I haven't seen one of these posts in a while so I will start one and see how it goes....
What loco(s) would you really like to see made in the future?
I would like to see a scale SD40-2 made by Atlas.
Thanks!
Don
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(OOPs 3 Rail) N&W S1a
Gilly
Sorry for posting in the wrong forum.
Gilly,
PSC made the N&W 0-8-0 quite a few years ago and they become available from time to time.
Ed
Alco C636. I would take two, one in Alco demo colors and one in SP&S.
Well here we go again, still looking for a Rdg N1, and a WM k2.
The last time that I saw a PSC N&W 0-8-0 was on Ebay for $850. It did not sell so I bought it. They do not bring much and are hard to sell. Stephen
I would really like to see:
In 3 rail, Canadian National 2-6-0 Mogul in Legacy.
Why are you asking for 3-rail fantasy locos on a 2-rail forum? If you want 3-rail start your own thread like the moderator suggest on the 3-rail forum!
Stephen
I'm with Winston on his picks except for the UP F units. Already have the RS5 ABBA. Can't see how they could be much better.
The triplex would be awesome.
I'm with Winston on his picks except for the UP F units. Already have the RS5 ABBA. Can't see how they could be much better.
The triplex would be awesome.
Scale wheels, couplers, drives and track would be a start, it is the 21st century now.
I'm not into 3-rail at all, but that said, it someone made a good replica of SRR 630, I'd be awfully tempted to buy one.
That was the first engine I ever got a cab ride on, and my parents saw it running regularly in their home town in the 50s and 60s at ET&WNC 207:
I'll be pleased they release an Alco S-1 or S-2
Sunset did the light USRA 2-10-2 about 35+/- years ago.
Ed
Reading K-1 2-10-2.
(photo from "Modeling the Reading Company in P48" web site)
If we get sufficient interest, perhaps 3rd rail will do one of their limited runs.
Don,
Thank you for starting this subject.
I model modern CSX. I also think an SD40-2 would be nice in the CSX YN3B lettering/color scheme.
I'd even more like to see a GP40-2 in this same scheme.
Thanks,
Al Hummel
I'd be all over this:
Of course I think Seaboard only had 3 streamlined Pacifics, but hey that's what I want!
A 3 truck Shay or an updated 4-4-2 Hiawatha (Vision Line would be interesting)
The Milwaukee Road Hiawatha; with whistle steam, of course!
The last time that I saw a PSC N&W 0-8-0 was on Ebay for $850. It did not sell so I bought it. They do not bring much and are hard to sell. Stephen
Gilly,
PSC made the N&W 0-8-0 quite a few years ago and they become available from time to time.
Ed
Guys,
Thanks for the lead. I didn't know about this locomotive. If for only the tender, it will be worth a look on eBay.
Gilly
I'll see your Reading K-1 2-10-2 and raise you a Reading N-1 2-8-8-2, rebuilt as a simple 2-8-8-0. Same boiler. Lots pf plumbing on rebuilt locomotives
Baldwin 3-cylinder compound 4-10-2 No. 60000 in The Franklin Institute, Philadelphia
No. 17, the YORK, rolled out of [David] Kloke Locomotive Works, Elgin, IL, in May, 2013. The Reader Railroad in Arkansas built wooden passenger cars for her that summer. They run on the historic Northern Central Railway between New Freedom and Hanover Junction south of York, PA, under the auspices of Steam into History
A life-size Lionel GENERAL set
Atlantic City Railroad No. 1027 pulled the fastest regularly scheduled passenger trains in the world in the 1890's. She would be the first Vauclain compound in 3-rail "0" Gauge. The Pennsylvania Railroad built 3 similar Camelback Atlantics to compete with her. Designated "E-1," they culminated in the renowned E-6 Atlantics. The sole survivor, No. 460, is "The Lindbergh Engine" in The Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania at Strasburg
East African Railways Beyer-Garratt Class 59
I'll see your Reading K-1 2-10-2 and raise you a Reading N-1 2-8-8-2
OK; I particularly like the K-1 and it was (IMO) a proper use for the mediocre N-1's boiler. As I recall, the K-1 was the biggest and baddest of all the 2-10-2 hogs.
Otherwise, the Beyer-Garret is just one butt-ugly loco. How could anyone want one, unless they were Brits or So.Africans. Oh, yeah: opinion.
An SD40-2 would be at the top of my list, with the GP40-2 being second, and the early 90's SD70 series (70m, 75m, 70mac). GE B36 would be nice too!
I would like to see Atlas do the SD40-2 but I don't think the current vertical motor truck design would allow the trucks to be placed closer to the pilots without the motor shield interfering with the front of the cab. I recently experimented with trying to modify the frame on a Weaver SD40-2 to move the trucks to a more prototypical location or similar to the truck placement on my Overland SD40-2, but it couldn't be done with the current vertical truck design.
Atlas would have to use a horizontal motor drive or redesign their vertical motor truck to place them in a more accurate position under the frame, which would then allow use of scale fuel tanks.
The SD40-2 and GP20 are two designs with unique long front porches that would require horizontal drives or newly designed truck blocks if using a vertical motor setup to produce more accurate and better looking models than what's currently available.
I'd like to suggest the ML 4000 diesel hydraulic, the cab version from 1961; four paint schemes are possible:
a) DRGW
b) SP
c) DRGW patched as SP
d) "SP"/ KM Semmering test unit
Considering some of the locos that have been produced by MTH, I'm surprised they haven't done this one. It could be offered as a dummy unit as well as powered.
