mini-split; especially since you don’t have a precise time line for moving. The cost outlay could be recouped in the sale of the house. Plus, you’ll want something warm for your bones when you’re enjoying an operating session during the western PA winters.

👍🏻 One other thing about that addition, it has three exterior walls with a sliding glass door on the east side of the train room.  I wouldn’t have put it in, but my in-laws wanted to reuse it from the original 1960s house when heating and cooling was inexpensive.

Started noodling around with the load for my track cleaning car. I purchased some woodside boxcar material from Evergreen for the deck. I want to make the load removable so I can change the pads easily. Now that the basic concept is in my head I can order some additional shapes and details. The juices are flowing.

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Well, things may have slowed down a bit, my situation is honey do projects, the yard, and other must do’s this time of year activities… however next week I get to visit a new friends layout, in Nashville. RSJB18, Bob, that a very interesting project you’ve taken on, the Long Island flat car is neat, this would make a great track cleaning car, cool idea.,  Happy Railroading Everyone 6A5475D5-4497-48D7-9018-71ACDFB00DC6C2E5415F-4965-44DF-B46A-8E9ADBC3180E28EAB1B8-8A3C-435A-9484-1C40050DFFE3

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Morning everyone, just got back from our trip and have only had time to get into the train room long enough to drop off my hail from Menards. After seeing what I left I know I need to get in there and clean it before I move forward! LOL.

I hope you all have a great week and find time to have fun with your layout and trains!

While recovering from some fairly major abdominal surgery, I received my latest order from Ross Custom Switches, and am now laying my second, inner loop. There are 6 power drops, and 8 switches involved, all with non-derailing being installed, so a lot of wiring and extensions to be made and placed. There is also and a lot of Ross Bed to be addressed for fit up, and stone painting.

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RWL, I am glad you have recovered enough from your abdominal surgery to get back to the layout.  That is very neat looking wiring on the switches and a switch control panel in progress.  I'm recovering from lumbar fusion surgery and was away from the layout a couple months myself. 

Dad's Train Room, those paper facades look great as does your lighting!  That will certainly be an eye catcher for Halloween!

As mentioned I just got back to the layout a week or so ago.  I had noticed some expansion on the lower of my two lift up bridges.  I shaved just a smidgeon of wood off the bridge.  The rails already extended past the wood, so now everything seats well again.  I did take the advice to get a second dehumidifier for the basement yesterday.  I need to get it out of the box and set it up.  It was an easy sell for my wife as she didn't want any of my engines to oxidize.  Though I didn't meet her until I was 27, I have been very blessed for 37 years married to her!!

As RWL received his switches while recovering from surgery, I just received 2 AIUs for my switches, uncouplers, and whatever in the future.  All I have done so far is daisy chain them to the TIU and see that the TIU recognizes them via the remote.  I still need to pull some wire before I hook any up, so I have some incentive to do my exercises and get my back and hamstring muscles stronger to handle leaning under the layout.  I'm so glad I made the layout high enough and the wiring close to the edge so that I can sit on a stool and lean under instead of other more painful alternatives. 

Been running my Menards F7. Switching out the other power and rolling stock to ATSF theme for a while.

I sprayed the shiny trucks with Rustoleum Matte. They look much better now. The side frames are screwed to the trucks and are actually rather heavy, comparable to Lionel or MTH frames. They even used lock-tite on the screws for some reason.

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@RSJB18 posted:

Been running my Menards F7.

I sprayed the shiny trucks with Rustoleum Matte. They look much better now. The side frames are screwed to the trucks and are actually rather heavy, comparable to Lionel or MTH frames. They even used lock-tite on the screws for some reason.

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Bob these look much better. I hadn’t noticed until now how detailed the trucks actually are on some of the unboxing and review videos.

Mitch sure has smooth running trains!

