What is the RDG T1 status?

So, after I checked the american steam railroad site I couldnt find any modern update on the 2100's restoration, same going for 2102. Does anyone know anything about the twos restorations and when they'll be done?

 

John

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When we ride the BM&R last fall, I asked about the 4-8-4. We were told by the employees that a fall 2018 fire up was hoped for but it depends on time (the guys working on the steam engines have other jobs on the railroad) as well as, and most importantly, Andy Muller's checkbook.

SJC posted:

"...and most importantly, Andy Muller's checkbook."

Indeed, however RBMN had lots of spending money at the moment as they took in a contract with a Ukraine coal company to import coal and there making more money then they ever had to be honest. 

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:

So, after I checked the american steam railroad site I couldnt find any modern update on the 2100's restoration, same going for 2102. Does anyone know anything about the twos restorations and when they'll be done?

Having spoken with friends directly involved in the 2102's restoration for quite sometime, the consensus is she likely won't be done for 2018. 2019 is a better ballpark figure, but there is no telling how valid that estimation is. 

As with all steam restorations: 1) Patience is a virtue 2) Money doesn't grow on trees and 3) Patience is a virtue (did I already say that? 

PennsyPride94 posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:

So, after I checked the american steam railroad site I couldnt find any modern update on the 2100's restoration, same going for 2102. Does anyone know anything about the twos restorations and when they'll be done?

Having spoken with friends directly involved in the 2102's restoration for quite sometime, the consensus is she likely won't be done for 2018. 2019 is a better ballpark figure, but there is no telling how valid that estimation is. 

As with all steam restorations: 1) Patience is a virtue 2) Money doesn't grow on trees and 3) Patience is a virtue (did I already say that? 

Thank you. I'm sorry but I'm just infatuated with these engines. I mean, they outlived there own railroad and did so many things afterwards that to have them running again is a godsend.

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:
SJC posted:

"...and most importantly, Andy Muller's checkbook."

Indeed, however RBMN had lots of spending money at the moment as they took in a contract with a Ukraine coal company to import coal and there making more money then they ever had to be honest. 

IMPORT COAL?  WHAT TYPE?

The TEXAS SPECIAL:  The REAL RED streak of the golden prairies!

RDGCO.Productions posted:
SJC posted:

"...and most importantly, Andy Muller's checkbook."

Indeed, however RBMN had lots of spending money at the moment as they took in a contract with a Ukraine coal company to import coal and there making more money then they ever had to be honest. 

Well, the increased business is good for RBMN's bottom line but it also probably means less time to work on the 2102 as I'm sure the staff's priority is to support revenue making operations over restoring 2102. So it may take a little longer now in light of the increased freight business on RBMN...

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:

So, after I checked the american steam railroad site I couldnt find any modern update on the 2100's restoration, same going for 2102. Does anyone know anything about the twos restorations and when they'll be done?

Are you aware of the WMSR 1309 saga? They have stated a few dates already where the completed engine was to be under steam and operating. All dates given so far have not been met and work is still ongoing for 1309 which originally was to be under steam in 2015. It is now 2018 and I think from what I've read 2019 is the most realistic date 1309 will operate again. So even if there was a date out there for either T1 under restoration to be completed it is generally meaningless* when discussing steam. Bottom line is each steamer under restoration "will be done when it is done".

*Exceptions are probably the Strasburg RR and the Colorado narrow gauge as they have more than one operational steamer so I'm sure those "restorations" (actually the 1472-day inspection/rebuild) are budgeted/planned for to minimize the length of a time an engine is down for the 1472.

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:

Thank you. I'm sorry but I'm just infatuated with these engines. I mean, they outlived there own railroad and did so many things afterwards that to have them running again is a godsend.

Other than Union Pacific's 844 (which was never taken off the active roster) every other steam engine out there has outlived their owner. Consider the fact engines like SP 4449, NKP 765, Strasburg 90, etc. have already spent more years in excursion service than they did working in revenue service for their original owners. I get you love the Reading T1's but they are hardly alone in having 'outlived' their railroad.

