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chris a posted:

Mike,  Really great to see the train room addition is moving along.   Looks great, and seems like your getting to the home stretch.   

Thanks Chris! Things will be a little slow for a little bit. The siding is $35 per sheet, so I will only be able to get half of them one payday and the rest of them the next payday! But that's how life is right now, and I am ok with it as long as I keep moving forward! I hope to have the outside and inside done before end of summer with a little bench work already up. We will see how that goes!

Apples55 posted:
M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

I did a bit of home improvement myself!  My front doorbell button was deteriorated to the point where a gust of wind would ring the bell.  

So, until I can get to Lowes for a replacement... 

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Mitch 

Why do I get the feeling that you will never make it to Lowes??? 

Happy Easter Mitch 🐣🐇🐣🐇

That's really cool Mitch. Now you need to hook that up to a old air-whistle tender......

Gotta figure out how to get the CEO to let me do the same........

Bob

mike g. posted:

Hi everyone, So today its raining, so what do you do when its raining? You go outside and put gutters up! Well atleast that's what I did for Easter! Now I have 90% of the roof done, the gutters up, all that's left is to side it and it will be ready for final inspection! A couple pictures for who wants to see.20180401_11464120180329_113439An of course the inspector had to check things out, He doesn't look to happy but lucky for he he is an easy bribe! LOL

The train room is looking good Mike. I hope Tank does more than sit around and watch you work. Gotta train him to bring you a Coors Light once and a while.

Bob

OK So I hope this is a REALLY BAD APRIL FOOLS JOKE

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The scene out my living room window this morning. 2"-4" expected. Where the H..l is Spring!

Wired up my first dwarf signal yesterday while dinner was in the oven. This is just the test unit but I think I've got it with a little fine tuning. Gotta trim the board down to size and figure out how to cover up the back. I think I'm going to make a small base for them to sit on too.

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RSJB18 posted:
Apples55 posted:

Why do I get the feeling that you will never make it to Lowes??? 

Hee! 

That's really cool Mitch. Now you need to hook that up to a old air-whistle tender......

Could be doable.  IIRC, these things run on about 12VAC, so...

jim pastorius posted:

Mitch -- cool door bell button !!  Next time use a ZW.

LMAO! 

Mitch

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RSJB18 posted:

OK So I hope this is a REALLY BAD APRIL FOOLS JOKE

2018-04-02 07.13.35

The scene out my living room window this morning. 2"-4" expected. Where the H..l is Spring!

Wired up my first dwarf signal yesterday while dinner was in the oven. This is just the test unit but I think I've got it with a little fine tuning. Gotta trim the board down to size and figure out how to cover up the back. I think I'm going to make a small base for them to sit on too.

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Bob, thanks for the kind words on the train room! If its ok I want to shoot you an e-mail as I have a few off forum questions to ask you. For the Coors, last time I let him get a hold of a Coors can, bang 4 holes and beer flowing everywhere! LOL

As far as Snow! Sorry buddy, but better you then me! LOL The signal light looks great, what are you going to be using to trip the lights?

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mike g. posted:

Hi everyone, So today its raining, so what do you do when its raining? You go outside and put gutters up! Well atleast that's what I did for Easter! Now I have 90% of the roof done, the gutters up, all that's left is to side it and it will be ready for final inspection! A couple pictures for who wants to see.20180401_114641

          looking GREAT Mike, getting CLOSER

mike g. posted:
RSJB18 posted:

OK So I hope this is a REALLY BAD APRIL FOOLS JOKE

2018-04-02 07.13.35

The scene out my living room window this morning. 2"-4" expected. Where the H..l is Spring!

Wired up my first dwarf signal yesterday while dinner was in the oven. This is just the test unit but I think I've got it with a little fine tuning. Gotta trim the board down to size and figure out how to cover up the back. I think I'm going to make a small base for them to sit on too.

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Bob, thanks for the kind words on the train room! If its ok I want to shoot you an e-mail as I have a few off forum questions to ask you. For the Coors, last time I let him get a hold of a Coors can, bang 4 holes and beer flowing everywhere! LOL

As far as Snow! Sorry buddy, but better you then me! LOL The signal light looks great, what are you going to be using to trip the lights?

Mike- on the lower section they will be controlled by a toggle switch corresponding to which side of my KW is powering the track. I am considering block relays for the high line. I have a Lionel 153-IR relay box that I may try too. Saw your email- reply sent.

Bob

I had to catch up on a few days so some of this is a little delayed.

Bryan I like the structure in the corner next to the Menards building under construction.  Is it an apartment building?  it sure looks like one.  Scratch build?

Chris A nice work on the shallow relief backdrop building.

Mike you're doing a great job on the train room.

Mitch, why do I get the feeling there was nothing wrong with your old door bell?  You just got bored because Fortesque was playing with the Easter Bunny.

Chief Bob, looks good, its the nice little details that make a big difference!

Jim, sounds like you have a good start! Don't forget pictures along the way so the rest can drool! 

Bob, thanks for the update on the information on the signal lights!

Larry, spending many hours to finish a layout? Looks like you have a great layout as is!

Thanks for the kind work Coach Joe!

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Bryan I like the structure in the corner next to the Menards building under construction.  Is it an apartment building?  it sure looks like one.  Scratch build?

