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I would like to see buildings with a smaller foot print, backdrop buildings. 

Freight cars I would like to see bulkhead flat cars, more single dome oil tank cars, 2 bay covered hoppers, modern box cars.

diecast vehicles from the 40's, 50's

what would you like to see?

Dave

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david1 posted:
JD2035RR posted:

A separate sale plastic or diecast 2426w style tender with handrails, steps, and 3 axle trucks.

 

2426w

You can buy these types of tenders at almost any show.

Dave

That has nothing to do with the question you posed in your original post.  The 2426 tender is what I would like to see Menard's produce.  Most of these tenders on eBay will sell from $150-200+ as a separate sale (granted the originals include a whistle).  Granted you could probably find some cheaper at shows as you suggest, but I don't have time to go to shows.  I'm suggesting that Menard's could have a market for these, especially if their price point was below $50.  These empty tenders could house ERR upgrade boards, speakers (or a traditional air whistle) for conventional engines.  

 

By the way, I don't see anything unique on your original list:  

I would like to see buildings with a smaller foot print, backdrop buildings. 

Freight cars I would like to see bulkhead flat cars, more single dome oil tank cars, 2 bay covered hoppers, modern box cars.

diecast vehicles from the 40's, 50's

 

You could find every one of your items at a show as well, nothing rare or un-produced there    

 

JD2035RR posted:
david1 posted:
JD2035RR posted:

A separate sale plastic or diecast 2426w style tender with handrails, steps, and 3 axle trucks.

 

2426w

You can buy these types of tenders at almost any show.

Dave

That has nothing to do with the question you posed in your original post.  The 2426 tender is what I would like to see Menard's produce.  Most of these tenders on eBay will sell from $150-200+ as a separate sale (granted the originals include a whistle).  Granted you could probably find some cheaper at shows as you suggest, but I don't have time to go to shows.  I'm suggesting that Menard's could have a market for these, especially if their price point was below $50.  These empty tenders could house ERR upgrade boards, speakers (or a traditional air whistle) for conventional engines.  

 

By the way, I don't see anything unique on your original list:  

I would like to see buildings with a smaller foot print, backdrop buildings. 

Freight cars I would like to see bulkhead flat cars, more single dome oil tank cars, 2 bay covered hoppers, modern box cars.

diecast vehicles from the 40's, 50's

 

You could find every one of your items at a show as well, nothing rare or un-produced there    

Yes you may be right about the tender but my response was that the poster may not of known that they are fairly easy to find at shows, that is all.

Also nothing I posted is unique, well what is? Menards has not made or offered the bulkhead flat car and most of the other things listed. This is about Menards not what others have done. If you don't like it, tough! Keep your thoughts to yourself. At least I'll be happier.

Dave

david1 posted:

 

JD2035RR posted:
david1 posted:
JD2035RR posted:

A separate sale plastic or diecast 2426w style tender with handrails, steps, and 3 axle trucks.

 

2426w

You can buy these types of tenders at almost any show.

Dave

That has nothing to do with the question you posed in your original post.  The 2426 tender is what I would like to see Menard's produce.  Most of these tenders on eBay will sell from $150-200+ as a separate sale (granted the originals include a whistle).  Granted you could probably find some cheaper at shows as you suggest, but I don't have time to go to shows.  I'm suggesting that Menard's could have a market for these, especially if their price point was below $50.  These empty tenders could house ERR upgrade boards, speakers (or a traditional air whistle) for conventional engines.  

 

By the way, I don't see anything unique on your original list:  

I would like to see buildings with a smaller foot print, backdrop buildings. 

Freight cars I would like to see bulkhead flat cars, more single dome oil tank cars, 2 bay covered hoppers, modern box cars.

diecast vehicles from the 40's, 50's

 

You could find every one of your items at a show as well, nothing rare or un-produced there    

Yes you may be right about the tender but my response was that the poster may not of known that they are fairly easy to find at shows, that is all.

Also nothing I posted is unique, well what is? Menards has not made or offered the bulkhead flat car and most of the other things listed. This is about Menards not what others have done. If you don't like it, tough! Keep your thoughts to yourself. At least I'll be happier.

Dave

I’m not trying to get into an argument here.  I’m sorry that I affected your happiness.  I must have misinterpreted your first comment about being able to find them readily at train shows. Thanks for pointing that out.

