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I'm just getting started and was wondering what else do I need to set up TMCC?  I have the cab 1L and 1L base and two 180 w powerhouses, one powerhouse for each loop. I only planned on operating in TMCC mode for now. But I was reading in Lionel Fastrack Book that I need a #24130 Powermaster and a TMCC Track power controller #6-14189, too. I was talking to someone from a train shop, and he told me all I need is what I have now to get started. Why does the Lionel Fastrack Book say differently? A little bit confused as to what I might need.

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With the equipment that you already have, you could just connect the PowerHouse transformers to the track, (It's best to use an adaptor cable so as not to require cutting off the plug.) and you'll be ready to run in Legacy/TMCC mode.

 

However, I would strongly recommend that you consider using either a TPC, or preferably a Legacy PowerMaster between the PowerHouse and the track. This will not only give you the ability to run either loop in conventional mode if you ever wish to do so, but will give your trains extra protection from overloads or short-circuits. They have many extra benefits too. Here is a link to the Legacy PowerMaster manual 

 

Welcome to the wonderful world of command control. 

Originally Posted by pine tree junction:

I'm just getting started and was wondering what else do I need to set up TMCC?  I have the cab 1L and 1L base and two 180 w powerhouses, one powerhouse for each loop. I only planned on operating in TMCC mode for now. But I was reading in Lionel Fastrack Book that I need a #24130 Powermaster and a TMCC Track power controller #6-14189.

(1.) A Track Power Controller (TPC 400), at the least, is a big track power off/on switch, that can be controlled by the Cab1.

(2.) You also have the ability, (Emergency), to shut your system down via the Halt button on the Cab1. 

(3.) The TPC 400 can be used in Conventional Track mode, probably the biggest reason to add it to the list of equipment. 

(4.) It also works quite nicely controlling MTH units/locomotives in conventional mode, with most of the functions assigned to the keys on a Cab1.   I was talking to someone from a train shop, and he told me all I need is what I have now to get started. Why does the Lionel Fastrack Book say differently? A little bit confused as to what I might need.

 Link to the TPC 400 operation manual 

Last edited by Mike CT
Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:

With the equipment that you already have, you could just connect the PowerHouse transformers to the track, (It's best to use an adaptor cable so as not to require cutting off the plug.) and you'll be ready to run in Legacy/TMCC mode.

 

However, I would strongly recommend that you consider using either a TPC, or preferably a Legacy PowerMaster between the PowerHouse and the track. This will not only give you the ability to run either loop in conventional mode if you ever wish to do so, but will give your trains extra protection from overloads or short-circuits. They have many extra benefits too. Here is a link to the Legacy PowerMaster manual 

 

Welcome to the wonderful world of command control. 

I fully agree with Nicole, the protection the Powermaster gives to the electronics in your engines is priceless plus as Nicole states with the Powermaster you can run conventional trains from the remote "pretty cool"

Ray

If I were swinging this way, I'd have to consider the MTH DCS system.  Rather than buy two PowerMasters, put another $50-75 with the money and buy the DCS system with the TIU.  This gives you the ability to run conventional through the DCS remote, and you now have TMCC and DCS capability.  By connecting the serial cable from the command base to the TIU, you can run the TMCC locomotives from either your CAB1 or the DCS remote.

 

Now when you see a cool PS/2 or PS/3 locomotive that you like, you'll be able to run it.

Power Masters and TPC units are add- ons that allow you to raise and lower the track voltage from your 180w bricks.

 

This is primarily for running "conventional control" trains that speed up and slow down based on transformer voltage.

 

Lionels bricks are preset to 18v, a Powermaster/ TPC unit allows for voltage control from the throttle knob of the handheld.

 

The bottom line:

 

If your running command only, then no, you do not need a Powermaster or TPC unit.

 

If you do want to run conventional trains, you will need a Powermaster for each brick, if they are isolated from each other, I assume that they are. * Make sure you have a wire from the command base going to each seperate loop as well.

 

A TPC unit is basically a "powermaster on steroids". It would allow two bricks to be wired together and power the layout as a pair, i.e. 360w available to the whole layout.

 

This is not a popular practice as this is a "ton" of power going to the layout.

 

Originally Posted by pine tree junction:

I forgot one thing. What connections do I need for the Powermaster Legacy. And does Lionel have them?

The PowerHouse transformer will plug directly into the Legacy PowerMaster. Then all you need are 2 wires to the track. The wires to the track depend upon what kind of track you are using, but they are the same as you would use to connect a regular transformer to the track.

The Legacy PowerMaster communicates with your base unit via the track wiring, so no extra wires are involved.

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