 

Funny story about that building is that is was originally designed to be a hotel is s scale.  I first saw this from a vendor (David Blum, American Flyer Trains) in the orange hall at york.  He sets up near Sidetrack Hobbies.  When I first saw it I said it looks like a prison (which is what I had been looking for)  The vendor said No, its a hotel and I wasn't trying to be rude because I just thought I could convert it to a prison.  I asked if they could upsize the kit for O scale and he said he would see what they could do.  I paid for one and he said if they couldn't do it he would refund my money. About 3 months later I get a package in the mail and sure enough it was that building in O scale.  The key was spray painting it with a texture/flack paint that looks like prison gray.  I liked the look so much that I ordered 2 more stories to give me a total of 4.  I have seen him at a few other shows and he mentioned to me that others have also remarked that it looks like a prison so he can market it both ways and asked if I could send him some pictures of my completed project.  

As for that area I still need to add the fence and barb wire around the entire structure as well as many more prisoners.  

Here are 2 close up pictures before I added on the 2 additional stories.

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mike g. posted:

Hi everyone, So today its raining, so what do you do when its raining? You go outside and put gutters up! Well atleast that's what I did for Easter! Now I have 90% of the roof done, the gutters up, all that's left is to side it and it will be ready for final inspection! A couple pictures for who wants to see.20180401_11464120180401_11465220180401_11485120180401_11490720180329_113439An of course the inspector had to check things out, He doesn't look to happy but lucky for he he is an easy bribe! LOL

WOW Mike !! Your train room is looking great !  Your going to have a big area for a big layout.. keep up the great work.

mike g. posted:

Hi everyone, So today its raining, so what do you do when its raining? You go outside and put gutters up! Well atleast that's what I did for Easter! Now I have 90% of the roof done, the gutters up, all that's left is to side it and it will be ready for final inspection! A couple pictures for who wants to see.20180401_11464120180401_11465220180401_11485120180401_11490720180329_113439An of course the inspector had to check things out, He doesn't look to happy but lucky for he he is an easy bribe! LOL

Fantastic work Mike. Looks like a new Menards structure, Mike’s Train House

JD2035RR posted:
mike g. posted:

Hi everyone, So today its raining, so what do you do when its raining? You go outside and put gutters up! Well atleast that's what I did for Easter! Now I have 90% of the roof done, the gutters up, all that's left is to side it and it will be ready for final inspection! A couple pictures for who wants to see.20180401_11464120180401_11465220180401_11485120180401_11490720180329_113439An of course the inspector had to check things out, He doesn't look to happy but lucky for he he is an easy bribe! LOL

Fantastic work Mike. Looks like a new Menards structure, Mike’s Train House

Thanks JD, I thought about that name, But some company already took it! I think they make trains! LOL

been super busy at work re arranging the shop for a new machine center, long days...

   before, shop a mess, stuff everywhere...

  

  after, getting this part of the shop re arranged...

   

         the new CNC machine...  will start setting it up today...

  the shop some what back together yesterday...  I'm tired...

              now hopefully to get back to some trains...

                            probably  after a long nap...

        can't wait till things are some what back to normal...

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beardog posted:
randr posted:

Made signs9E165B48-7853-47F5-94E4-E35DDD81BBBDCA1C59A3-C98C-4C81-BD29-52265F27571E673ECF4A-1B05-49EA-97E2-DC82BB61482C

For my granddaughter 

If you can give me a mailing address, we can get you a flamingo to go with your

grandaughters flamingo frosty bar '

John

I always had flamingos  in the front yard, but now I live in a condo and there are probably restrictions in the rules and regulations

briansilvermustang posted:

been super busy at work re arranging the shop for a new machine center, long days...

 

        
the new CNC machine...  will start setting it up today...

  the shop some what back together yesterday...  I'm tired...

              now hopefully to get back to some trains...

                            probably  after a long nap...

        can't wait till things are some what back to normal...

wow now thats a CNC! where in Ohio are you?

RSJB18 posted:

OK So I hope this is a REALLY BAD APRIL FOOLS JOKE

2018-04-02 07.13.35

2018-04-01 16.04.02I also made my own dwarf signals.  Check out page 206, 4/23/16, page 221, 6/30/16 & page 231, 8/16/16 for details.

You should be able cover the back with sheet styrene.  I would suggest using cat5 wire and conceal everything in the body of the signal.  I installed my signals to indicate switch allinment.  Good luck with the snow and your signals.   Dave

 

 

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briansilvermustang posted:

thank you Mark !  been here going on 27 years now,

          started here with Bridgeport mills that didn't even have digital readouts on them...

              we now have 10 CNC machines; 4 wires, 2 lathes, now 4 mills...

I worked at a tool and die shop near here in Saxonburg, Penna when I couldn't get work in electronics back in the mid '80s.  About 2 years ago, my friend showed me CNC machines at the shop where GE made the prime movers for their latest Tier 4 diesel engines where he retired from last year.  Amazing!

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randr posted:

Made signs9E165B48-7853-47F5-94E4-E35DDD81BBBDCA1C59A3-C98C-4C81-BD29-52265F27571E673ECF4A-1B05-49EA-97E2-DC82BB61482C

For my granddaughter 

If you can give me a mailing address, we can get you a flamingo to go with your

grandaughters flamingo frosty bar '

John

randr posted:

Recycled unused plasticville and accessories 650670C9-1648-4C1F-8597-1787E9D16326

the flamingo I am talking about is about 2" tall

mike g. posted:

Brian, the shop looks great! How did you move everything and keep the floor looking so good! I bet you had a good night sleep after that!

         a lot of scrubbing where the machines once sat...

               this stuff was a pain to get off the floor...

        you can still see where the machines were...

