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John Rowlen posted:

After three days of painting 38 Preiser double figures, they are ready for final inspection and correction.  These double figures take more time than the usual single figures.  I have painted approximately 165 Preiser 65602 24-Seated People packs.  This double figure was used, but not as often as the adults with babies, old woman with a cane, and others.

I am panting the few leftover figures from when I would open a new package to get a specific figure from a 24-pack for a passenger car I detailed.  I created 10 variations of these figures in order to have variety in a seven-car passenger train.  Preiser only offers two variations in their factory painted packs.

I also save significant cost by painting the figures myself.

Sincerely, John Rowlen 

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John one word Amazing 

mike g. posted:

Great work everyone, I handed out a lot of likes and wish I had time to comment but its dinner time then bed. I will be nursing a bad back so I can get back to work on the house! I hope everyone had a great day and an even better tomorrow!

Take care of your self MikeG we all know you like our works and  you don’t have to comment all the time it gets a little bit overwhelming sometimes to do that 

Johan, Thank you about the building!

Lew, You are absolutely correct.  I am going to leave the roof unattached and not add a base so I can ponder an interior, which I never did in HO and especially N scale.  Myles (Trainman2001) offers tremendous information about building interiors in his 'Continuing Saga...' topic.  I think I will finish the exterior, so I don't lose the parts  then set it aside while I think about interior treatments, methods, and materials.

John, I also am always so impressed and encouraged about all your painted passengers!  I had a different thought than Mitch.  The photo looked like a formal photograph at a sock hop from the days not long before I was in high school.  Boys wore a jacket and ties, the girls wore bobby socks.  (In my day, the fellows didn't need a tie and the girls were allowed to wear slacks instead of dresses that were required for classes.  Both boys and girls could wear jeans as long as there were no rivets on the pockets that would scratch the bleachers.)  Fantastic!

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geysergazer posted:

Mark: projects, projects! This building really is begging for an interior....both floors. 

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Nice looking what kind was you thinking 

Thank you Lee!  Yes, suggestions are always welcome!  The kit is marketed as a drug store and has an RX sign is suggested to hang off the second floor corner, but I wouldn't have to use it on this kit.

Morning guys Its Hump day!

Mark, Looks like a good start on the River Leaf building. You could always put an apartment on the second floor for the owners to live in and on the main floor a train store or hobby shop!

Lee D,  Outstanding work on the Reefer car! It really looks great! I will look around to see if there is something I can send your way so you don't run out of projects! LOL Thanks for your earlier comments, I got some rest over night and will see how long the back last today!

John, Amazing job on all your couples! One thing though, I don't see any gray haired couples, and from what I see in pictures a lot of couples that ride trains are gray! LOL

I hope everyone has a great day and finds time to have fun with there layout and trains!

Mark Boyce posted:

Johan, the cars and backdrop look great!

Brian, NS&EW, That is the perfect name for your railroad!!

Kevin, the station area looks great!

Gerhardt, You are doing a great job fitting in a lot of layout in 10x12!!

Rick, the layout looks great so far.  You are doing a good job, and I hope your little ones will enjoy trains with you.  I see a Go Steelers sign on the wall.  Do you live in the Pittsburgh area?  Also, check your wanted to buy post, I replied there also.  

 

While waiting to get some better colored paint for the AmeriTowne window sills, I dug out all the parts for this River Leaf Models building I started a long time ago.  I'm thinking I put it all on the shelf back in 2014-15 when I had carpal tunnel issues and surgery for the second time and never got it back out.  I trimmed, sanded and attached all the windows and doors today.  Yes, I see I need to do something with the interior on this one.  Who knows what I was thinking 5 years ago.  

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Mark, your structure is coming along very well. I wanted to do a drug store and had some Ameritowne fronts so made a double building which had the drug store, music school, a locksmith and next door is the Royal Plaza Hotel. I thought awnings would really dress things up so made them from file folders. 

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I've been working on a factory for my layout.  It's going to be fairly large, but not the largest one planned. Approximate 31X15X18 high.  All made from 1 sheet of 1/2 inch MDF and 1/8 inch tempered hardboard. The MDF was ripped on my table saw to 1/2 inch square pieces then cut to length. They were all marked for their position a day then 1/2 inch dadoes were cut to form half laps for each piece.20191104_09225520191106_095349 all the pieces were glued and assembled and attached to a 1/4 inch hardboard base. The interior was give a rattle can coating of red oxide paint. Then the 1/8 inch hardboard sheets went on to give the building some strength.20191106_09551120200208_16105120200208_161130

The work isn't finished.  I still need to cut the sides to roof height and build windows. Lastly will come the roof. I also will be adding a  skin of corrugated metal on top of the hardboard. Adjacent to it will be my electric arc furnace building.  That one will be 48x24X22 high, possibly with an open front so I can detail the interior.

