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I am looking at purchasing a new camera for photographing trains with the Christmas money I get. My budget, added on to my existing money should total out around $500-600  The Canon Rebel T4i especially stands out to me. What kind of camera do you use or recommend that is high quality and within my budget?

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Originally Posted by ES44AC:

What kind of camera do you use or recommend that is high quality and within my budget?

 I use a Canon 7D, but it is about $1400 over your stated budget.  However, when I saw the end coming for roll film cameras, I bought a Canon Rebel and learned digital photography by using it and some on-line instruction.  Than I upgraded to the 7D.

 

The Rebel is a good camera, light, durable, and reasonably well-equipped, and you can surely get your money's worth.  There are a lot of lenses and accessories available from Canon for the Rebel.  Canon markets toward professionals, but also does a lot of marketing to advanced amateurs, mores than Nikon.  So there is a lot of helpful instruction on the Canons website.  I would suggest that, whatever camera you decide to purchase, read -- and try -- everything in the owner's manual.  The image software that comes with the camera is not bad.  If you like the camera and want to use it a lot, then use Adobe Lightroom.  For railroad photography you can do anything you need with that program, unless you plan on making murals or selling prints, in which case you might need Adobe Photoshop for acute adjustments and repairs.  Lightroom will get rid of birds and utility wires, make your teenage daughter's acne disappear, improve color saturation, and many other things.

 

Nikon's cameras have a sterling reputation for being able to take a licking and keep on ticking, which makes them popular with professionals, and you could not go wrong with Nikon's competitor to the Canon Rebel, if you so choose.  However, the Canon marketing is friendly to advanced amateurs, and I have found Nikon's to be aimed more toward professionals.

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I was a happy Kodachrome 64 and Kodak/FUJI print film shooter until 2007, using all Nikon manual cameras, but today I use 2 digital cameras and 1 Nikon manual loaded with Fuji Velvia slide film.
In the past 3 years, I purchased first a Canon A-1400, and then a GE X-550. While both are point and shoot digitals, the GE is more like a DSLR in that it has many more settings and features. Total cost for both: less than $300.00. I use both for train pics and vids,depending on weather, train speed, and other variables.  

My Nikon FM10 loaded with Velvia has been relegated to working steam photos only, it was used on trips to see: #611,#765, #734, and EVRR #11.

Since my other hobby is posed photography of emergency vehicles, both digitals have viewfinders.

I am satisfied with this set-up, as my income is restricted.

First off, asking what camera -I- use gets you nowhere.   Sometimes I use a 1942 Leica IIIc, sometimes I use a Chamonix 045n 4x5, sometimes I use a Nikon D800E with many  thousands of dollars worth of lenses.  

 

A better question is, "What's the best way to get what I need for $500?"  I will begin by telling you this, you have it backwards.  The MOST important thing is not the camera.  All cameras made in the past ~8 years are pretty close the same when it comes to making an image.  Foamer photography is about the LEAST demanding kind of photography you can do.  My advice is to get a capable but cheap USED camera, from ebay.  The value of digital cameras drops very fast.  Buy a new one, and you're throwing money away.  Buy a used one and you are taking advantage of that rapid decline in price.  I suggest a used Nikon D7000.  Very capable camera, a definite step up from the entry level Rebel.  These can be had for $300 on ebay, and will be cheaper after Christmas.

 

Now for the important thing, the lens.  It's the LENS, not the camera, that determines what you can photo and how well.  If you buy a new Rebel that's going to eat up all your money right there.  Buy a used Nikon D7000 and a USED Nikon  55-300mm VR for ~$150.  You've now spent at total of $450.  With the remaining money buy a USED Nikon 18-55mm VR for about $50.  Add a camera bag for $20 and you're all set!  By buying used gear, you will be able to have TWO lenses instead of one, which will double the kinds of shots you can take.  You will have lenses that cover from 18--300mm, and that's almost certainly all you're going to need for several years (unless you start getting into night photography.)  The D7000 is a better camera than the Rebels, all in all.  You will get more for money.

 

 

Kent in SD

I have a Canon 750D/T6i, a newer model with 24MP, stabilization and very good imaging, which I bought at the B&H store in NYC with a similar smaller camera for my wife at the end of September (yes, I was more than a little concerned walking out of that store with a massive bag of cameras and gear). It is orders of magnitude better than the older version of the same camera I'd started shooting with in 2007 or so
 
 
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Two23:

First off, asking what camera -I- use gets you nowhere.   Sometimes I use a 1942 Leica IIIc, sometimes I use a Chamonix 045n 4x5, sometimes I use a Nikon D800E with many  thousands of dollars worth of lenses.  

Yeah, I have a few cameras I sometimes use that are a little on the older side. I shot with a Pentax K1000 for several years before I finally embraced digital.

Then, there's these...

 

 

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Originally Posted by Two23:

First off, asking what camera -I- use gets you nowhere.   Sometimes I use a 1942 Leica IIIc, sometimes I use a Chamonix 045n 4x5, sometimes I use a Nikon D800E with many  thousands of dollars worth of lenses.  