Given the number of SSPF's around, you'd think it would sell well.....
Just a thought. SZ
Gilly,
Allegheny Scale Models has one of the PSC N&W 0-8-0's for sale. Check their website.
Ed
I'll see your Reading K-1 2-10-2 and raise you a Reading N-1 2-8-8-2
OK; I particularly like the K-1 and it was (IMO) a proper use for the mediocre N-1's boiler. As I recall, the K-1 was the biggest and baddest of all the 2-10-2 hogs.
Rex and ReadingFan,
Glad to see Reading Steam getting some love.
The K1 or an N1 would be nice, but don't forget that we could really use an I10 or an M1.
Reading K1 2-10-2
Reading N1 2-8-8-0
Reading I10 2-8-0
Reading M1 2-8-2
We could also use a nice Baldwin Baby faced freight unit for the CNJ side of life.
FP45/F45
21's century detailed RS2/3
S2
PRR G5 4-6-0
RDC's set up for MU service with diaphragm ends.
That's all.
Yep, SD40-2 would be my first choice as well. Saw so many of these on so many railroads. Sort of like the F-unit of it's time. It would be nice to see road-specific details such as a/c units, antennas and such.
Frisco 1522.
Jeff C
I'm not into 3-rail at all, but that said, it someone made a good replica of SRR 630, I'd be awfully tempted to buy one.
That was the first engine I ever got a cab ride on, and my parents saw it running regularly in their home town in the 50s and 60s at ET&WNC 207:
WOW!!I rember whatching the news story by wbtv with my family.One time my grandmother called me to see this.She told me"I thought you want to see this."I told her she was right.I sometimes forget the etnc had narrow gauge and standard gauge.Thanks for posting this good memoies.
I'd be all over this:
Of course I think Seaboard only had 3 streamlined Pacifics, but hey that's what I want!
They do look pretty nice and look like they could move fast.I have a mil streamlined hudson I think its the fastest steamer I have.Just think how the pacifics would look with high speed driverods.How many cars they pulled?
I would like to see in railking abba or aba sal ft units.Or southern sd40-2 highhood with the right sounding horn.
Anything without a Bellpaire firebox!!!!!!!!!!! How about some non-Pennsy steam locomotives by Brooks, Lima, ALCO, Porter and Stevenson.
I am reasonably sure that the those have built elevated railways would love to have a steamer like those that ran on the New York City Els.
And oh by the way, I would love to have this:
Anything not with a china drive or built by mth toy 2-rail. Stephen
And for SPF's a wish list would include:
PRR/LI 4-6-0 (different tenders): No scale dimensioned G5's have been offered despite attempts by Max Gray, Weaver, Sunset and MTH. (Discounting the crude by today's standards Saginaw)
PRR I1s, I1sa 2-10-0: No one has offered an I1s (123 of them without the huge feed water heater on the left side). I can think of at least 5 quite different I1/I1s post-war prototype "looks" that could be produced in brass on the same boiler/chassis by varying front end/boiler details tenders.
PRR H8sc, H9s, H10s 2-8-0: - Key beautifully did these in limited numbers 25 years ago. If an H10s is to be offered please do it without a Lines West tender - they were generally gone in postwar era.
PRR D16sb 4-4-0: Hasn't been done since Max Gray imported a few 50 years ago (perhaps the rarest PRR brass model)
PRR N2s/ USRA heavy 2-10-2: PRR’s 130 N2sa’s were rebuilt with Belpaire fireboxs. A production run could share the mechanism and tender with standard USRA boiler versions lettered for Erie, CB&Q, C&S, and B&LE
Ed Rappe
I will sign up and send $$$ for a C&S 2-10-2.
ChipR
Alco S series switchers.
A tribute PRR T1 #5550 that can be used to raise funds for the T1 trust.
NY El Forneys
A standard gauge version of Bachman's ON30 Whitcomb switcher
Al O
Ed,
You got them all,pretty much. I would add a T1 to the mix. How about the 6111,as built in all it's splendor. It seems that the 6100 is the only streamlined model that was made.
Norm
Folks,
Steam: I would love to see a Denver&Rio Grande Western L-77 2-6-6-0 beein produced in the near future. This really would make my day!
And some smaller steam such as a D&RGW C-48 or one of the last standard gauge D&RGW engines, such as 4-6-0 No. 784.
Diesel: A Alco S-2 would be awesome. Atlas folks: you already have it in smaller scale. Just give us a O-scale 2-Rail model of the S-2, and please please please: A Rio Grande version of it, though...
Cheers, Tom
Correct RS1,2,3 would be great, but I don't see them coming from Division Point as the site has not seen any progress for that to happen. Erik has them on his future list and will have his stealth drive.
Stephen
Tom "Katercat" - - Both the Rio Grande C48 2-8-0 and the D&SL/D&RGW 2-6-6-0 were imported by Pacific Fast Mail in the early '70's. They show up very occaisionly on ebay. Hopefully a bit of good news!
I'm with Chip R........oh please, please, someone, a Colorado & Southern 2-10-2 (#900, 902, or 903) with auxililiary tender! Toss in Texas & Pacific/Chicago Great Western 2-10-4, Canadian National 2-6-0, Central Vermont 2-10-4.
Now, returning to the "real world", I am very appreciative of Sunset 3rd Rail proposing the Burlington O1a 2-8-2. Have 2 reservations in.
mark s - Max Gray imported a T&P 2-10-4 in the 1960's. I saw one for sale at the recent Chicago show - don't recall the price.