    I came in Easter morning and gave the floor a good  mopping and send him some pictures,  the floor is one of the owners pet peeves... which I found out the 1st week I started here, dropping a 12' I beam, chipping the new finished floor, he still hasn't forgotten...

   I called the owner once the machine was set in place and checked out,  to tell everything looked good, one of his following questions was,  " how does my floor look, good ?"  kinda' funny...

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Hey guys, I shot a bunch of before and afters for "show and tell" this weekend at the Modelers Retreat. There are 40 pairs in the slide show, here are a few of the most dramatic. Before was done for last year's retreat, 13 moths ago.

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Here are the latest of the bluff. I worked on it all day yesterday. I ran out of already made trees from enterTRAINment, and finally found my buckets of material.

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I had a huge box of already shaped Woodland Scenics armatures. I just slather contact cement on the branches, and dip them in the bucket.

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Nothing like having individual trees to make a big impression. I figure there are over 100, I didn't count.

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As I approached the carved section, I started using clump foliage instead of trees, hot gluing it in place.

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I got that seam to almost disappear.

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Still have some work to do.

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Should wrap up this project Thursday, then I can start on the ground. I just picked up my last construction vehicle at the post office this morning. It was tough finding this one with the fork attachment. Got it on the bay, from a guy in the Netherlands.

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I’m working on changing the “Stoney Creek Road” on the layout. It never looked right to me, and I recently read where someone made a decent looking paved/gravel road with 100-grit sandpaper. I bought some a couple of nights ago and gave it a try. I did all the work with a couple of uncut sheets of it on the table, working on it with paints and such. I think it didn’t turn out half bad, better than it is right now, anyway. Now I just need to figure out how to scrape down the existing road surface and get this cut out and then glued into place.
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You can sort of tell the layout of the road from the edges I drew (wider than I think I'll need, just in case). The bottom right corner on the right sheet is to cover a corner right up to the grade crossing this road spans. It was just short a tiny bit for the one sheet to cover the longer of the two segments. I also put in lines from cars turning out of the driveway to a depot as well. I wanted to not to have to do much of anything else other than gluing it down and getting the edges matched to the rest of the layout (which I assume will be the hard part).

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p51 posted:
I’m working on changing the “Stoney Creek Road” on the layout. It never looked right to me, and I recently read where someone made a decent looking paved/gravel road with 100-grit sandpaper. I bought some a couple of nights ago and gave it a try. I did all the work with a couple of uncut sheets of it on the table, working on it with paints and such. I think it didn’t turn out half bad, better than it is right now, anyway. Now I just need to figure out how to scrape down the existing road surface and get this cut out and then glued into place.
0403182343-1
You can sort of tell the layout of the road from the edges I drew (wider than I think I'll need, just in case). The bottom right corner on the right sheet is to cover a corner right up to the grade crossing this road spans. It was just short a tiny bit for the one sheet to cover the longer of the two segments. I also put in lines from cars turning out of the driveway to a depot as well. I wanted to not to have to do much of anything else other than gluing it down and getting the edges matched to the rest of the layout (which I assume will be the hard part).

Looks good Lee! Please keep us posted on how you get the old road out and some pictures of the new road in place!

p51 posted:
I’m working on changing the “Stoney Creek Road” on the layout. It never looked right to me, and I recently read where someone made a decent looking paved/gravel road with 100-grit sandpaper. I bought some a couple of nights ago and gave it a try. I did all the work with a couple of uncut sheets of it on the table, working on it with paints and such. I think it didn’t turn out half bad, better than it is right now, anyway. Now I just need to figure out how to scrape down the existing road surface and get this cut out and then glued into place.
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You can sort of tell the layout of the road from the edges I drew (wider than I think I'll need, just in case). The bottom right corner on the right sheet is to cover a corner right up to the grade crossing this road spans. It was just short a tiny bit for the one sheet to cover the longer of the two segments. I also put in lines from cars turning out of the driveway to a depot as well. I wanted to not to have to do much of anything else other than gluing it down and getting the edges matched to the rest of the layout (which I assume will be the hard part).

I used 3M non-skid material that is used on stairs. It has a very sticky backing that settles down nicely. It can be painted to represent the age of the road. The material is black so I applied a coat of a grey-black paint. After that I dusted a grey chalk over the road to the degree that I felt I was looking for.20171231_125347GEDC3180CVRR 285

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p51 posted:
I’m working on changing the “Stoney Creek Road” on the layout. It never looked right to me, and I recently read where someone made a decent looking paved/gravel road with 100-grit sandpaper. I bought some a couple of nights ago and gave it a try. I did all the work with a couple of uncut sheets of it on the table, working on it with paints and such. 
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Well, the Sandpaper idea failed miserably. I put the paper down, weighted it, and something about the backing didn't want to stick to anything. Then, it looked exactly like what it was, a flat piece of something with relief painted on it. So, I scraped everything clean again and put a very thin layer of fine ballast down in it's placs. It looks a lot like the tar and gravel roads that were there anyway. I will eventually put some weathering, for exhaust stains and oil spills, and some cracks in the surface after the glue dries, sometime tomorrow or later. In other terms, the normal debris on a country road. But still, it looks a lot better than it did earlier today.
The white car is where it is in the shot to keep the photographer figure upright while the glue dries. I had to remove him during this project.