Dominic Mazoch posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:
SJC posted:

"...and most importantly, Andy Muller's checkbook."

Indeed, however RBMN had lots of spending money at the moment as they took in a contract with a Ukraine coal company to import coal and there making more money then they ever had to be honest. 

IMPORT COAL?  WHAT TYPE?

Blue coal, anchercite. There importing it to the NS interchange who is taking it to Philadelphia who then exports it to Ukraine. This is why RBMN is the true modern anchercite Road.

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

645 posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:
SJC posted:

"...and most importantly, Andy Muller's checkbook."

Indeed, however RBMN had lots of spending money at the moment as they took in a contract with a Ukraine coal company to import coal and there making more money then they ever had to be honest. 

Well, the increased business is good for RBMN's bottom line but it also probably means less time to work on the 2102 as I'm sure the staff's priority is to support revenue making operations over restoring 2102. So it may take a little longer now in light of the increased freight business on RBMN...

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:

So, after I checked the american steam railroad site I couldnt find any modern update on the 2100's restoration, same going for 2102. Does anyone know anything about the twos restorations and when they'll be done?

Are you aware of the WMSR 1309 saga? They have stated a few dates already where the completed engine was to be under steam and operating. All dates given so far have not been met and work is still ongoing for 1309 which originally was to be under steam in 2015. It is now 2018 and I think from what I've read 2019 is the most realistic date 1309 will operate again. So even if there was a date out there for either T1 under restoration to be completed it is generally meaningless* when discussing steam. Bottom line is each steamer under restoration "will be done when it is done".

*Exceptions are probably the Strasburg RR and the Colorado narrow gauge as they have more than one operational steamer so I'm sure those "restorations" (actually the 1472-day inspection/rebuild) are budgeted/planned for to minimize the length of a time an engine is down for the 1472.

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:

Thank you. I'm sorry but I'm just infatuated with these engines. I mean, they outlived there own railroad and did so many things afterwards that to have them running again is a godsend.

Other than Union Pacific's 844 (which was never taken off the active roster) every other steam engine out there has outlived their owner. Consider the fact engines like SP 4449, NKP 765, Strasburg 90, etc. have already spent more years in excursion service than they did working in revenue service for their original owners. I get you love the Reading T1's but they are hardly alone in having 'outlived' their railroad.

Yeah,  I get that. Also remember BR&W 60, and many other railroad locomotives. Heck, 90 is over a century old and still running! But yes, the T1s aren't the only steamers who outlived there owners, however you must remember how difficult parts to get for them are since they where homebuilt from Baldwin consultations, Baldwin did help the RDG with the construction but the parts, rebuilds, and everything else was done in Reading.

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you aware of the WMSR 1309 saga? They have stated a few dates already where the completed engine was to be under steam and operating. All dates given so far have not been met and work is still ongoing for 1309 which originally was to be under steam in 2015. It is now 2018 and I think from what I've read 2019 is the most realistic date 1309 will operate again. So even if there was a date out there for either T1 under restoration to be completed it is generally meaningless* when discussing steam. Bottom line is each steamer under restoration "will be done when it is done".

*Exceptions are probably the Strasburg RR and the Colorado narrow gauge as they have more than one operational steamer so I'm sure those "restorations" (actually the 1472-day inspection/rebuild) are budgeted/planned for to minimize the length of a time an engine is down for the 1472.

RDGCO.Productions posted:

Thank you. I'm sorry but I'm just infatuated with these engines. I mean, they outlived there own railroad and did so many things afterwards that to have them running again is a godsend.

Other than Union Pacific's 844 (which was never taken off the active roster) every other steam engine out there has outlived their owner. Consider the fact engines like SP 4449, NKP 765, Strasburg 90, etc. have already spent more years in excursion service than they did working in revenue service for their original owners. I get you love the Reading T1's but they are hardly alone in having 'outlived' their railroad.