Ed Rappe
Thanks Ed! Saw it there, too. Alas, the Max Gray early imports are pretty crude by today's standards. Like you were noting above. I'm with you on a contemporary PRR D16!
Everything posted is fine but...a locomotive is only as good as its guts and mtors
Contemporary railroads now use even the big 6-axle locos on branch lines AND switching so my big want would be:
NOTHING PRODUCED O SCALE 2 RAIL WITHOUT HORIZONTAL DRIVE SYSTEM AND/OR GEARING SO IT CAN OPERATE PROTOTYPICAL AT A SWITCHING CRAWL AS WELL AS ON THE MAINLINE RUNNING.
Atlas prides itself as The Future of O Scale; the future of O scale is to have mechanisms that operate as smoothly and perfectly as my HO and N (!!!). Vertical drives, jerky acceleration/deceleration and poor slow speed capability is not the future of O scale. Because of this, my entry into O scale 2 rail branch/switching is becoming extremely touch-and-go having to cherry pick from a very limited roster of older models.
I too think an SD40-2 would be a great engine to build but like mentioned maybe problems putting the super over a China drive. Atlas already did the SD40 and think it would be an easier change over but I am not building them. Lionel adn MTH don't do the superstructures well enough and from what I have seen they sit too high on the trucks. Just be nice if Atlas worked on releasing a engine model once a year, period. Still waiting for the dash 8 40CW. since in the catalog in 2010.
Everything posted is fine but...a locomotive is only as good as its guts and mtors
Contemporary railroads now use even the big 6-axle locos on branch lines AND switching so my big want would be:
NOTHING PRODUCED O SCALE 2 RAIL WITHOUT HORIZONTAL DRIVE SYSTEM AND/OR GEARING SO IT CAN OPERATE PROTOTYPICAL AT A SWITCHING CRAWL AS WELL AS ON THE MAINLINE RUNNING.
Atlas prides itself as The Future of O Scale; the future of O scale is to have mechanisms that operate as smoothly and perfectly as my HO and N (!!!). Vertical drives, jerky acceleration/deceleration and poor slow speed capability is not the future of O scale. Because of this, my entry into O scale 2 rail branch/switching is becoming extremely touch-and-go having to cherry pick from a very limited roster of older models.
I agree with your post 100%!! This concept as well as buying immediately when something is released or taking the chance you'll never get it,is discouraging coming from HO,where the market is more friendly. But this is O scale & these are some of the ugly trade offs. The market is much smaller than HO & N & growing smaller with increases in prices all the time & modelers restricted to apartments rather than houses with ample room. I face this challenge every day in my decision-"O or HO"-that is the question!
It's a balance of the trade offs,(differences),in the 2 scales that we have to decide if we can live with when the "dust" settles. The Verticle motors as the gentlemen here explained to me,comes from Lionel & followed with other companies, to accommodate the sharp curve demands of 3 rail diesels. So,since 3 rail is the leader in O scale sales as most modelers are 3railers,this can't be expected to change.
I know EXACTLY what you're saying & where you're coming from. The lack of modern couplers is something I as well as other modern modelers desire,but with most modelers in steam in O scale,that's not likely to be seen either.It's a "build your own," scale as many can tell you,or put up with what's out there.
I came to O without doing my homework 1st,expecting to have everything in O scale I had in HO & maybe more because of the increase in size-not so. A painful reality as O scale has SO MUCH MORE to offer because of the size not found in other scales.
Just my 2 cents.
Al Hummel
Reading K1 2-10-2
Reading I10 2-8-0
The Reading Consol above has a 2nd tender. Was it in stationary boiler service or did the Reading occaisionly use auxiliary water cars?
Something small gentlemen. A small 2-6-0, 2-6-2, fixed pilot SW1, GE 70 ton, 65 ton, Ma & Pa 2-8-0 or a CF7.
I want a plain Jane….. NYC Hudson lettered for New York Central,Plain black and spoke driver wheels with standard tender close coupled to locomotive………2/3 rail would be nice.
Clem
Gilly,
Allegheny Scale Models has one of the PSC N&W 0-8-0's for sale. Check their website.
Ed
Thank you kindly for the lead.
Gilly
jd-train said:
I have a Weaver G1 and SGL G3 to pull passenger trains,
I have a G#, but no authentic passenger cars. What do you use?
That said, Rex, if you can get Scot to have 3rd Rail build the K1, I'm in for a 3R version!!!
Well, that would be two of us. Scott made the B&O P7d in a run of 50, which is, I suppose, a minimum number. So all we need is 48 more guys
I'm thinking if one wants an I-10, one could start with a cannibalized 2-8-0 chassis and build up the superstructure from scratch. I have a friend whose hankering for a B&O E-27 2-8-0 led him down that very garden path (well, he also scratchbuilt the frame.). The entire superstructure is fabricated from PVC pipe and ABS/styrene, plus brass jewelry and piping. It can be done. Depends on the degree of lust
Rex,
I still need a set of heavyweights to use with the G1.
The G3 model is a model imported by SGL. SGL Lines was a company that was formed by an enthusiast of the Reading who only imported a brass G3 and matching brass passenger cars. The sets are from 2002/3.
The SGL G3 was offered in both 2R and 3R and I've seen two different numbered engines come up for sale on eBay.
