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Made some more progress this weekend on my Lehigh Valley Baldwin VO-1000 3RS project.  Pilot shims and Kadees are now installed.  I also replaced the missing rear coupler cut lever and brackets with the scratch-built ones I showed in my earlier post (above).

I got really lucky on the coupler pockets.  Something told me to try one of Mario's GP7/9 pockets (ordered from Shapeways a while back for a future project) just to see if it would be close to the right size.  I was thinking maybe it would work with some modifications.  As it turned out, it fit like a glove in the existing pilot opening...not a bit of filing or filling needed!!

I also added pilot grab irons and a lantern-hanging bracket on the front grill per the prototype.

Next up will be my first attempt at making and installing full-length handrails, and installing pilot brake lines/air hoses/glad hands.

Here are some progress photos.  It looks like crap right now with all the green putty and bare metal, but she'll clean up nicely with some LV Cornell red!!

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Nice work. I have used Lionel gp 7/9 mounts on several different MTH engines with little or no mods and all at the correct height.  His revamped mounts are a perfect fit on The MTH SD24, GP30, GP35 and the SD40 mount with a shim worked great on the Lionel U30C. Used an Atlas GP35 mount in a Atlas SD40 and was also a perfect fit.

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Nice work. I have used Lionel gp 7/9 mounts on several different MTH engines with little or no mods and all at the correct height.  His revamped mounts are a perfect fit on The MTH SD24, GP30, GP35 and the SD40 mount with a shim worked great on the Lionel U30C. Used an Atlas GP35 mount in a Atlas SD40 and was also a perfect fit.

Suzukovich, I've been following all your threads and posts on this subject, and that's what gave me the idea to try the GP7/9 coupler mount on my VO-1000...so thank you!!

CNJ #1601 posted:
suzukovich posted:
CNJ #1601 posted

 

Nice work. I have used Lionel gp 7/9 mounts on several different MTH engines with little or no mods and all at the correct height.  His revamped mounts are a perfect fit on The MTH SD24, GP30, GP35 and the SD40 mount with a shim worked great on the Lionel U30C. Used an Atlas GP35 mount in a Atlas SD40 and was also a perfect fit.

Suzukovich, I've been following all your threads and posts on this subject, and that's what gave me the idea to try the GP7/9 coupler mount on my VO-1000...so thank you!!

Thanks. I glad I helped in some way. The reality Mario puts out some great stuff. Which is a good place to start.   Kadee just put out an Long draft gear box. Looks very similar to what Mario did a while back. Finally started on my back log today and finished up my Atlas CB&Q GP35s. I will finish up the RS11s after installs on CB&Q GP7/9s and GN GP30s. That what happens when you take a break from things. I might have some pics tomorrow.

Thanks for sharing, Suzukovich.  I've noticed that you don't add pilot spacers to most (or all) of your 3RS conversions to give the appearance of "fixed" pilots.  Any particular reason, or just personal preference?  I'm guessing it has something to do with maintaining the ability of your locomotives to negotiate tighter curves.

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Well, after many "practice" attempts and quite a bit of music wire (good thing it's inexpensive!), I've managed to make a complete set of full-length handrails for my project loco.  This was my first try at forming/bending handrails.  I even made the tiny "brackets" to mount the railings to the front of the pilots.  Here are some photos of the results...

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Nice, piano wire. Out of box solution.

  To answer your other question, Originally I was running Atlas 081 curves. Swapped them out for 090. The issue was the curves especially into the sidings of the yard and only so much room to work with. So that's why I went the route I did and didn't fix all the pilots.  New planed layout will give me more room to work with and allow for trains to run into the yard rather then now they are backed in. Current plan is to start fixing the pilots on the GPs , U25/30  and SD24. When I did the install, I did it in a way that all I have left to do is put the inserts in and the pilots are fixed. When engines are on flat surface the gaps are hardly noticeable. I don't like the look of the long shank couplers. Its just about working within my limitations.  It sucks but it is what it is.  Layout buld has been pushed back due to my truck restoration. 6500.00 and counting. Hopefully when it come out of the shop all that will be left is cosmetics. Front end rebuild/Drivetrain and wiring issues have been costly.

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Though not entirely sold on Kadees due to remote uncoupling issues related to freight operations, I thought that my recent conversion of an MTH camelback to Kadees might be of interest to someone else out there in O-Gaugeland.  Not having found any posts regarding the subject, I had to invent my own method and would be happy to share the particulars with anyone interested.

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The conversion is quite simple, if you don’t have to invent it.  Only basic hand tools are required, plus a Moto Tool, one or two Dremel cutting bits and a bench type drill press to act a milling machine.

Note to SIRT: Intent on modelling the Staten Island Rapid Transit of 1945, freight and passenger, I will remain loyal to “The Claw” for good and valid reasons.  However, upon learning that SIRT steam era passenger equipment (pre-1925) used Janney narrow gauge couplers, I decided that “The Claw” is just too crude for use on period equipment.  This particularly since I am putting considerable effort into replicating some of it, thanks to the Ed Bommer's terrific article in OST #43.  With this inspiration, I’m even considering butchery of a Labelle kit.  Prayers requested, in advance.

Note to MTH: Ppppuhleeeze, Mike, give us another camelback… electro-couplers, fore and aft, would be a nice touch.  The tooling for this CNJ knockoff must be plumb wore out, by now, and there are those of us out here who yearn for other wheel arrangements and road prototypes.  The success of the CNJ version, evidenced by it's many reissues over the years, proves that there is a camelback market.

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K-line F3s: new Lionel fixed pilot, Kadees, and walthers diaphragms.

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Atlas Milwaukee Road Erie Builts: (before and after) remove lobster claw and install fixed pilot with coupler door and body mounted ladder steps.

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Lionel scale GLA Hoppers: (before and after)  Kadee couplers

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Video on how I installed Kadees on the GLA Hoppers.

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It's been over two weeks since I've had time to work on my VO-1000 switcher project; however, with a brutal cold snap reminding us that it's still winter here in New England, I stayed inside last evening and all day today and got back to work.

Last evening I installed the pilot brake lines & hoses and primed everything for final painting.  Today I did some final sanding and then painted the pilots, steps, handrails, couplers and hoses.  About all that's left to do is to apply one more coat of Safety Yellow to the handrails...and weathering, of course!

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Another brutally cold weekend up here in New England so I had time to weather the MTH Lehigh Valley Baldwin switcher that I recently 3RS'd.  The project is now completed.  

It was only my 2nd try at building fixed pilots.  A lot of trial & error, quite a bit of time and a little bit of frustration...but a LOT learned along the way!  Hope it gets easier (and I get better!!) with a few more under my belt.

So here we go.  LV #135 went from this...

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