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This is actually the look I was looking for, anyway. The actual road this represents was not paved at the time the layout takes place, and instead was a gravel road held together with oil and tar.

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p51 posted:
p51 posted:
I’m working on changing the “Stoney Creek Road” on the layout. It never looked right to me, and I recently read where someone made a decent looking paved/gravel road with 100-grit sandpaper. I bought some a couple of nights ago and gave it a try. I did all the work with a couple of uncut sheets of it on the table, working on it with paints and such. 
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Well, the Sandpaper idea failed miserably. I put the paper down, weighted it, and something about the backing didn't want to stick to anything. Then, it looked exactly like what it was, a flat piece of something with relief painted on it. So, I scraped everything clean again and put a very thin layer of fine ballast down in it's placs. It looks a lot like the tar and gravel roads that were there anyway. I will eventually put some weathering, for exhaust stains and oil spills, and some cracks in the surface after the glue dries, sometime tomorrow or later. In other terms, the normal debris on a country road. But still, it looks a lot better than it did earlier today.
The white car is where it is in the shot to keep the photographer figure upright while the glue dries. I had to remove him during this project.

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This is actually the look I was looking for, anyway. The actual road this represents was not paved at the time the layout takes place, and instead was a gravel road held together with oil and tar.

I like it Lee. I made a dirt road, (made of real dirt) also in my town of Coalwood. I may have to borrow your idea of a gravel road for my town of Walnut Creek. CVRR 121

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darlander posted:
RSJB18 posted:

OK So I hope this is a REALLY BAD APRIL FOOLS JOKE

2018-04-02 07.13.35

2018-04-01 16.04.02I also made my own dwarf signals.  Check out page 206, 4/23/16, page 221, 6/30/16 & page 231, 8/16/16 for details.

You should be able cover the back with sheet styrene.  I would suggest using cat5 wire and conceal everything in the body of the signal.  I installed my signals to indicate switch allinment.  Good luck with the snow and your signals.   Dave

 

 

Just looked at your old posts Dave. Exactly what I'm going for. I think I will stay with the boards though. I thought the shrink tubing would get too bulky.  The signal bodies are square so the styrene will fit right to the edge. The tubing is a good idea to act as a stand and to hide the wiring. I'm using some old 22/4 phone wire. The colors are right and its stranded so it takes the solder better. Thanks for the reference material.

Bob

We’ve made a fair bit of progress on the layout since the last update:

  • Removed all track, bridges, and accessories and painted homasote and plywood to seal and prep for scenery
  • Painted elevated bridge sections in flat black
  • Cut Gargraves track sections to connect track to switches
  • Installed Ross O-54 switches and wired up the DZ2500 Switch Motors for non-derailing operation
  • Wired up first two drops for the elevated section

We painted the homasote and plywood to seal out moisture and give it a more dirt and stone look. Given that homasote is a compressed paper product, we want to ensure as we’re adding scenery and gluing it down with white glue and water, the homasote doesn’t swell.

The elevated section is coming along nicely, we’ve been able to run a test train around to test connectivity and the non-derailing features of the switches.  We still have the following to do for the elevated section:

  1. Extend insulated rail section for non-derailing operation to allow for faster trains on the upper loop
  2. Wire two more power drops for the elevated section
  3. Cut, paint, and glue track support girders under each switch curved section
  4. Glue down bridge supports in their final locations
  5. Figure out how we want to wire up the DZ2500 switch motors for remote throwing

 

One “lesson learned” from the Ross switches, or rather the Z-stuff DZ2500 switch motor, is that unlike the DZ1000 motors, the DZ2500s throw at a prototypical speed (read: slow).  While I’m sure it looks great for switches closer to the observer, it’s not really needed for our elevated section since the switches are at the back of the layout and we’re really aiming for fast performance rather than prototypical operation.  What I may do is wire up the non-derailing wires (green and yellow) rather than the Thru and Out wires (blue and white) so the motors will always throw at their fastest speed.

Once the elevated section is complete, we’ll have all tracks operational and be able to run four trains simultaneously with no operator intervention (and five trains if we keep an eye on it).

Yes, we realize there’s some odd consists running on the layout (a 2-10-4 Texas with Intermodal cars and an O-27 Lionel 2037 with a scale Superliner), but that’s just to test overhead and curve clearances :-)

Jushavnfun posted:

Soldered wires,  drilled holes, feed wires , hooked up to terminal strips. 

New layout with rail yard, turn table and operating accessories, 

Accessories 's 21 thru 24, couple more to  go.

Sounds like a good days work! Better take a break and relax! It will be there tomorrow!

Finished the bench work on my new layout and couldn't stand it so I  flattened out about 9-10  heavy duty shipping boxes I had from moving. Covered the bench work and put down a loop of Standard gauge track then O gauge. Ran trains !!   Not pretty but it works until I get my Homasote. My first Lionel engine, a Standard gauge 318 had the honor of running the first train and my 2018, first  Lionel engine I ever bought ran the first O gauge.  Second train was my M1000 to test the curves, it hadn't run in almost a year. All went well, a good day. Will take some photos  tomorrow.

mattrain posted:

We’ve made a fair bit of progress on the layout since the last update:

  • Removed all track, bridges, and accessories and painted homasote and plywood to seal and prep for scenery
  • Painted elevated bridge sections in flat black
  • Cut Gargraves track sections to connect track to switches
  • Installed Ross O-54 switches and wired up the DZ2500 Switch Motors for non-derailing operation
  • Wired up first two drops for the elevated section

We painted the homasote and plywood to seal out moisture and give it a more dirt and stone look. Given that homasote is a compressed paper product, we want to ensure as we’re adding scenery and gluing it down with white glue and water, the homasote doesn’t swell.