I have spent the last couple of weeks doing wiring. There are three main power feeds for: track, switches, and  signals/lighting and uncoupling/unloading (UCS) tracks. A fourth main wire serves as a ground. The track is fed about every three feet or so and each siding has its own power supply. The 15 switches use the independent voltage plug to supply a constant voltage. The 6 semaphores use insulated track sections to indicate occupied tracks and the block signals are connected to the switches to show turnout position. Separate power is used for the operating barrel loader, coal loader and log loader. There will be two ZW transformers.

I have five insulated rail sections for operation of the road crossing devices like flashing cross bucks, crossing gates. banjo signal, and gateman house.

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Thanks, Romillet49...l previously mentioned in a post it was for #90, if ever produced, and #90, decapod on the Strasburg,  IS going to be produced, in current and original roadname. As for the Menard's bash, the addition was a thin plastic kit  made in Denmark, and l think the Menard's deserves an extension from a better matched and maybe stronger single stall kit.  Weaver made one..still mulling that over. 

Finished decaling 4 LIONEL 15" aluminum offset vista dome cars.  (These are prototypically numbered and shown as being owned by CB&Q and SP&S Ry. who provided their cars for use on the NP North Coast Limited.)  Next step is to reassemble the cars with their ends, then apply clear coat finish, probably tomorrow.

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P51 - I got excess glue on the windows, so mine are no where near as nice as yours.  Mine is dark blue - I have not added the decals as yet nor the top light. I am toying with the idea of getting a flashing LED from Evans for the top lamp and inside as well. Now its finding a Tom Baker Dr. Who for the outside. You know he travels in time so he can show up any place and time. Who knows maybe your outpost is being readied for an invasion by the Daleks or the Master?

FIRST TIMER -- Replaced the knuckle/hand on a LIONEL passenger truck with the benefit of this trembling hands demonstration video from YouTube.  Seriously, I'm 73 and I experience my right, dominant hand trembles sometimes and it's completely unpredictable.  Well, the fella doing the video has trembling hands and was able to show how to replace a spring/knuckle on a LIONEL postwar coupler.  (My hands were steady for this job, thankfully.)

KEY TIP/TRICK--TH applied a small amount of a gel lubricant to the spring and pin to hold them while inserting the knuckle/hand.  I used Red n Tacky.  Hardest part of the job was removing the pin.

Also, I was glad I had my Greenberg's Repair Manual and a portable vise for this job.   It was important for me to orient my coupler as TH did during his video; and, I had a couple of screenshots of the video on my smart phone for reference shown below:

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Hi guys sorry I haven't been on for awhile, I hope to change that buts really all up to the CEO! I did get out to the train room for a little while today. Did some cleaning and got one lower loop wood cut and road bed down.

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@ScoutingDad posted:

P51 - I got excess glue on the windows, so mine are no where near as nice as yours.  Mine is dark blue - I have not added the decals as yet nor the top light. I am toying with the idea of getting a flashing LED from Evans for the top lamp and inside as well.

I have a Woodland Scenics plug and play flashing light that I plan on running right up to the base of the light.  As for the windows, I placed the walls face down and used liquid glue from the inside and let capillary action do the rest. I used the molded color as it was very close to real British Police Boxes, just used dull coat both inside and out to make the windows translucent. As in the Tom Baker era, you couldn't see in the windows anyway, I'll probably paint the insides of the windows anyway.

The phone door markings are accurate for the modern series, not the one from the 70s and 80s, but I went with it anyway. Maybe someday I'll make me own more accurate markings.

As for details, I highlighted with testors silver, but the matching blue paint I had wasn't thick enough to complete the reinforcements for the windows and the top light supports.

I'm a Tom Baker fan (though I did get to meet Peter Davidson once in the 80s), and would LOVE to find a 1/43 or scale figure of him and/or K9. I've seen figures on eBay that might be good for O scale, but none of the listings are specific on the scale.