Well, you must also remember the people in Cumberland only worked on a single framed locomotive, a dual framed or "articulated" with four sets of drivers is going to take much longer.

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:
 

Well, you must also remember the people in Cumberland only worked on a single framed locomotive, a dual framed or "articulated" with four sets of drivers is going to take much longer.

What steam locomotive has "four sets of drivers"?

 

Hot Water posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:
 

Well, you must also remember the people in Cumberland only worked on a single framed locomotive, a dual framed or "articulated" with four sets of drivers is going to take much longer.

What steam locomotive has "four sets of drivers"?

 

Oh, well a conventional steam engine has two sets of drivers, as it has one on each side. A artiticualted engine has four, and a triplex has six. In the idea of a climax or shay, there a whole nother ballpark for classification.

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:
Hot Water posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:
 

Well, you must also remember the people in Cumberland only worked on a single framed locomotive, a dual framed or "articulated" with four sets of drivers is going to take much longer.

What steam locomotive has "four sets of drivers"?

 

Oh, well a conventional steam engine has two sets of drivers, as it has one on each side.

Well no, as you are using the incorrect technical terminology. A "conventional", i.e. non-articulated locomotive, has pairs of drive wheels and NOT "sets of drivers". Since a "pair" of drive wheels are mounted on the same axle, that assembly is thus referred to as a "pair of drivers", or even more correctly a "wheel & axle set".

A artiticualted engine has four, and a triplex has six. In the idea of a climax or shay, there a whole nother ballpark for classification.

Just a suggestion; I believe you need to do a LOT more reading about steam locomotives.

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:
Dominic Mazoch posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:
SJC posted:

"...and most importantly, Andy Muller's checkbook."

Indeed, however RBMN had lots of spending money at the moment as they took in a contract with a Ukraine coal company to import coal and there making more money then they ever had to be honest. 

IMPORT COAL?  WHAT TYPE?

Blue coal, anchercite. There importing it to the NS interchange who is taking it to Philadelphia who then exports it to Ukraine. This is why RBMN is the true modern anchercite Road.

Blue coal, anchercite?  It's ANTHRACITE COAL, get it right.

Stay frosty my friends,

laz57

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Although I had to cancel my trip behind #425 last fall due to illness/weather, I hope to correct that this year.
The attached document was recently released by Reading & Northern, a similar report on freight traffic is also available on R&N's website.

R&N's website also offers access to the employee magazine, either by PDF or mail subscription. I would think any major announcement on the 2102 would be on the website.

 

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645 posted:
...Consider the fact engines like SP 4449, NKP 765, Strasburg 90, etc. have already spent more years in excursion service than they did working in revenue service for their original owners...

In the 765’s case, the Fort Wayne RR Historical Society can make a very unique claim. FWRHS has OWNED the 765 much longer than the NKP did!

I don’t think any other main line steam operation can make that claim.

Hot Water posted:
 

Just a suggestion; I believe you need to do a LOT more reading about steam locomotives.

 

I've been collecting photos of pre-Civil War engines and would like to learn more about them.  What book do you suggest I buy?

 

Kent in SD

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but the second mouse gets the cheese!

Strasburg 0-6-0 #31 was acquired in 1960 from the Canadian National. It was built in 1908; it has operated at Strasburg for 58 years !     It was the shop switch engine for the CN's Stratford (Ont) Locomotive shop, and was numbered 7312. But, not "main line" !

rrjjf posted:

Back in 1964 No 31 was the first steam loco I road behind at Strasburg when I was in high school.  i am fortunate to live only 75 minutes from Strasburg and get there quite often.

Joe

That's my "second favorite" engine at Strasburg. The N&W M is my favorite. 

Hope we see the 31 run again some day, it has to be close to a decade since it last ran....

Two23 posted:
Hot Water posted:
 

Just a suggestion; I believe you need to do a LOT more reading about steam locomotives.