Stay tuned for more. 

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Ray,

Your buildings look great!  Yes, the buildings with offices in the upstairs is a possibility too.  It reminds me of Philip Marlow's upstairs office.  Years ago, our insurance man had an upstairs office like that.  The awning looks good, and awnings are definitely a good detail to add.

Bill, That factory is huge, and the planned one with it will definitely dwarf the trains, but suggest a big reason for rail service!

Mark, I'd be very tempted to do a butcher shop but of course Roomie's Granddad and later her Uncle had a butcher shop in Aspinwall.  Seriously though, that building is actually smaller than it looks and a butcher shop would fit in it without looking overcrowded. It could be pretty simple with a white meat case crossways about a third of the way back that would show up nicely through the front windows. A beef quarter hung behind the meat case to one side and a butcher-block to the other and you would have a believable scene. You could even get carried away and put up two walls in one back corner with a door and you'd have a walk-in cooler. Oh, and a ring of sausage hung. Can't forget that!

Heh. EDITED FOR CLARIFICATION. It's not that I get Mike and Mark mixed up as people but rather that my senior brain sometimes takes over the fingers on the keyboard.

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Mark Boyce posted:

I dug out all the parts for this River Leaf Models building I started a long time ago.  

Mark, thanks for the kind words. That building that you're working on is coming along very nicely, the brick facade looks great!  I live in Hershey. I grew up in Beaver County and my grand parent did crafts and wood working before they passed. The stuff on that back wall is things that they made which don't really fit in upstairs but I could never part with!

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Folks, is it really necessary to reply with quotes so frequently?  And without editing the quoted post?  I visit this thread almost daily and to see so many "reply with quote" posts that do not need such treatment makes the post a "spam-like" repetition.  And using "reply with quote" doesn't mean the quoted post can't be edited to remove photos or unneeded text; there's no need to include the entire post's non-germane content.

Post what you will, but please do so with a sense of courtesy to prospective readers.

 

 

P51 :  I really like what you are doing with the Trench engine.  FYI - I was watching an episode of "Antique Roadshow" last night from "Bonanzaville, Wis" wherever that is, but the point was that one of the items shown was an artistically painted WW1 helmet that had been decorated (according to the person who brought it to the show) on the boat home from Europe with a combat scene.  What is interesting to your effort is that the owner of the helmet was an Engineer (US Army) who worked on the trains that fed the front lines or the Tench RR's.  When I heard that I thought of your effort.  The fellow who brought the helmet was the grandchild of the engineer but he had some neat stories and a bit of paperwork confirming his grandfathers role in operating those RR's. 

Best Regards, Don

I'm with you Carl. I do like to support our fellow modelers but I've been hitting the "like" button more and commenting less lately. If I reply with quote I will try and edit the post as well.

If we can all agree that a click on the like button constitutes a thank you then we would be able to stay on topic more.

Alan commented again earlier and I think we would all hate to see this thread vanish.......

Did some little things today. I added a fourth wash to the brick and now it's ready for gluing together and the windows and doors are ready for painting. Mark you had made a mention about the Hotel Antlers on my one backdrop. I didn't realize it at the time but I had blocked it out with the new flat in front. Seeing it had two water towers I cut the one off to show the sign again. The flats are now ready to be set in place. I decided I am going to cut a piece out of the tall tan building between the loading door and the row of windows. Going to add a loading dock the length of the building and that would of block out the building flats behind it totally. Pics..........Paul 2

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Mark Boyce posted:

Ray,

Your buildings look great!  Yes, the buildings with offices in the upstairs is a possibility too.  It reminds me of Philip Marlow's upstairs office.  Years ago, our insurance man had an upstairs office like that.  The awning looks good, and awnings are definitely a good detail to add.

Bill, That factory is huge, and the planned one with it will definitely dwarf the trains, but suggest a big reason for rail service!

thanks for the compliment. That building will be the annex for the electric arc furnace building.  I've started on its framework. 20200212_18480820200212_184749

Those are 5 MPC cars in front of it to give you a perspective of its size.  I would cut more hardboard walls for both buildings but my table saw is in the garage and it's only 32 degrees here in Chicago. 

I have to wait until the temp reaches at least 40 degrees to work somewhat comfortably there.

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Ray, great job on the drug store and the awnings!

Bill, WOW that is going to be a very impressive fac tory!

Mark, I am sure whatever you decide for your store front I am sure its going to look wonderful!

Lee, everyone needs to take time and run trains every now and then or it just seams like a lot of work!

Steve, The brown carpet is a nice touch!