Lot's of nice projects gents.
@Pingman- the NP cars look great. Been following your ups and downs as you worked on them. Neat tips for replacing springs too.
@p51- Nice model Lee. Not a big fan of the shows but well done.
@mike g.- looks like another lift bridge is in order....... Have you considered even a simple lift out section?  Nice fishing hole too
@jrstengel- nice work. Nice train room too.
@Victor Bertolina- been following your progress. Very neat and clean work.

I found and fixed a problem with one of my BEEPS. It was stalling over my switches, always at the rear pickup. I found this when I opened it up. Simple fix and we are back in business. I'm going to attempt my first ERR upgrade on one of these soon. Now that I have a Cab-1L, I want to start converting several of my conventional locos to command.

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Hi guys, I know I have been a little slow lately staying up to speed and I am sorry about that!

Joe, that's a great idea!

Bob, I sure am glad it was an easy fix! Things sure are looking good on your layout!

Jesse, great looking switching layout! I love all the detail!

Patrick, I cant wait to see your newly painted supply for your layout! I bet the guys will be happy to be getting new engines and so forth!

Well as for me I was able to work a little on the other end of the layout for my lower loop. I had to change somethings up as I don't have enough 072 for the lower track and top track sections. So I made the lower loop 080 so it wouldn't be hidden under the upper section all the time. I am still working on using up my old plywood scraps before I cut into my $54 sheet of 1/2" plywood! Here is where I am as of today.

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Mike:  Remember - Fishing is always great!   Catching on the other hand, is incidental and does not always correlate or define a great day of fishing!   I have never had a bad day fishing but, I have had several bad days catching.     Wonderful picture and I am sure it was a great outing on the water!

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Good Evening Everyone,

I have been doing several things on the layout over the last few months and I have described them on my latest layout progress page. Just click on the layout progress link below. Additionally, all projects will be documented on my YouTube page.

Today I continued work on 3 dsl shops row house fronts that I am kit-bashing into a full structure. The photos show the fronts attached to one another, the bracing between the back and right sides, and me test fitting the building. I still need to install interior and exterior details and lighting then I can put the building completely together.

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An easy fix ...

When my two great-grandsons visit my home layout, their SOP is to walk around my L-shaped layout and push every control  button on the fascia boards to trigger each accessory.  It's fun for them, and it's an "operational test" of the action accessories for me.

One of the accessories (the Lionel REFRESHMENT STAND) was sluggish in operation, so I removed it from the layout and opened it up at my workbench today. Years ago, I lubed that accessories with White Lithium Grease. At the time, I thought that was a good idea; but with time, the grease dried to a sludge and gummed-up the gears.  I used 91% Isopropyl Alcohol to clean the gears (especially in the teeth of the gears) and wipe its drive belt. After cleaning the accessory, it now works like it should; the characters move and the ice cream cone twirls.

Not rocket science, but a tip to remember ...

Mike Mottler   LCCA 12394

@Pingman posted:

FIRST TIMER -- Replaced the knuckle/hand on a LIONEL passenger truck with the benefit of this trembling hands demonstration video from YouTube.  Seriously, I'm 73 and I experience my right, dominant hand trembles sometimes and it's completely unpredictable.  Well, the fella doing the video has trembling hands and was able to show how to replace a spring/knuckle on a LIONEL postwar coupler.  (My hands were steady for this job, thankfully.)

KEY TIP/TRICK--TH applied a small amount of a gel lubricant to the spring and pin to hold them while inserting the knuckle/hand.  I used Red n Tacky.  Hardest part of the job was removing the pin.

Also, I was glad I had my Greenberg's Repair Manual and a portable vise for this job.   It was important for me to orient my coupler as TH did during his video; and, I had a couple of screenshots of the video on my smart phone for reference shown below:

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Congrats! Replacing knuckles and coupler springs is one of the hardest repair jobs the first time you do it. My dad does it several times a week so he's got it under his belt but I still take about 5-10 minutes and use a couple of rivets lol

Morning guys, looks like there has been some nice projects getting done!