 

I've been collecting photos of pre-Civil War engines and would like to learn more about them.  What book do you suggest I buy?

 

Kent in SD

Since I only work with much more modern steam locomotives, i.e. 1930s through the 1940s, I have no idea about books covering the 1860s era. SMD4 would be your go-to guy for 19th century steam power.

For all those talking about this he #31, strasburg will start work on the engine in the 2018 season thanks to There completion of the #89, so it may return to steam by I'd say 2020.

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

OGR Webmaster posted:
645 posted:
...Consider the fact engines like SP 4449, NKP 765, Strasburg 90, etc. have already spent more years in excursion service than they did working in revenue service for their original owners...

In the 765’s case, the Fort Wayne RR Historical Society can make a very unique claim. FWRHS has OWNED the 765 much longer than the NKP did!

I don’t think any other main line steam operation can make that claim.

Interesting fact about the 765, is that it was the last steam engine to operate on the Nickel Plate Road when it was fired and provided steam heating to a stranded passenger train that was being pulled by a PA1.

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

Also, #142 has served more to the NYS&W T&HS than it has to The Valley Railroad. 

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

RDGCO.Productions posted:

Also, #142 has served more to the NYS&W T&HS than it has to The Valley Railroad. 

You are apparently confusing the Chinese built 2-8-2 of the NYS&W, #142, with the other/different Chinese 2-8-2 on the Valley Railroad (formally of the defunct Knox & Kane RR), which has been rebuilt to look just like a New Haven RR 2-8-2. 

Hot Water posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:

Also, #142 has served more to the NYS&W T&HS than it has to The Valley Railroad. 

You are apparently confusing the Chinese built 2-8-2 of the NYS&W, #142, with the other/different Chinese 2-8-2 on the Valley Railroad (formally of the defunct Knox & Kane RR), which has been rebuilt to look just like a New Haven RR 2-8-2. 

No, he is totally correct as the Susquehanna's Chinese Mikado was originally imported for and operated by the Valley Railroad/Essex Steam train before being sold. 

Hot Water posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:

Also, #142 has served more to the NYS&W T&HS than it has to The Valley Railroad. 

You are apparently confusing the Chinese built 2-8-2 of the NYS&W, #142, with the other/different Chinese 2-8-2 on the Valley Railroad (formally of the defunct Knox & Kane RR), which has been rebuilt to look just like a New Haven RR 2-8-2. 

NYS&W #142 was built for the Valley Railroad as their #1647 in Ct. ordered with Knox and Kane railroad #1658 (Often noted as 1647M and 1658M). These locomotives were so popular that the NYS&W ordered one of their own, NYS&W #141.

The ship carrying #141 sank on its way from China and from the massive insurance payout the NYS&W bought Valley railroad #1647 from the Valley Railroad making it #142. This is why there is an SY locomotive "under the sea".

After the Knox and Kane closed and its locomotives were damaged in a fire #1658 was sold at auction to the Valley Railroad where it was restored and cosmetically changed to look more like a New Haven 2-8-2. I could give more details but the point being there is no mix up here.

The restoration of the fire damaged 2-8-2 was big news and well documented along with the sinking #141 at the time. If you are interested in reading more about the amazing restoration I suggest checking out the Valley's blog. http://theenginehouse.blogspot...-sold-to-valley.html

If I reject reality and substitute 3-Rail, how does Narrow Gauge come into all of this?
RDGCO.Productions posted:

Yeah,  I get that. Also remember BR&W 60, and many other railroad locomotives. Heck, 90 is over a century old and still running! But yes, the T1s aren't the only steamers who outlived there owners, however you must remember how difficult parts to get for them are since they where homebuilt from Baldwin consultations, Baldwin did help the RDG with the construction but the parts, rebuilds, and everything else was done in Reading.