The elevated section is coming along nicely, we’ve been able to run a test train around to test connectivity and the non-derailing features of the switches.  We still have the following to do for the elevated section:

  1. Extend insulated rail section for non-derailing operation to allow for faster trains on the upper loop
  2. Wire two more power drops for the elevated section
  3. Cut, paint, and glue track support girders under each switch curved section
  4. Glue down bridge supports in their final locations
  5. Figure out how we want to wire up the DZ2500 switch motors for remote throwing

 

One “lesson learned” from the Ross switches, or rather the Z-stuff DZ2500 switch motor, is that unlike the DZ1000 motors, the DZ2500s throw at a prototypical speed (read: slow).  While I’m sure it looks great for switches closer to the observer, it’s not really needed for our elevated section since the switches are at the back of the layout and we’re really aiming for fast performance rather than prototypical operation.  What I may do is wire up the non-derailing wires (green and yellow) rather than the Thru and Out wires (blue and white) so the motors will always throw at their fastest speed.

Once the elevated section is complete, we’ll have all tracks operational and be able to run four trains simultaneously with no operator intervention (and five trains if we keep an eye on it).

Yes, we realize there’s some odd consists running on the layout (a 2-10-4 Texas with Intermodal cars and an O-27 Lionel 2037 with a scale Superliner), but that’s just to test overhead and curve clearances :-)

I have both switches on my layout and while the 2500's do throw slower, they have a quick throw when wired for non-derailing.  Honestly, I can't tell a difference between the non-derailing speed of either of the two switches.  

Everything is looking real good.  Good Job!

I disassembled the Joustra Silver Arrow I recently got after it toasted itself. 

I am not sure what this motor is, any one have any ideas? The train came

from France so it could be anything. 

I used to rewind and balance Mabuchi can motors back in my slot car

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Ok, take right hand, firmly slap forehead. Its a DC motor, they don't run real well

on AC. When the seller said it was electrified for three rail I didn't even think DC. 

Lots of you guys are familiar with how DC motors can run on AC, what do I need to have to make

it run on AC, or should I just hook up a DC powerpack when I run it. 

beardog posted:

Ok, take right hand, firmly slap forehead. Its a DC motor, they don't run real well

on AC. When the seller said it was electrified for three rail I didn't even think DC. 

Lots of you guys are familiar with how DC motors can run on AC, what do I need to have to make

it run on AC, or should I just hook up a DC powerpack when I run it. 

https://www.radioshack.com/pro...0v-bridge-rectifiers

The two contacts in the middle go to the AC.  Wire one to the pickups and one to the ground.   The + contact goes to the red wire on the motor; the - contact goes to the blue wire on the motor.   Your DC motor will now run fine on AC power. 

Have fun, and good luck! 

Mitch 

Over the last two days, I decided to rip up the road surface on one of to grade crossings on the layout. The road surface was a work in progress that I never liked. The real road was gravel and tar, and the black surface I had just didn't look right. So, I ripped it all up, laid in fine ballast for a new surface, let that glue dry overnight and I just finished placing paint and powder highlights to look like a well-travelled but still relatively decent road surface. I even dry-brushed signs of someone having to stop quickly for a train at the crossing the past.
These shots show the progression at the same point, in order:

And finally, a side view showing the painted detail and weathering:

p51 posted:

Over the last two days, I decided to rip up the road surface on one of to grade crossings on the layout. The road surface was a work in progress that I never liked. The real road was gravel and tar, and the black surface I had just didn't look right. So, I ripped it all up, laid in fine ballast for a new surface, let that glue dry overnight and I just finished placing paint and powder highlights to look like a well-travelled but still relatively decent road surface. I even dry-brushed signs of someone having to stop quickly for a train at the crossing the past.
These shots show the progression at the same point, in order:

And finally, a side view showing the painted detail and weathering:

Lee, how did you do the oil spills?

gandydancer1950 posted:
p51 posted:

 

Lee, how did you do the oil spills?

Tell you what, I'll go over the whole thing, just in case anyone else was wondering about other details:

I put down as fine ballast as I could get, then sprinkled in a few cinders and placed larger ballast on the sides of the roads (for the little rocks and debris you see on the sides of roads, knocked there by traffic), and some ground foam.

As for the oil stains, they were painted in. I also cut to parallel lines on a sheet of paper and used that as a stencil to dry brush a skid mark in place.

Note the lighter color lines where the majority of the tire contacts would be. That's a feature of every gravel road I've ever seen, so I dry-brushed white into two parallel lines in that spot. You can't really see it until you back up.

I then dry-brushed some general stains and grime (using mostly Floquil Grimy Black) in random spots on the surface. I also did some drips and marks coming in/out of each side road.

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Oddly, the tire marks on the road from the above photo don't seem to match the marks on the crossing planks, but I think it's the angle of this shot. When you look down the road from a O scale driver's perspective, they do line up.

 

Lee- the new road looks great. We had tar/ gravel roads in my neighborhood growing up.

You nailed it IMHO.

Thanks much, Bob!

Lee, I think the road turned out looking great! Nice weathering !