Mark, the wife told me to measure 4 time before cutting, thats why its still a whole sheet! LOL

Dave, you are so right, never a bad day fishing! We just take out our 12' Aluminum with a electric trolling motor and everything stays nice and quite!

Dave @luvindemtrains your kit bashing is looking great! I hope you post more photos as you go along.

Lee, the police box with the flashing light is outstanding! Sorry I had to look it up as I had never heard of one before! Then again we never really lived in the city.

Well Monday the wife let me work in the train room and I was able to get all the road bed and track laid for my lower level. Now I have to wire and fix all the isolation cuts I made in the tracks! LOL Which means I have to move everything either from one end them back or just mover everything out from under the layout into the garage to a couple days or maybe weeks depending on the CEO! LOLIMG_20210802_172346IMG_20210802_172358

While I was working on that, a good friend I have had some of his friends moving and brought over a train that they were going to get rid of for me to have! Enjoy!

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Today I installed a 50's Lionel 362 Barrel Loader.  I've owned it for two years and never took it out of it's box.  I power it with a Lionel VW transformer.  The operation is smooth and a little noisy.  Now I need a 3562 barrel unloading car and more barrels too.  I've already unloaded my six barrels about 20 times just for fun.20210728_140751

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Mike, the turnback loops on the lower level look great, as does the little wooden train!  Measure 4 times before cutting sounds good to me; on second thought maybe you should sleep on it after measuring, then measure all over again!    I only know what a Tardis is because that is what Dr. Who uses to travel through time.  I never heard of it until our older daughter and son-in-law started watching it when they were in college or maybe even high school.  Then I found out recently that Dr. Who has been around since 1963!  Who knew!!!

Very nice job on yours, Lee!!!

Bill, nice barrel loader.  I had HO trains growing up, so I was unfamiliar with Lionel operating accessories.  I have bought a few since moving to O gauge about 10 years ago.

Jeff, I agree the accessories do remind me of the electric football game.  My aunt and uncle bought one for my brother and me for Christmas one year.  We got frustrated that you had to line up all the players with the little plastic tabs just right underneath for them to go where you wanted them to.  We reverted to the table hockey game with the long metal rods you moved to control each player.  We literally wore that thing out over the years.

Here is a photograph of my Atlas switch tower I built recently while recovering from back surgery.  I may place it elsewhere on the layout, but off hand it seems at the entrance to the little yard is the place.  That's about all I have accomplished on the layout since May 24th, surgery day.

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I finished working on another steel mill building.  This one will be a slab mill. My ingot buggies will come in and slabs of steel will exit . I painted it a dark shade of gray instead of black,  to make it look like it is further away from the others. Weathered with rust colored powder.  If you notice the corrugated material doesn't go all the way to the end of the building.  That's because another building will be in front,  a hot rolling mill, next on the workbench.

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Also did some painting of a lionel shed and switch tower. I didn't like the stock colors so I brought out the acrylics and went to work. Added windows and floors to it in hope that some day I will put an interior with a desk and pot belly stove. Also a tool rack in the lower floor.

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I wired the tower for lights, using yellow bulbs instead of white for a more subtle look.

Then I spent an afternoon making a power supply distribution for the lighting on my layout.  I took 3 buck converters and added terminal strips. Each unit is set to a different voltage, 3v,4.5v, for LEDS and 9v for bulbs.

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Bill T., The slab mill looks great!  Just like mill buildings in Western Pennsylvania in the heyday.  I have one of those little Lionel sheds that is in need of a paint job, nice work.  To top it off, I like your power supply distribution for the lighting on your layout.  Looks like a very neat job in the works!

Thank you Mark,  I  first started with a homemade terminal strip for 12 volts then added terminals for 3, 4.5 ,and 9 volts.  I use 3 and 4.5 volt for the LEDS  in the mill buildings,  9 volts for bulbs in the switch tower and 12 volts for the Seuthe smoke generator in the ore boat. I can run 19 different accessories from each terminal strip.