Though yes the Reading T1's were built from Baldwin Consolidation locomotives, parts for just about any steam locomotive operating today aren't available off the shelf even if they were built in the factory at Baldwin or Lima.  Perhaps some small appliance parts might be sitting on a shelf somewhere, and certain pipe fittings and hardware can be purchased, but many other parts need to be made from scratch be it casting machining them or machining them out of a chunk of metal stock.

Even small parts have to be made.  I have an upcoming project to machine a new whistle valve for our 1897 Baldwin 4-4-0 when the bronze stock arrives.  Many years of wear and tear have worn the old valve down to where it doesn't seat quite correctly.  On a 65 ton locomotive that part is relatively simple and tiny, but we can't go to the local locomotive store to buy one.  

You mentioned you wish to learn more about locomotives.  I don't have many books that go into detail about the locomotive mechanics, but for early steam I like the book "A Locomotive Engineer's Album" written by George B. Abdill in the 1960's.  It doesn't really explain the mechanics in detail, but it does show in pictures the progression of technology from the early days to somewhat more modern power in the early 1900's.  Someone else may have some other suggestions.

 

I rode as a passenger in the #2102 back around 1990 and I remember how fantastic it was to see, and feel this magnificent Northern come to life. And I truly hope to one day again, railfan again with this badass locomotive on excursions.

It's great to see you guys keeping abreast of this project. I'm all ears!

It is possible to view updates, even if you aren't on social media:
https://www.facebook.com/ameri...ts/10155797368866855

"Great progress this morning on the 2100's fireman side sidesheet removal. Top and sides are cut. Currently working on freeing the bottom edge along the mudring rivets. Winches are in place, suspended from the temporary pipe rack. Plywood forms or templates are made for both side sheets as well now. Stay tuned for more updates later!"

SGP posted:
Hot Water posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:

Also, #142 has served more to the NYS&W T&HS than it has to The Valley Railroad. 

You are apparently confusing the Chinese built 2-8-2 of the NYS&W, #142, with the other/different Chinese 2-8-2 on the Valley Railroad (formally of the defunct Knox & Kane RR), which has been rebuilt to look just like a New Haven RR 2-8-2. 

NYS&W #142 was built for the Valley Railroad as their #1647 in Ct. ordered with Knox and Kane railroad #1658 (Often noted as 1647M and 1658M). These locomotives were so popular that the NYS&W ordered one of their own, NYS&W #141.

The ship carrying #141 sank on its way from China and from the massive insurance payout the NYS&W bought Valley railroad #1647 from the Valley Railroad making it #142. This is why there is an SY locomotive "under the sea".

After the Knox and Kane closed and its locomotives were damaged in a fire #1658 was sold at auction to the Valley Railroad where it was restored and cosmetically changed to look more like a New Haven 2-8-2. I could give more details but the point being there is no mix up here.

The restoration of the fire damaged 2-8-2 was big news and well documented along with the sinking #141 at the time. If you are interested in reading more about the amazing restoration I suggest checking out the Valley's blog. http://theenginehouse.blogspot...-sold-to-valley.html

Thank you, that is all accurate however the #142 was actually given to the NYS&W T&HS because th VRR didn't require the locomotive for there current service. When they sold it the locomotive proved to be a favorite in the shop and so they wanted another SY, which is why'd they acquired the #3025. 

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

SGP posted:
Hot Water posted:
RDGCO.Productions posted:

Also, #142 has served more to the NYS&W T&HS than it has to The Valley Railroad. 

You are apparently confusing the Chinese built 2-8-2 of the NYS&W, #142, with the other/different Chinese 2-8-2 on the Valley Railroad (formally of the defunct Knox & Kane RR), which has been rebuilt to look just like a New Haven RR 2-8-2. 

NYS&W #142 was built for the Valley Railroad as their #1647 in Ct. ordered with Knox and Kane railroad #1658 (Often noted as 1647M and 1658M). These locomotives were so popular that the NYS&W ordered one of their own, NYS&W #141.

The ship carrying #141 sank on its way from China and from the massive insurance payout the NYS&W bought Valley railroad #1647 from the Valley Railroad making it #142. This is why there is an SY locomotive "under the sea".