There were two different sets of passengers cars (both in 2R and 3R) offered: The Schuylkill and King Coal sets. Both sets are 5 car sets with different numbers and interiors for each set. There were also two car sets to match each 5 car set. The sets occasionally come up for sale on eBay, usually at a great price, considering these are brass.
I have the Schuylkill 5 car set. Still looking for the matching 2 car set at a good price.
Jim
Well, an MP36 to pull all those Bombardier cars would be nice
SGL Lines imported models of the first and last G3 Pacifics (210 and 219) and two sets of 2000-series semistreamlined ("blimp") cars. Seats with blue upholstery represented the KING COAL (Philly-Shamokin) and the WALL STREET (Philly-Jersey City Terminal, with ferry connection to Manhattan); red upholstery, the SCHUYLKILL (Philly-Pottsville).
Late in the steam era, the Reading used small tenders from retired steamers as auxiliary water cars ("jugs"). The late George Hart used a Taylor tender from a Camelback as a "jug" for Reading Shop Switcher 0-6-0 1251 on excusions onb the Ma & Pa. No. 1251 is now displayed in The Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania at Strasburg. The Reading & Northern uses that "jug" for "The Four-and-a-Quarter" (425). Her original "jug" was a Pennsy tender. The Reading tender is slightly smaller and fits on the Jersey Central turntable at Jim Thorpe with 425. The Pennsy "jug" had to be turned separately.
This is the Pennsy tender. The coal compartment is intact.
How about a DELAWARE & HUDSON 4-6-6-4 CHALLENGER. D&H had 40 of them. And make it a true D & H model not some UP unit with D & H painted on it.
Only Union Pacific (105) and Northern Pacific (47) had more.
I would love to see more modern and old electric locomotives. Keep building the steamers because we dont want to forget the past just stop buildind f3, f7 that are being built and too many of.
Krauss-Maffei, I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I would love to see Western Maryland's 4-8-4 J1 Potomac and I2 Decapod.
Some folks in the ugly loco thread posted this one. But if some manufacturer made it Imwould buy it in a heartbeat. Never saw or heard of one but I love it LOL
Lionel Legacy PRR E-44 electric---grew up in northeast Philly---saw them on all the Pennsy lines right through the Conrail era
Thx
Joe S
SGL Lines imported models of the first and last G3 Pacifics (210 and 219) and two sets of 2000-series semistreamlined ("blimp") cars. Seats with blue upholstery represented the KING COAL (Philly-Shamokin) and the WALL STREET (Philly-Jersey City Terminal, with ferry connection to Manhattan); red upholstery, the SCHUYLKILL (Philly-Pottsville).
Late in the steam era, the Reading used small tenders from retired steamers as auxiliary water cars ("jugs"). The late George Hart used a Taylor tender from a Camelback as a "jug" for Reading Shop Switcher 0-6-0 1251 on excusions onb the Ma & Pa. No. 1251 is now displayed in The Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania at Strasburg. The Reading & Northern uses that "jug" for "The Four-and-a-Quarter" (425). Her original "jug" was a Pennsy tender. The Reading tender is slightly smaller and fits on the Jersey Central turntable at Jim Thorpe with 425. The Pennsy "jug" had to be turned separately.
This is the Pennsy tender. The coal compartment is intact.
In the 1st picture,is a modern switchstand that would add a lot to O scale in modern times,but would also be fantastic offered with counterweights of different shapes,found all across the USA,in the eastern half of the US especially. These switchstands with the counterweights,were used over a much longer period of time,starting in the steam era,right into the early 90s,when "Backsafer,Bow handles" were substituted in place of the low counterweight handles,to give greater leverage for a crewman & also providing less strain to a crewman's back,not having to bend so far down towards the ground.
Al Hummel
Yes. Odd absence of this engine not being imported again given the ubiquitous nature and long life span, yet also being fairly desirable. I would however prefer an early D16b version suitable for the CVRR, but if taking an sb gets them made, I'd still be willing to buy at least 1.
Western Maryland railway: class K2 pacific,
H7 and H8 consolidations.
I think the possible sales demand for this engine is underestimated. It's not just a Santa Fe passenger engine. More importantly it is the first transcontinental diesel passenger engine. If any manufacturer was to undertake the project they should also include the related boxcabs like the EMC demos, and the B&O #50.
I've posted this before on the 3 rail forums and there is always some demand.
I'm aware the the colors used in this print are disputed. Perhaps Division Point had it correct with their HO model.
"Reading Fan" - Thank you for the info on the Reading's use of auxiliary water cars. I am going to presume this was primarily prompted by removal of water facilities, as opposed to the IC and N&W use of auxiliary water cars for enhanced locomotive performance. And more remarkable, one of the "jugs" is extant!
Ryan/Rshawyer36 - Some good news! The Western Maryland Potomac 4-8-4 was done by Car & Locomotive Shop some 10 years ago. If memory serves, the WM Decapod was done by Overland, maybe 15 years ago. They did the burly WM Consolidation at that time, too. C&LS also did the WM 4-6-6-4. All show up at O Scale shows and ebay periodically.
Central Vermont 2-8-0's piggybacked on a run of CN 2-8-0's please. I would find a way to buy 3 or 4.
Jim
I'd like to see a "modern" 4-4-0...one with the appliances, pilot and appearance of a 1920-1930 era locomotive. Both C&IM and Katy used them up to the '50s and the end of their passenger service. Thomas made one way back in the 1950's that was close, but still kept the huge cowcatcher (sorry, pilot). They're hard to find, though and pricey.