Hi guys, wonderful work!

Bill, the barrel loader is going to be a hit on your layout!

Jeff, I like the little wooded train also, but its ment to be a pot holder for plants! LOL at the rate the wife is going I can see down the road I am going to have to figure out how to build some more! LOL

Mark, the tower is great looking! I can see it found its proper home!

Bill T, The Steel Mill building looks outstanding! I really like how you put all your buck convertors together in the same area. Mine are all over the layout and now I am going to have to change that! LOL

Well today I got out and did a little wiring and will do a little tomorrow. But man there are a lot of gaps to fill from my previous track plan and isolation gaps! LOL Guess I have just have to bite the bullet and make it happen!

I hope everyone had a great day and fun with there layout and trains!

I cleaned up and lubricated some railcars from an Ebay purchase. These have the usual issues like loose wires, dirty wheels and a surprise, two coupler shanks that were detached from the base plate. These are the cast metal type shanks with the integral rivet (480-31)  and access to placing a substitute rivet requires removing the armature rivet (480-19) and spring (480-38). Rather than do that, I decided to try using Gorilla glue. After a thorough cleaning, I applied the glue and clamped the coupler in the vise overnight. This morning the coupler appears to be very firmly attached to the frame! I put in a new coupler spring and reinstalled the truck. Seems to be a good solution.6464 Boxcar

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Hi guys, wonderful work!

Bill T, The Steel Mill building looks outstanding! I really like how you put all your buck convertors together in the same area. Mine are all over the layout and now I am going to have to change that! LOL

I hope everyone had a great day and fun with there layout and trains!

Thanks for the compliment Mike.  Here's a frontal view of the mill building. To the left is the electric arc furnace building and annex.

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I spent a day stringing fishing line through little holes I drilled  in each insulator on the telephone poles. 12 poles times 10 insulators each.  Either 5 or 10 pound test monofilament that was 20+ years old.  Wish I had some of my old spiderwire. Gave up fishing long time ago back in the 90's since I never caught anything.

Power goes from my terminals to a rocker switch at the facia then back to the building lights.  I try to get things organized,  but it's starting to look like a rat's nest under the layout.

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Good evening everyone! I recently got back from a trip to Dallas and work has once again continued on the layout. Thankfully, my health has made turn for the better and seems to be under control once again. Back to the layout, work has turned away from the mountain for a bit. Currently, I finally decided to paint my unpainted Lionel Rico Station in red, white, and black. Below are some photos of the progress so far. Thanks for reading, and happy railroading!

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Bill, Great looking mill building! Man that sure is alot of holes to drill and very small. If I want something like that I might have to sub it out! LOL

TrainMaster, The new paint job is just wonderful! Really makes a statement!

John, That is going to be one amazing river!

Dave, the fire escape looks good. I sure hope you will post more photos when you have it mounted!

Well guys, no photos from me today, but I did get all the track laid for the lower level and got 99% wired yesterday and today. I still have to work on the wiring for the drop down section. I hope to have that figured out tomorrow, then I can move onto wiring the switch motors!

I hope you all have a great week and find time for fun with your layouts and trains!

Good evening everyone! Well, progress continued on the station for the past two days and I am happy to say I was able to finish it this evening. I may add a few thing here and their to it, but it first real transformation has been completed. Thanks for reading and happy railroading!

P.S. I am sorry for two of the photos being side ways. I think my phone decided to take a siesta and didn’t turn them around.

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001002I blew the dust off the track and bridges on my outdoor covered shelf layout. This takes a considerable amount of time! I also cleaned the track, and ran some trains for our 2 yr. old grand daughter.

I put a duplex receptacle in the wall where the transformer goes for track power, and used two pieces of old cord with plug ends on one side, and stripped ends on the transformer side. I keep them attached to the transformer, so all I have to do is plug the other ends into the outlet supplying track power. I plan to attach a shelf that folds down when not in use for the transformer.

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