After the Knox and Kane closed and its locomotives were damaged in a fire #1658 was sold at auction to the Valley Railroad where it was restored and cosmetically changed to look more like a New Haven 2-8-2. I could give more details but the point being there is no mix up here.

The restoration of the fire damaged 2-8-2 was big news and well documented along with the sinking #141 at the time. If you are interested in reading more about the amazing restoration I suggest checking out the Valley's blog. http://theenginehouse.blogspot...-sold-to-valley.html

It seems I'm not the one who needs to learn more about locomotives...

#142 was originally sent to the VRR and was then given to the NYS&W T&HS after they heard There locomotive, #141, had sunk in the Indian Ocean. If you wish to learn more here's a link to there homepage. 

tnyswthsi.shuttlepod.org/page-875103?

 

 

John

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

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c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

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RDGCO.Productions posted:

It seems I'm not the one who needs to learn more about locomotives... 

OK, I was corrected, and acknowledged the same. However, what I meant in my previous post was, you need to learn more about technical details concerning steam locomotives, and NOT just their individual heritage.  

The 142 currently at Phillipsburg, NJ on the Black River owned tracks which runs for NYSWTHS’s train rides originally was at Essex, CT. Valley RR bought another Chinese 2-8-2 from the defunct Knox and Kane after the enginehouse fire. The 38 went to Everett RR. It ran at Gettysburg through 1986 I think. Sorry to hear about the delays on 2102 but R&N is a for profit freight railroad, too. I rode behind it twice at South Hamburg to Temple in spring 1988 and Emmaus to Pennsburg in Sept 1991. And with the restoration on 1309 at WMSR taking longer than expected, the only big steam in the East this year will probably be 611 if NS lets it run. And 765 wherever it goes. You’ll probably be able to ride behind 113 at Minersville this spring and 425 at Jim Thorpe on holiday weekends and out of Reading in the fall, and maybe out of Penobscot or Pittston as well. And New Hope 40 is running again, and within driving distance is also Black River 60 at Ringoes or Flemington. Someday 60 might enter Lambertville again perhaps before Trump’s first term is up.

 

Robert K posted:

The 142 currently at Phillipsburg, NJ on the Black River owned tracks which runs for NYSWTHS’s train rides originally was at Essex, CT. Valley RR bought another Chinese 2-8-2 from the defunct Knox and Kane after the enginehouse fire. The 38 went to Everett RR. It ran at Gettysburg through 1986 I think. Sorry to hear about the delays on 2102 but R&N is a for profit freight railroad, too. I rode behind it twice at South Hamburg to Temple in spring 1988 and Emmaus to Pennsburg in Sept 1991. And with the restoration on 1309 at WMSR taking longer than expected, the only big steam in the East this year will probably be 611 if NS lets it run. And 765 wherever it goes. You’ll probably be able to ride behind 113 at Minersville this spring and 425 at Jim Thorpe on holiday weekends and out of Reading in the fall, and maybe out of Penobscot or Pittston as well. And New Hope 40 is running again, and within driving distance is also Black River 60 at Ringoes or Flemington. Someday 60 might enter Lambertville again perhaps before Trump’s first term is up.

 

Indeed, all of these steam locomotives are all active. However #142 just went into the shops for its new 15 year boiler rebuild. The Bel-Del is currently building a bigger shop around Phillipsburg and will be completed by I'd say Mid-2018. The #60 is also fresh and I did see it operate at the end of 2017. I must ask, what about the #225. Why did R&N buy the 4-6-0? Was it for parts or do they plan to use it as a locomotive or just a display?

 

John

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NYS&W T&HS

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Oi! It's not Philadelphia and Reading nor Reading railroad, it's READING COMPANY!!!!! 

Seriously, get it right!

Under the sea, under the sea, under the sea, under the sea,

c'mon muchachos we have SY milkados under the sea!

 

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