Logan Matthews - Absolutely! There was an article on scratch building a Katy "modern" 4-4-0 in Feb/March 1957 Model Railroader, and that loco has been a favorite of mine, at least, for years! And what a herald the Missouri-Kansas-Texas had!
If you want a O Scale SD40-2, this version must have railroad specific options or details for both USA and Canadian railroads.
Without dynamic brakes and with dynamic brakes.
The Canadian National SD40-2 locomotives had cabins and other details that made them distinct from other railroad's SD40-2s.
Andrew
There must also be the injection mold option for the SD38-2 and SD39-2 when the SD40-2 is produced by ATLAS O or even MTH. Get more railroad specific models produced.
Andrew
I would seriously doubt that Atlas can do an SD40-2 (or 38-2 or 39-2) beacuse they are married to the China drive which will not fit under the frame.
I haven't said much for a while about my desired loco. It would be the Milwaukee SDL-39. Simple, sweet and the mfg could sell one to every Milwaukee modeller
I haven't said much for a while about my desired loco. It would be the Milwaukee SDL-39. Simple, sweet and the mfg could sell one to every Milwaukee modeller
How many would those be?
Something small gentlemen. A small 2-6-0, 2-6-2, fixed pilot SW1, GE 70 ton, 65 ton, Ma & Pa 2-8-0 or a CF7.
I like the way Tom thinks...these selections would work nicely for my shortline and switching Ma and Pa/Yorkrail, Stewartstown RR, MDDE addiction
I would seriously doubt that Atlas can do an SD40-2 (or 38-2 or 39-2) beacuse they are married to the China drive which will not fit under the frame.
SD40x is a rail industry standard.
"Can't do the vertical China drive", "can't do the horizontal drive"...come on, this is the 21st century. Oh yea that's right...this is O scale. Nevermind...
I still think Sierra #3 would be a good candidate:
She's well known and because of her movie career she could be legitimately lettered for almost any railroad.
Rusty
I would seriously doubt that Atlas can do an SD40-2 (or 38-2 or 39-2) beacuse they are married to the China drive which will not fit under the frame.
Atlas told me about a year ago,they want to do the GP40,but with the mess up in their China factories it's doubt full we'll see that.
MTH did the gP38-2 wish they'd do more of them in their Premier line.
Al Hummel
Spiderman F40ph
rat
I would even take the SDL39s undec and paint them myself if I could a couple.
Dick
How about Pennsylvania RR Electrics E-2b and E-3c
How about Pennsylvania RR Electrics E-2b and E-3c
Sunset/3rd Rail is considering offering the E2b.
Pennsy, E3sd Atlantic
These are all 2-rail brass: How about the PRR T-1 in the versions Key gave us when I was in HO scale. How abut an updated B&O EM-1. An updated UP C-855 a-b-a set. The C&O T-1. Santa Fe 5001 class 2-10-4!! ( PSC promised in 2012 but never delivered ). Santa Fe 5011 class 2-10-4. NP/SP&S Z-6. GE U-28,30,33 AND 36 both ''B'' and ''C''. Updated PRR Q-2.
I haven't said much for a while about my desired loco. It would be the Milwaukee SDL-39. Simple, sweet and the mfg could sell one to every Milwaukee modeller
How many would those be?
If EMD can make them why not Atlas? That was a joke but it had some truth in it.
How about Pennsylvania RR Electrics E-2b and E-3c
Sunset/3rd Rail is considering offering the E2b.
IIRC they were announced (or perhaps you or Scott mentioned them in a thread on here once)... but it seems rezzys are light so they must be lower down on the priority list.
I'd love to se G5's or I1's in PRR but the L1s seem to be slow sellers.
I haven't said much for a while about my desired loco. It would be the Milwaukee SDL-39. Simple, sweet and the mfg could sell one to every Milwaukee modeller
How many would those be?
If EMD can make them why not Atlas? That was a joke but it had some truth in it.
No, not really any "truth in it". EMD would make pretty much anything a customer wanted, and that they were willing to pay for, in any quantity they wanted. Whereas Atlas, or any other model manufacturer/importer, must produce a MINIMUM QUANTITY in order to recover the tooling costs for specialized products.
nikkormat,
There is a Sunset NP Z-6 in new condition with DCC/Sound on the Allegheny Scale Models site.
Sunset also imported the PRR T-1 in several versions. Same for the B&O EM-1.
Thought you would like to know.
Ed
I haven't said much for a while about my desired loco. It would be the Milwaukee SDL-39. Simple, sweet and the mfg could sell one to every Milwaukee modeller
How many would those be?
If EMD can make them why not Atlas? That was a joke but it had some truth in it.
No, not really any "truth in it". EMD would make pretty much anything a customer wanted, and that they were willing to pay for, in any quantity they wanted. Whereas Atlas, or any other model manufacturer/importer, must produce a MINIMUM QUANTITY in order to recover the tooling costs for specialized products.
Lighten up oldhead, no need to turn every joking comment into something nasty.
Both EMD and Atlas (or any manufacturer) are in business to make money... We got that.
I haven't said much for a while about my desired loco. It would be the Milwaukee SDL-39. Simple, sweet and the mfg could sell one to every Milwaukee modeller
How many would those be?
If EMD can make them why not Atlas? That was a joke but it had some truth in it.
No, not really any "truth in it". EMD would make pretty much anything a customer wanted, and that they were willing to pay for, in any quantity they wanted. Whereas Atlas, or any other model manufacturer/importer, must produce a MINIMUM QUANTITY in order to recover the tooling costs for specialized products.