Lew, I just love how you pull these ideas out of thin air! LOL

Paul 2, Things sure are looking great, Seams like your reaching the end of the line on the wear house row!

I sure hope everyone had a great day and are able to make tomorrow even  better!

I put a coat of paint on the lintels and sills last night. It's going to need a second coat. I also need to find a slightly smaller brush than the one I used. Hard to control the goofs.....

Windows will be white and I haven't decided what color to do the doors yet.

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I also cut out the buildings for the wall in the background. Working on another image to put behind these.

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mike g. posted:

 

Lew, I just love how you pull these ideas out of thin air! LOL

I sure hope everyone had a great day and are able to make tomorrow even  better!

Mike, sorry for the slip.  It's not that I mix people up but rather that my sometimes-senior brain takes over my fingers on the keyboard.

I went back and re-read your Post wrt how you added traverse movement to your 282 Crane. Is that the system you will use? When I thought about using similar I couldn't figure out how to make room for the long slot through the deck.

I am still painting the left over figures from the 165 boxes of Preiser 65602 Seated figures I painted in the last six years.  The 38 couples are done.

Last night I finished the 14 "Woman with a purse".  The other 151 "Woman with a purse" are in my 21" passenger cars already.  When I started painting figures six years ago, I could do no more than 12 Seated People a night.  That rate of production still holds true today.  The figures below have five colors of dresses, two colors of purses and shoes, and two colors of hair.  (No grey Mike, Sorry.)

I have tried a variety of skin tones, but the paint from three different dealers quickly dried, forming a skin layer (No pun intended) on top of the newly opened bottle.  The colors were overly glossy for a flat paint, and the figures did not look realistic.  I used up the remaining "Dark Skin Tone Flat Acryl" paint for leather jackets on the "Man with a Baby & Bottle".  The paint quickly dried and was unusable.  When painting, the newly applied paint would skin-up. off the figure. if I re-painted a wet area.

I am ready to start painting my remaining new, unopened packs of 24 Seated People, Preiser 65602.  I will take pictures of the steps I use and post them as the figures develope.

The six Canadian Pacific 21" passenger cars are supposed to arrive today.  It snowed last night, turning my yard into a winter wonderland.  I need to put out peanuts for the squirrels.  Thanks for reminding me.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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I am ready to start painting my remaining new, unopened packs of 24 Seated People, Preiser 65602.  I will take pictures of the steps I use and post them as the figures develope.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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I am sure I am not alone in looking forward to reading and seeing photos of your process, John.

I got a little more done on the River Leaf building.  I added the window and door sills and lintels.  Also the trim at the top of the brick walls.  I decided to make all of that painted fairly dark and representing wooden pars and not sandstone.  I think I will set it aside and do the interior and finish the removable roof when I am ready.

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Well, it was a weekend in the last month. But I just got back on the forum and wanted to post my progress.  So here it is:  24' X 2 ft down the long back wall and 2 4'X4' corners on the ends. 2 loops started out of 3, O-72 and O-80, #3 will be O-84 or O-88.  The other long side will be 24 X 6 or 8, depending on the space left inside. It will host a mountain for several desired settings. Track will spiral up the mountain to a sawmill on top.  Inner Track is live power with DCS for about 8 feet. Lots of ScaleTrax and some buildings are on the top.  The next add on this end is a Tilt-Up set of bridges for entry to inside the layout.  Why so Big?  I have the new MTH Scale Big Boy 4014 to run on it.

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Help me out Here!

So I have this corner on the layout that I am looking for ideas for development . Although I have a lot of scale equipment and structures, I still have the calling for some plasticVille and I   thought about putting a Plasticville farm setup on slightly elevated terrain above the track. Thought about putting a scene break just to the right of the corner in the form of a Highway grade crossing on the upper level that could continue over the lower level as an elevated highway crossing. 

So I am asking for your thoughts here on what to do with this corner. We all have dealt with corners before nd maybe you have done the perfect solution for my real estate here. Send some photos of what you may have done and maybe I can replicate it on this layout.

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And here is the Plasticville Farm 

 

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The Canadian Pacific 1927610 4-pack arrived today, so I inspected the cars for flaws.  Three of the Canadian Pacific name stripes had to be coaxed to lay flat by using an Excel knife to raise the stripe as I moved the bump toward the car door end.

When I inspected the baggage car, one window was blocked so I opened the car.  I discovered that the letter sorting desk used in the shorter Santa Fe baggage car was also in this car, but the shorter floor piece placed the desk in front of the longer Canadian Pacific door window.

I removed the desk and shifted it to the opposite side of the door.  The interior was then painted and some extra freight I had was added to the car.  Since the doors do not open on this longer baggage car, the type of freight was not as important, and I used some pieces several times.  I placed tall workers in front of the windows to attract attention to the interior freight inside the baggage car.