Thank you very much, Mike! If you're heading to the model train show in Chehalis this weekend, I'll have a sales table there tomorrow. Be sure to say hi if you see me (I'll probably be wearing my NASA jacket)

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p51 posted:
gandydancer1950 posted:
p51 posted:

 

Lee, how did you do the oil spills?

Tell you what, I'll go over the whole thing, just in case anyone else was wondering about other details:

I put down as fine ballast as I could get, then sprinkled in a few cinders and placed larger ballast on the sides of the roads (for the little rocks and debris you see on the sides of roads, knocked there by traffic), and some ground foam.

As for the oil stains, they were painted in. I also cut to parallel lines on a sheet of paper and used that as a stencil to dry brush a skid mark in place.

Note the lighter color lines where the majority of the tire contacts would be. That's a feature of every gravel road I've ever seen, so I dry-brushed white into two parallel lines in that spot. You can't really see it until you back up.

I then dry-brushed some general stains and grime (using mostly Floquil Grimy Black) in random spots on the surface. I also did some drips and marks coming in/out of each side road.

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Oddly, the tire marks on the road from the above photo don't seem to match the marks on the crossing planks, but I think it's the angle of this shot. When you look down the road from a O scale driver's perspective, they do line up.

 

Lee- the new road looks great. We had tar/ gravel roads in my neighborhood growing up.

You nailed it IMHO.

Thanks much, Bob!

Lee, I think the road turned out looking great! Nice weathering !

Thank you very much, Mike! If you're heading to the model train show in Chehalis this weekend, I'll have a sales table there tomorrow. Be sure to say hi if you see me (I'll probably be wearing my NASA jacket)

Thanks!

beardog posted:

Now I know the true meaning of "slow boat from china". The bridge rectifiers I ordered yesterday

shipped yesterday. ETA 4/29-5/29

One of our daughters buys a lot of fiber art supplies from China.  The prices are dirt cheap, but you had better not be in a hurry!!  I think they still go around the horn!!  

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beardog posted:

Now I know the true meaning of "slow boat from china". The bridge rectifiers I ordered yesterday

shipped yesterday. ETA 4/29-5/29

Yeah, if you're in a hurry, click "3 Day Shipping" in the search.  Pricier, but it won't take a month to get here...    

A couple of my more recent projects:  

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A cracked caboose shell and a beatup flat car combine to make a transfer caboose, and a couple of Fasttrack bumpers made with #26 bumpers.  Tried a couple of different methods:  The bumper on the left has been trimmed down to fit on the track, while the bumper on the right has had holes hogged out of the road bed to fit the tabs on the bumper.   I think I prefer the right hand method, as one can readily reuse the bumper on tubular track should the need arise... 

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Interesting evening planned.  My son is coming over after work and my wife is fixing a nice home-cooked dinner.  Then we are going to have a small family operating session.  My wife jokingly said that maybe she would want to learn how.  My son and I jumped on that like "a dog on a bone" or "a duck on a June bug" depending on your favorite saying.

So I spotted cars, developed and printed some schedules, and we will see how it goes.  I was experimenting with my new Eola Yard this week and was reasonably happy with the results.  I am going to try having my wife start out as engineer with my son as her conductor.  I will run the "meat train" and the locals while they are busy making up trains in the yard and switching some local industries.

I'm excited about this for many reasons:

  • Trying to get my wife more interested in trains.
  • Having a fun family night.
  • Practicing operations to work out the bugs and improve the experience.
  • See which method of train control is preferred, handhelds or PC tablet.
  • Take a break from just working on the layout every day lately.

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Not for my current layout, but for a small one I'll build when I retire this summer. Son and I began working on a Korber O scale grain elevator. We got the silos done today . Also began putting together a dust collecting cyclone kit, HO scale from Walthers (Wish I could find a O one, but the HO one should work since cyclones come in a lot of sizes.29793663_1945708952138458_735260777161687040_n

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I wanted to go out and hunt flamingos but instead went to  Home Deot in Carlisle, Pa. and got my Homasote. They cut it for me which saved a lot of work. Had to trim two 2 ft wide pieces and a sharp utility knife took care of that. Brought it back and soon had it down with track on it. Ran some teast trains. Next is the green indoor/outdoor carpet and figured a way to put it down with minimum fuss and bother. It was mild today and snow tomorrow morning  !!

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:
beardog posted:

Now I know the true meaning of "slow boat from china". The bridge rectifiers I ordered yesterday

shipped yesterday. ETA 4/29-5/29

Yeah, if you're in a hurry, click "3 Day Shipping" in the search.  Pricier, but it won't take a month to get here...    

A couple of my more recent projects:  

GEDC0867

A cracked caboose shell and a beatup flat car combine to make a transfer caboose, and a couple of Fasttrack bumpers made with #26 bumpers.  Tried a couple of different methods:  The bumper on the left has been trimmed down to fit on the track, while the bumper on the right has had holes hogged out of the road bed to fit the tabs on the bumper.   I think I prefer the right hand method, as one can readily reuse the bumper on tubular track should the need arise... 

Mitch

Mitch I've got some more busted SP shells, plus a box of S Gauge Flyer busted caboose shells if you wanna make more...

Brian:  That wooden obs looks like a really nice car.  What make is it?  Do you have a complete train of those old woodies?  Prototype for that style of car would have been about 1895 to 1905.  I've always felt that this period has been neglected by most manufacturers, both for cars as well as engines.  The only similar car that i'm aware of was made by MTH and then, I don't remember if it was ever made as an observation car.