Lighten up oldhead, no need to turn every joking comment into something nasty.
Both EMD and Atlas (or any manufacturer) are in business to make money... We got that.
Sorry if I upset you with reality. Trying to compare model train manufacturing to either EMD, Alco, or GE is pretty ridiculous, don't you think?
Strasburg RR #90
Cotton Belt #819. Alco PA's in Warbonnet. 2 rail please.
Pennsy, E3sd Atlantic
Intrigued!
How about an E1 and and E2 to go with it?
Sunset/3rd Rail is considering offering the E2b.
Bob, who is the Sunset Rep hereabouts, has been circulating an interest sheet for those interested in the E2b. (Though some clowns thought it funny to write fictional names on it).
If you have an interest in that engine, get your name on that sheet and maybe you'll get the engine built.
Alco PA's were done in Warbonnet by Key 4-5 years ago.
Doesn't anyone keep up with the offerings of the importers?
Ed
Alco PA's were done in Warbonnet by Key 4-5 years ago.
Doesn't anyone keep up with the offerings of the importers?
Ed
Sorry Bob, but maybe some of us aren't that deep into obscure niche brass releases, let alone 4-5 years ago. Me...I'm re entering the brass market, (which is in the dumpers in comparison) after 20 years haven't kept up with brass releases and have a lot of catching up to do. But thanks for the Alco PA's note...sheeeze.
All the engines I want are from small roads I know will never get made just not enough interest/demand
I would just like to see my heavy mike come in....
Alco PA's were done in Warbonnet by Key 4-5 years ago.
Doesn't anyone keep up with the offerings of the importers?
Ed
Sorry Bob, but maybe some of us aren't that deep into obscure niche brass releases, let alone 4-5 years ago. Me...I'm re entering the brass market, (which is in the dumpers in comparison) after 20 years haven't kept up with brass releases and have a lot of catching up to do. But thanks for the Alco PA's note...sheeeze.
Chill Pat, my bad I should have said PA's in ABS by Atlas or 3rd Rail.Have a great evening, Scott.
I'd like to see GP38-2s&-40-2s,to.
Wish the "Big 3," would get their heads "together," instead of "butting" them,it would make O scale more attractive especially to newcomers.
Al Hummel
I keep having to check - a lot of posters are looking for MTH and Lionel here on the 2-rail forum. I think that is great - about time Lionel started again making 2-rail stuff.
I am overwhelmed with trains, but would not mind seeing a Harriman 0-6-0 in die cast with a round boiler. My favorite is the SP S-9.
I would think that most of the above wants have been done at least once in O Scale, especially all those Diesels with numbers between SD-9 and SD-45. There are probably more Warbonnet PAs in O Scale than there are NYC Hudsons.
We have abundance!
As long as the requests are prefixed with something other than PRR, SF or similar, it isn't going to happen. Doesn't anybody paint equipment anymore? And why on earth do more and more people want big power such as Big Boys? You can't run them on even reasonable size radius curves unless they are long coupled and look like toys. O scale is easy to do in a small space. You don't need an airplane hanger if your tastes run a little more reasonable. I used to run S and then Sn3. Next came On3 and then On30 for a short time before finally switching to Gn15. On30 and HO mechanisms work fine for this. I run what I like and mostly scratch build my motive power from the mechanisms stated. The biggest problem with Gn15 is the size of structures! Oh yes, I model indoors as I don't believe in leaving my work out in the weather.
I manufacture O scale items and I like detailing and painting O scale locos and rolling stock, but it just sits on the shelf. We all choose what we want to model and size, cost and availability all count. Attached is a photo of some of my 1/2" scale models.
Interesting, thats the first time l heard of an Aux. Water Tender called a JUG.
I would buy 2 each of READING
K-1 2-10-2 , or I-8 2-8-0 Camelback,
provided they are accurate enough.
Rock Island 4-8-4. Either rebuilt 5000's or WWII 5100's. What the heck, maybe both !! Some of the most handsome 4-8-4's ever built.
http://digital.denverlibrary.o...ll22/id/45487/rec/25
rshawyer36 posted:I would love to see Western Maryland's 4-8-4 J1 Potomac and I2 Decapod.
J1 has been done by Car and Locomotive shop. The I2 has been done by Overland Models.
Since we seem to reviving an old thread, I'll make a new post.
I would like to see a scale Reading K-1 or even a Reading I10sa 2-8-0.
Except for the T-1 and a limited run of Pacifics (by Weaver and SGL), there is a real lack of scale Reading locomotives.
Jim
Atlas makes the GP40-2 and the B23-7/B30-7 diesel locos in N and HO scale, so they would be the ones to make them in O scale.
Andrew
I'd love to see an N&W K1 4-8-2. Very useful in local freight work and handsome locomotive. I'd also like to see a Frisco 4-8-2. I don't think anyone has done a model of the 1522 in O Scale.
Mister Rogers neighborhood trolley, but a perfect replica of the one on the show!
Dear List,
I would like to see the following locos- Reading / P-RSL I-8 OR I-10 2-8-0
Baldwin RS-12 diesel / RT-624 diesel
Baldwin Baby Face diesel(s)
PRR K-5 4-6-2
PRR R-1 / DD-2 / L-6 / E-2 and E- 3 electric(s)
Ma & Pa 4-4-0 and later 2-8-0
Thank you, John
See here is the thing about the 10 Milwaukee SDL-39s, they could be painted as, of course, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Central, Wisconsin Southern, or re-gauged to 5' for the Chilean railroad where they are now.