I did not plan on detailing these cars now, since I am still painting Preiser Seated People for the entire set of passenger cars.  It turned out to be a nice break from painting people the last several days.

Have a good weekend.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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LIRR Steamer posted:

Help me out Here!

So I have this corner on the layout that I am looking for ideas for development . Although I have a lot of scale equipment and structures, I still have the calling for some plasticVille and I   thought about putting a Plasticville farm setup on slightly elevated terrain above the track. Thought about putting a scene break just to the right of the corner in the form of a Highway grade crossing on the upper level that could continue over the lower level as an elevated highway crossing. 

So I am asking for your thoughts here on what to do with this corner. We all have dealt with corners before nd maybe you have done the perfect solution for my real estate here. Send some photos of what you may have done and maybe I can replicate it on this layout.

Here is the corner.

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LIRR- I think the Plasticville will look good up in that corner. Since it's small in scale terms it will have the appearance of being off in the distance. The road and bridges would be a good break between the scenes and could partially block the view of the farm to hide the size difference a little more. A proper backdrop on the wall of a farm  will finish it perfectly.

Bob

LIRR Steamer posted:

Help me out Here!

So I have this corner on the layout that I am looking for ideas for development . Although I have a lot of scale equipment and structures, I still have the calling for some plasticVille and I   thought about putting a Plasticville farm setup on slightly elevated terrain above the track. Thought about putting a scene break just to the right of the corner in the form of a Highway grade crossing on the upper level that could continue over the lower level as an elevated highway crossing. 

So I am asking for your thoughts here on what to do with this corner. We all have dealt with corners before nd maybe you have done the perfect solution for my real estate here. Send some photos of what you may have done and maybe I can replicate it on this layout.

Here is the corner. 

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And here is the Plasticville Farm 

 

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LIRR, I know the problem in deciding what to do, had an impossible corner and I went up because of very little room to go out. I put the footprint size into the computer and started doing what ifs and came out with this design and am very pleased with the outcome. I don't know how to do a farm there but there may be a way, good luck.

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Morning guys, its been a few day and a lot had happened so here I go. Oh By the way I read Alan's psot so this is all train related!

Paul 2, Your buildings are coming along nicely! Great idea on the backdrops and the loading docks! I cant wait to see them in place!

Bob, your building is going to be a nice addition to your layout! I agree that the backdrops at the end of the siding need its own backdrop behind them, but things are turning out very nice!

Lew, I plan on using the same system, but have to make it smaller as it now will be right above my Z4000 and wiring from my control panel. That will be one of my next projects along with getting the retaining wall along the back wall so I can ballast and be done back there so I can set building where I think I want them! As for the slot I am not sure if I will do that again, I might just ad some weight to the control wire so it will retract when the crane moves back and forth!

Johan, the scene your Santa Fe MP15 is in is just outstanding! Great work!

John, wonderful job on the women! I am glad you mentioned the problem with the paint as it gives me something to watch out for in the future. Nice work on the Canadian  Pacific baggage car!

Mark, the building is looking really good! I am wondering what you are going to do for a floor as I see there is not one right now?

Patrick, Nice work on the signals! Are you getting your relays from Azatrac ?

Russel, Great description of what your doing and nice photos of what you have done sofar! I was wondering in your next post if you might be able to post your track plan?

Ray, WOW! That looks amazing! Start to finish what great work! Makes one want to get a 3D printer and learn Cad! But CAD is a rough thing for slow learners like myself! LOL

I hope everyone has a great Friday and a wonderful weekend! Oh and don't forget to find some time for your trains and layouts! If anything just go out and run your trains till your happy!

LIRR, I am with Bob that I like the farm concept for the same reasons.  It is slightly smaller than scale, so it can give a bit of an illusion of distance.

Ray, your treatment of that corner really turned out well.  You hid some of the back curves and made a imaginative industrial building that really is a focus for attention.

Mike, Yes, the River Leaf buildings are great on the exterior, but as you point out they don't include a floor or even foundation.  I am thinking of what business to put in the building.  I am thinking of taking an approach of Myles Trainman2001, of building the interior on the base with a foundation, even if it is just a picture of the inside of the store and the exterior one block high.  The same for the second floor.  The kit comes with nice venetian blinds and clear plastic windows that I am not going to install until I have painted the interior walls.  All suggestions are welcome.

Last evening, I put my town buildings back on the family room layout upper level mainly so we don't bump and break any of them when I get my sons-in-law to help me move lumber in the little train/workshop room.  I don't have a date set for them to help.  I'm letting our younger son-in-law transition from working for two employers to full time with the newer one.

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