Paul Fischer

Working on switch inputs to signal system. Once I get the signals working properly, I'll hide/conceal the wires on the bridge.

Nearest track is east yard lead which ends at this interlocking and gets the stop signal since all switches are lined for the mains. Track 1 and Track 2 both get clear signals through the interlocking.

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Throwing the switch for the cross-over from track 1 to 2, gives a medium clear signal to track 1, and stop for track 2.

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Had the kids and grand kids here for the past 5 days. But while they were here a few nice things came in. I got my tickets from Menard's for the train show they co-sponsor in Eau Claire Wi in July. Then my set of Weaver trucks came. Today I went to the Medina Ohio show and pick up a few vehicles. The show seemed to be missing a number of vendors and the crowd was on the small side. Unless it picked up after I left.  Then on the way home I made a side trip  to Menard's and picked up my Morton Salt trucks and the freebie trucks. Now with the house quiet I can go back to working on the layout. I will be hosting my Tuesday night group the week after York. And with going to York it does not leave me a lot of time to get the layouts ready. Got to double down now. Pics.....Paul

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Another project from this weekend was to respray a junk Plasticville station I had sitting around in pieces.  I replaced two missing doors with some scrap sheet plastic, with sewing pins for doorknobs.   Came out pretty good, if I do say so myself...

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The Razorback Traction Co. transfer caboose is complete!   Railings were cut down from the Lionel RS-3 whose chassis is under the Crocodile and whose shell adorns the Red Monster.  When you're impoverished,  you learn to reuse and recycle...  

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Fortescue J. Gi-raffe approves of the work... 

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But what's this?! 

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A...FLAMINGO INVADER!!! 

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So far, things seem cordial enough,  but who knows what will happen? 

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(Many thanks to Beardog for the flamingo!  It's adorable!) 

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Paul, I'm glad you got to spend time with the kids and grandkids.  That's neat you are going to the show in Eau Claire!  Sounds like you could meet up with Elliot!

Briansilvermustang asked me if I had done any more with my layout.  Over this weekend I did get a bit done.  I pulled out the tacks I used to secure the cork, then sanded the rough edges off the cork and smoothed it up a bit.  I then took a tip from someone several months ago and sprayed the cork with gray stone paint by Rustoleum to give the impression of ballast until I do ballast sometime in the future.  I first tried Testors, and that little can was gone in no time flat.  Some folks ballast before putting in the rest of the scenery, and others leave the ballast go until after the scenery.  I found in HO that I fit in the latter group.  One photograph.

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I wanted to try out my new Broadway Limited cars, but, with one mainline out of commission and the other two somewhat crowded with engines/trains, I had to spend about half an hour shifting things around on the layout. I guess if I used the deus ex machina method (aka the hand of God), I could have cleared the tracks in five minutes, but there was something decidedly enjoyable about getting everything off the tracks without any crashes  

Here is a short video of my six car Broadway Limited behind a Visionline GG-1.

Overall, I am very pleased with these cars - they are beautiful. I haven't set up the Sound car yet, so all I have is the running sounds and they are way cool. However, I did find a few very minor issues when I got the cars on the track...

  • the operating coupler on the observation car was binding on curves - simple fix, just had to back off the two very small screws holding the plate over the coupler a slight bit
  • one coupler on the sleeper kept opening, usually on a curve - another simple fix... when I close the coupler by hand, it was very stiff - if I pushed it in hard, it locked and stayed shut. Since I am not going to separate the cars (when not running, they will sit as a unit on a siding), no big deal
  • the sound car doesn't light up - I have no idea how to open the car, so I am not sure if it is worth trying to open the car to see if something is loose. Not a big deal to me.

 

Next stop Chicago!!!

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Got a lot accomplished on the new layout. Homasoted own, green carpet down, 3 loops of track down,  extra boards in the middle to narrow the opening  to make more space for "stuff" and hooked up a ZW for the Standard gauge track. The one I had used on my old layout somehow got a short in it. Using a KW for the 3rd track.  Will gradually start moving some of my buildings and engines on to the layout this week. Have the towers, signals, people and vehicles to go.  More fun.

Apples55 posted:

I wanted to try out my new Broadway Limited cars, but, with one mainline out of commission and the other two somewhat crowded with engines/trains, I had to spend about half an hour shifting things around on the layout. I guess if I used the deus ex machina method (aka the hand of God), I could have cleared the tracks in five minutes, but there was something decidedly enjoyable about getting everything off the tracks without any crashes  

Here is a short video of my six car Broadway Limited behind a Visionline GG-1.

Overall, I am very pleased with these cars - they are beautiful. I haven't set up the Sound car yet, so all I have is the running sounds and they are way cool. However, I did find a few very minor issues when I got the cars on the track...

  • the operating coupler on the observation car was binding on curves - simple fix, just had to back off the two very small screws holding the plate over the coupler a slight bit
  • one coupler on the sleeper kept opening, usually on a curve - another simple fix... when I close the coupler by hand, it was very stiff - if I pushed it in hard, it locked and stayed shut. Since I am not going to separate the cars (when not running, they will sit as a unit on a siding), no big deal
  • the sound car doesn't light up - I have no idea how to open the car, so I am not sure if it is worth trying to open the car to see if something is loose. Not a big deal to me.

 

Next stop Chicago!!!

I had the same issue with the sound car “no lights” before I set it up. No need to open it. Once you assign an ID to the car and program it, the lights come on. The light switch on the bottom of the car is set to “on” from the factory. Enjoy, the sound car is a lot of fun. 