Dick
falconservice posted:Atlas makes the GP40-2 and the B23-7/B30-7 diesel locos in N and HO scale, so they would be the ones to make them in O scale.
Andrew
Atlas needs to make a master line GP38-2 and GP40-2! I would buy heavily in those models as well as accurate SD40-2's despite what seems to be lack of orders for Scott's SD40-2's. SW1500's would be nice too!
I tell you in terms bells and whistles, the Scaletrains.com Tier 4 GE is a stunning locomotive in HO. Would love to see that level of detail in an O Scale locomotive!
I was unaware that Sunset was having a problems with a lack of orders on their SD40-2's...I have ordered two myself for ATSF. I would have ordered four additional for BN and SF Kodachrome, but with plastic diesels hitting seven and a half hundred dollars now, it just isn't in my budget. One thing though...when Scott announces a product, it isn't a 7-10 year production wait before it's on it's way to the dealers.
Mike DeBerg posted:falconservice posted:Atlas makes the GP40-2 and the B23-7/B30-7 diesel locos in N and HO scale, so they would be the ones to make them in O scale.
Andrew
Atlas needs to make a master line GP38-2 and GP40-2! I would buy heavily in those models as well as accurate SD40-2's despite what seems to be lack of orders for Scott's SD40-2's. SW1500's would be nice too!
I tell you in terms bells and whistles, the Scaletrains.com Tier 4 GE is a stunning locomotive in HO. Would love to see that level of detail in an O Scale locomotive!
To be honest, I'm still amazed they don't make these 'core' EMD locos, and have been hoping they'll do them for ages now. But - I hope they do them as proper 2-rail models, not 3-rail-derived "Trainman" hybrids - and in plain old 12v DC too, as well as the all-whistles-&-bells Gold DCC versions.
Not surprised if there's a lack of orders for brass locos at the moment; there's been a recession on - maybe it's finally hit those who can afford such exotica..??
SundayShunter posted:Mike DeBerg posted:falconservice posted:Atlas makes the GP40-2 and the B23-7/B30-7 diesel locos in N and HO scale, so they would be the ones to make them in O scale.
Andrew
Atlas needs to make a master line GP38-2 and GP40-2! I would buy heavily in those models as well as accurate SD40-2's despite what seems to be lack of orders for Scott's SD40-2's. SW1500's would be nice too!
I tell you in terms bells and whistles, the Scaletrains.com Tier 4 GE is a stunning locomotive in HO. Would love to see that level of detail in an O Scale locomotive!
To be honest, I'm still amazed they don't make these 'core' EMD locos, and have been hoping they'll do them for ages now. But - I hope they do them as proper 2-rail models, not 3-rail-derived "Trainman" hybrids - and in plain old 12v DC too, as well as the all-whistles-&-bells Gold DCC versions.
Not surprised if there's a lack of orders for brass locos at the moment; there's been a recession on - maybe it's finally hit those who can afford such exotica..??
I'm not a modern era modeler but it's sad to hear that there is a lack of orders for the SD40-2. This locomotive and the GP38-2 are certainly "core" locomotives that should be at the top of the popularity list for modelers as they were for the railroads.
And I would not doubt that the cycle of economics has affected the purchase of our beloved toys. Times are tough and trains are getting better but more expensive.
Let's hope there are enough sales to carry the offering through though. It would be sad to see a key locomotive like this die on the vine.
Well, if we're going to ask for the absurd and probably unobtainable, then I want one of these:
Alco S1, S2, S3, S4
How about these:
Disney World's Walter E. Disney with proper cars
Emma Nevada with Coach 5 (with the possibility of additional cars)
Chloe with the summer car
An EMC SW switcher
A prarie (Brooks Scanlon 1)
I'll play (again)
Reading K-1
Reading I-10
The various T-1 models are lonely...
Illinois Central 2500 Class 4-8-2 Mountain or IC 2-8-2 Mikado
EMD EA, E1, E3/E6 in Plastic (by Sunset 3rd rail)
C&O Greenbrier 4-8-4 #614, Late excursion era: Extended Coal Bunker in Tender, Ditch Lights on the pilot (say what you want I think they look super cool!).
I'm still looking for a Premier B&O "big six" steamer from MTH. Not holding my breath.
I would modify this title to "What locomotives would you like to see made "that a minimum of 50? people will actually buy"?" I would also separate steam and diesel. Since the basic design of diesels used on many railroads is standardized, there is a better chance of achieving the necessary volume for a diesel run than for a steam run. For steam, and based strictly on achieving a required minimum volume, you should probably consider, FIRST, the most popular roads that are modeled. I think that would be the PRR and NYC in the east, and UP and SP in the west. A lot of us also like the "niche" railroads, like N&W, NKP, B&O, NP, CNR, CPR, etc. A diesel offering could probably address these wants, while it would be more difficult for a steam model to do so, as many steam designs for these roads were customized to that RR. (Apologies to the Van Sweringen (sp?) guys, but the steam dome was mounted ahead of the sand dome on NKP!)
Bottom line is that someone who raises the flag for an Ann Arbor Pacific is a futile effort, in my opinion. (Heck, I am not even sure they had any Pacifics!)
I would like to see an ATLAS Republic Steel SW in straight DC so I don't have to throw out all the bells and whistles electronic boards and make my own simple one for changing the LED lights. Not much I'm asking but can't see it happening so I'm converting my own. Problem solved. DC forever!