 

A better question is, "What's the best way to get what I need for $500?"  I will begin by telling you this, you have it backwards.  The MOST important thing is not the camera.  All cameras made in the past ~8 years are pretty close the same when it comes to making an image.  Foamer photography is about the LEAST demanding kind of photography you can do.  My advice is to get a capable but cheap USED camera, from ebay.  The value of digital cameras drops very fast.  Buy a new one, and you're throwing money away.  Buy a used one and you are taking advantage of that rapid decline in price.  I suggest a used Nikon D7000.  Very capable camera, a definite step up from the entry level Rebel.  These can be had for $300 on ebay, and will be cheaper after Christmas.

 

Now for the important thing, the lens.  It's the LENS, not the camera, that determines what you can photo and how well.  If you buy a new Rebel that's going to eat up all your money right there.  Buy a used Nikon D7000 and a USED Nikon  55-300mm VR for ~$150.  You've now spent at total of $450.  With the remaining money buy a USED Nikon 18-55mm VR for about $50.  Add a camera bag for $20 and you're all set!  By buying used gear, you will be able to have TWO lenses instead of one, which will double the kinds of shots you can take.  You will have lenses that cover from 18--300mm, and that's almost certainly all you're going to need for several years (unless you start getting into night photography.)  The D7000 is a better camera than the Rebels, all in all.  You will get more for money.

 

 

Kent in SD

Kent, I have to say that is some of the best advice I have read about used digital equipment. My question is; if I go this route in the future, would the fleet of lenses I have for my current Nikon FM10 be usable on the 7000 body?
Thanks,
Warren Jenkins

I am always a little cautious about used electronic equipment, and digital cameras are big-time electronics.    So I would not recommend used off ebay.   If you want to go the used route, go to a camera store that sells used equipment.    That way you can test it and perhaps get a small warranty.   And yes you will pay a few bucks more.

 

My current camera is a Canon T5i.   When I was looking, B&H camera mentioned above had a package deal on a T3i which I found first.   Then I read a review and found out that the T3 was a 5 year old model.   I learned that they had release the T5 about 9 months previous.   I searched the B&H website and found a T5 package within my price range.   I figured the later model was better due to more pixels and stabilization.    B&H does mail-order and this is the second camera package I have bought from them.   

 

I did my reviews on a website called "DPREVIEW" which reviews all sorts of photographic equipment is very current.  You might want to visit their site and do some research.   They also give some estimated street prices.    I found the B&H deal the best if I bought a package including a second lens etc.

I primarily use an iPhone 5 for my videos. Occasionally, I will use a GoPro Hero 3 White. Neither is the cutting edge of videography in terms of quality, but both are relatively cheap compared to newer models. I'd say video quality is decent. 

 

For stills, I use the iPhone, and I used to use a Fujifilm Finepix S 2500. The 765 photo is with the Finepix, and the UP SD90MAC is a screenshot/photo taken with the Iphone while taking video. 

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I just checked B&H photo, and they have the Cannon T5i at a great price

 

put this in your search bar

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/...s_rebel_t5_dslr.html

They have several bundles with the T5i, but this one has two lenses with

image stablization, a very good feature.

Also free shipping, no taxes unless you live in New York state.

 

I personally use Nikons, namely two D7000's, but having said that,

when you get to DSLR cameras, the later ones, it's up to the person

with the camera to make good images.

You can use the "program" setting while you learn. Taking many many images

helps, one reason I love digital. Keep your back to the sun and on your subject

while you learn!

I have purchased lots of stuff from B&H, I trust them, good folks to deal with.

 

Good luck,

Ed

 

Michael,

 

Interesting that you should bring up this subject.

 

I use my cell phone camera (LG Stylo) and a Fuji Fine Pix (nothing expensive here) but have become increasingly frustrated in the quality of the videos of with both of them. Everything looks great on the device screen, but once I view it on a monitor, it's less than desired.  Taking videos of trains and planes requires zooming for long distance shots, and all I get is pixilation. 

 

So I'm finally going to look into buying a "real camera" so will be watching this thread closely as it goes on.

 

 

Originally Posted by ES44AC:

Thanks for all the advice everyone! This is very helpful in picking out the right camera. I really like both the Canon T4i and the Nikon D7000. I think I would still go ahead and buy the camera new, but I will look at used just to see if I find anything. Keep giving your opinions!

 

 

Just since this time last year I have purchased about $8,000 worth of used camera gear, mostly from ebay.  Going back the past 15 years I have no idea how much I've bought & sold, mostly on ebay.  Never once have I had a problem.  Sellers know that if you are unhappy you will give negative feedback, and that absolutely kills them.  I did have someone list a 105mm macro lens as something it wasn't, and when I contacted them they not only took it back immediately, they gave it free return shipping if I'd give them positive feedback.  I have zero qualms about buying something from ebay from a person that has an excellent feedback history.  You can save major money going this way.  A great source for refurb Nikons is Cameta Cameras.  I have bought three refurbs from them over the years and they were absolutely perfect.  They might sell refurb D7000, but honestly how can you possibly go wrong buying a lightly used D7000 for $300?  It's a no-brainer.  Saving the money on the camera is going to let you get a second lens, and that's an absolutely major plus for photography.  The $450 deal on the Rebel + two lenses sounds OK, although I still prefer the Nikon/Sony sensors.  Those make more of a difference for night and low light shooting though.  There are a lot of features on a D7000 that are aimed at the "advanced amateur"  that you might not use though, such as flash sync 1/250s and the ability to use a wider variety of lenses.  My main gripe with a new camera is they lose about half their value in the first year or so.  I'd rather make someone ELSE take that hit, LOL.

 

 

Kent in SD

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