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I had the same issue with the sound car “no lights” before I set it up. No need to open it. Once you assign an ID to the car and program it, the lights come on. The light switch on the bottom of the car is set to “on” from the factory. Enjoy, the sound car is a lot of fun. 

Thanks Ed. I'll give it a try (as soon as I can find an available number in my Legacy remote   )

paul 2 posted:

Had the kids and grand kids here for the past 5 days. But while they were here a few nice things came in. I got my tickets from Menard's for the train show they co-sponsor in Eau Claire Wi in July. Then my set of Weaver trucks came. Today I went to the Medina Ohio show and pick up a few vehicles. The show seemed to be missing a number of vendors and the crowd was on the small side. Unless it picked up after I left.  Then on the way home I made a side trip  to Menard's and picked up my Morton Salt trucks and the freebie trucks. Now with the house quiet I can go back to working on the layout. I will be hosting my Tuesday night group the week after York. And with going to York it does not leave me a lot of time to get the layouts ready. Got to double down now. Pics.....Paul

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I'm glad to see you have your tickets already !!!   See you at the Menards booth     !!

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Paul, I am glad you had a good time with the Kids and Grandkids! Some great finds there and a really good deal from Menards! Sure sounds like a great weekend!

Mark, I think the cork turned out looking great! Now you just have the rest to paint! LOL

Jushavnfun, That bridge really looks nice and seams to run smooth! Great job!

I sure wish I was going to the train show in Eau Claire, WI. Sounds like it going to be a fun time by all! Plus a chance to meet Bob again and Elliot! What a great plus! Just a long drive from Hoodsport, Wa.

I may have actually (almost) finished my basement/train room (well, I don't know if you call it finished, let's call it half civilized) and if the myriad little things I am finding get fixed, might actually be able to start seriously moving forward with a layout. If the layout takes as long to conceptualize and build as the basement has, by the time I start the layout Elliot will have finished his current layout, gotten bored with it, torn it down and built an even bigger one that replicates the entire original NYC route, gotten bored with that and built himself a real railroad by himself

 

Seriously, I might actually see the promised land, somehow I expect I'll get the first pieces for the table together and my wife will decide it is time to move and that is that....or I'll look at the cost of the track and such for the layout I want to build and drop dead of shock......

ToledoEd posted:

I had the same issue with the sound car “no lights” before I set it up. No need to open it. Once you assign an ID to the car and program it, the lights come on. The light switch on the bottom of the car is set to “on” from the factory. Enjoy, the sound car is a lot of fun. 

 

Ed;

You're a gentleman and a scholar!!! Programmed the sound car (Engine 97... fortunately I still have some lower numbers available) and set it up as a train with the GG1 - luckily they are both Legacy, so I wasn't restricted for the train number. And there was light. 

Thanks.

I had the photographer over the other day and he took 208 pictures. I never new it would be such hard work taking pictures. move lights and stage trains. snap, snap and move everything again. I was ask not to post pictures yet but I will post them as soon as I can. I did run trains this week end with my grand children and I loved every minute with them. I'm getting ready to start installing my new control panel this week.

Another in the shelf queen series, took down this Marx M10000 red and silver. I actually

thought I had tuned this one before. Guess not. It was pretty shaky and jerky so I did 

the clean and lube thing. I display this as power car and 5 coaches so that is how I put

it on the track. Can you say wheel slip? I could get it to go on its own with only power car

and three coaches which is how it came originally I think. When I added the fourth coach

it made a bit of progress, but needed the five finger helper engine to get the momentum

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WOW So much great stuff going on around here. Keep up the good work everyone!

I actually turned on the power to the layout this morning for the first time in two weeks. I received my RMT Beep and gave it a quick test run before work. Cool little diesels for sure.

Bob

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Bob, nice that you got to run a little this morning! Sounds like you need some more SNOW days! LOL

Mark Boyce posted:

Yes Mike, I know you get lots of rain!  That makes for such lush forests, but has to make it hard to build a train room!

It does Mark, but I hope to be out there this weekend rain or shine putting up T-111 siding ! We will see how it goes. I might have to wait till the fallowing payday to finish the siding as it's $35 per sheet!

Day in the life with Grandpa, on a special layout trip….

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1 At local hobby shop checking out the Lionel FasTrack.

2 FastTrack A

2 What can I help grandpa with on the layout?

3 Lionel 3 Rail Track A

3 Cool! - Some stuff for the layout.

4 Grandpa in not Santa Claus

4 No! Grandpa is not Santa Claus.

5 Boys running slot cars

5 Both of the grandchildren running slot cars at the local hobby shop.

6 At ariport

6 The Oakland County Airport is right behind our local hobby shop.

7 Watching airplanes

7 Watching airplanes take off & land.

8 Terminal Bi Plane

8 Check out this cool Bi-plane hanging in the terminal.

9 Railfanning Pontiac

9 Rail-fanning at the Pontiac Amtrak Station, only about five miles from the airport.

10 Union Pacific

10 Check this out, Union Pacific 9045 freight train, south bound to Detroit.

11 Amtak Genisis

11 Amtrak Genesis on it’s way to Chicago.

12 Back at Trainroom

12 Back at Grandpa’s train room after a long day of having fun. Running two LionChief Plus Locomotives. Reading & Northern, Pacific and New York Central, Hudson.

Hope you enjoyed our day out. April 10, 2018:  Gary

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