Why did I ever post on this thread?....... Because I wanted a break from the modelling bench and I'm drinking a cup of strong black coffee as well.
Roo.
A steam engine with a exploding boiler...Ah, maybe not!
Any thing MA & PA steam or diesel
Hudson 5432: Your thesis of diesels being easier to produce en masse is very plausible. But.....we have been treated to an array of "niche" O Scale steam locomotives over the past 20 years, such as CNW R1 4-6-0, CN/CP/GTW 4-8-4's, Burlington 2-10-4's and the soon to arrive Sunset O1a 2-8-2's, etc, etc. So, really, many steam locomotives are potentially possible. But, agreed, not all. They do have to have some degree of popularity. And, Lord knows, I'm up to my gills in Big Boys, NYC Hudsons, SP 0-6-0's, etc.
It seems that the replies on this forum favor steam and or early diesel vs later all diesel. I agree with the posts don't misunderstand just making that observation.
Al Hummel
Quite simply some steam and diesel engines made only for 3R by MTH to date!
JPV69
rpmcobra posted:Any thing MA & PA steam or diesel
As I recall, the M&P steam locos were Baldwin stock models. They could be painted for any number of roads, in eras from the 1890's trough the end of steam, or offered undecorated.
Mark S. I agree completely. Perhaps there are more modelers of railroads other than what I identified, and those folks obviously vote with their wallets the same as we who model the larger and/or more popular roads. I am not sure that a production run of 50 is the minimum, but if we are going to influence the decision makers, we have to start somewhere! As for NYC and Hudsons, I continue to believe that "you can't have too many", especially with all of the variations!
I did neglect to mention the modern carriers such as BNSF, CSX, Conrail, etc etc and of course those would be "diesel guys", so should be at least a little easier to satisfy.
LionChief Plus Bluetooth articulated steam
HUDSON 5432,
I was told at 1 time a few years back "400" is what Atlas has to have for a run of cars,not 100% sure of the validity of this,just repeating what my feeble mind recalls.
Al Hummel
Union Pacific 2-10-2 with young's Valve gear, plow pilot, etc. engine #5041 would be great!
RS-3 in Jersey Central green please
I would like MTH to make a Western Maryland 4-8-4 Potomac in the Premier Line. Also a Western Maryland I-2 2-10-0 Decapod in the Premier Line.
I would suggest a D&RGW C-48 class 2-8-0, but no doubt some grizzled old-timer would smack me down and tell me that PFM made a run of them back in the 1970's.
mobyduck posted:Union Pacific 2-10-2 with young's Valve gear, plow pilot, etc. engine #5041 would be great!
+1
TTTs had so many modifications it might be hard to nail one down but they were all over the UP. I'd be in for a late version '48-'54.
An Alco RS3 Phase 3 version
SW1500
GP40-2
SD40-2
SD38-2
SD70 - Spartan Cab
SD70MAC - Proper length, correct hood details and truck spacing
ET44AC
WITZ 41 posted:mobyduck posted:Union Pacific 2-10-2 with young's Valve gear, plow pilot, etc. engine #5041 would be great!
+1
TTTs had so many modifications it might be hard to nail one down but they were all over the UP. I'd be in for a late version '48-'54.
I'll buy several of any version. Would love to have more UP 2-10-2s in my collection.
UP had a ton of these and the last model made was an old USH version...time for something new!
I would just like to see delivery of the Atlas O SW 8/9 switchers.
Basic minimum runs for 3rd Rail product is roughly the following for locomotives:
Brass: 100 units, but sometimes 75 units will be a go.
Plastic: 750 units with a minimum run of 20 units with road specific details for individual paint schemes. The E8/E9 currently in production has around 30 paint schemes.
Obviously the more orders the better.
My pipe dream locomotive?
PRR K2sa. It was the second largest fleet of Pacifics on the PRR and has not been been done in any scale recently if ever as near as I can tell. The K5 doesn't interest me as much as there were only 2. Just my opinion.
I'd say by the posts so far for "what type of loco do you want to see produced next,"that if "shelf couplers" ever make it onto the market,they won't sell worth nothing. Just My Observation.
Al Hummel
WITZ 41 posted:mobyduck posted:Union Pacific 2-10-2 with young's Valve gear, plow pilot, etc. engine #5041 would be great!
+1
TTTs had so many modifications it might be hard to nail one down but they were all over the UP. I'd be in for a late version '48-'54.
The 5041 has all of the late changes. She was last used as a helper on westbounds out of Omaha. She was to to saved for fan trips but upon a boiler inspection a crack was found and the engine was sent to scrap. The 5511 was at Green River ready to be towed to scrap when the U P decided to keep a 2-10-2.
All in O scale? Hmm. Rahway Valley 16 & 17 70 Tonners. GW 60 and 90. CNJ 113 and 592. CNJ Baldwin Baby Faced diesels. Union Transportation 9999. (PRR 9999 44 Tonner). Maybe some SRNJ, RCRY, or SMS Rail Lines engines. More Black River & Western items.. MTH already made LV 112.. That about covers it.
On threads like this I will quote a freind of mine....
"Your idea is great and you could make a lot of money on that project. We'll let you use our factory. All you have to do is pay all the costs and you can keep the profit."
Anyone in?
It would be kind of neat if Atlas, Lionel and MTH would throw out some international paint schemes every now and then (other than Canadian). We've been exporting our locomotives for generations. It would be kind of neat to see some of them in their new home's paint.
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