I actually like your suggestions, I’m on board with anything Menards would produce because they are nice offerings at very reasonable prices - I was just pointing out that it was hypocritical to say that about my tender suggestion while your suggestions were also readily found at train shows.  Again, I must have misinterpreted your comment.

Not having been to many train shows, how much would you expect to pay for a 2426w in decent condition at York or other train shows?

 

Would love to have them open stores in my area, closest one to me is way out in Ohio. I would love to see some decent passenger car sets that are small enough to not to need really large curves or look even better on 072, are close to but  not necessarily scale, with a decent interior on them at a good price. I realize there already are a lot out there, but it seems like the ones that are really nice looking and not as toy-like looking are generally full scale, full size and relatively expensive, or on the other end are usually very toy like. Not sure if it is possible, but I can wish and hope (while keeping my eyes open for existing product that fits my needs). 

I have three-Menards structures that straddle tracks and I really like the look ~ even though their meant for sidings I have them over mainlines as space is limited. To me, watching trains go through and under tunnels and structures is a neat aspect of watching trains. 

I'd like to see a coaling tower that straddles at least one track; and any steam-era railroad or industry related structures that straddle track(s) and do not have a large depth; and background buildings of 3" depth and reasonably high (10 to 16") would be awesome.

Honestly, I'd like to see them come out with a building that's hasn't been done, don't understand when companies pump out the same exact item over and over.  Like the ACL silver beer boxcars, I think Atlas, Lionel, and MTH have done the EXACT same car, down to the number.  All they'd have to do is Google any given RR and look at the pictures.

Bob D, I liked your idea of the tank car gas station. I don't think their buildings have been done before. Maybe at the beginning. They have done buildings outside the box which have proved to be interesting.

PRRMP54, sure scale size buildings would be nice. The grocery stores a small but who would have room for scale size grocery stores and buildings. I think they have done a great job with the footprints they have done.

Bob (dad), love the hints LOL. Maybe I better bring my checkbook this time LOL. See you in a few weeks...Paul 2

banjoflyer posted:

"Menards has not made or offered the bulkhead flat car and most of the other things listed."

Well they did at one time. See this post

The car looked like this:

11-1/2

It's no longer available online so I guess it was a one-of and they sold out of them.

However, I also like this car and wished I had bought one when it was available.

Seems like an easy effort to remove the load and sell the car as an empty bulkhead flatcar.

I'd buy a few and add my own loads...maybe even a Menards container.

Mark

Yes I did forget about that one and I have it. It is the only one they did make, very nice, would like more road names.

Dave

I'd like to see some structures that can work at curves.  Maybe a curved side or back or pass through.  What size curve I don't know but at least O31 or with "adapters" that work of other sizes (whatever size they make track in).

I like Spreicher's and have a great spot for it, but it is right next to a curve.  To make it work due to clearance I'd have to cut off the back wall off the pass through and add a support column farther behind the building.  Not a huge deal but would rather not permanently hack the structure.

Trackside operating accessories?  Unique from what Lionel, MTH and K-Line have offered.  

paul 2 posted:

Bob D, I liked your idea of the tank car gas station. I don't think their buildings have been done before. Maybe at the beginning. They have done buildings outside the box which have proved to be interesting.

PRRMP54, sure scale size buildings would be nice. The grocery stores a small but who would have room for scale size grocery stores and buildings. I think they have done a great job with the footprints they have done.

Bob (dad), love the hints LOL. Maybe I better bring my checkbook this time LOL. See you in a few weeks...Paul 2

Just wait !.. everyone will be happy... that's all I can say....

Here are a few suggestions to give my two cents...

I would love to see a good, modern gas station. We have Sheetz and WaWa in Virginia here, but there are any number that can be made. Even a good Exxon or BP. 

As for freight cars, I would love to see them move into some scale cars with correct proportions. I can appreciate the o-gauge they make, but I often think about what they could do with scale dimensions. 

Some of my ideas match other mentioned prior.

Modern Gas Station with Convenience Store

Modern Strip Retail with stucco finish (I would be happy with 3 store bays)

Strip Retail

CVS/Walgreens Drug Store

Modern Bank with Drive-Thru

Amtrak Station 1970’s model (refer to this thread) https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...76#86043178693488976

A more modern looking church like this one from Atlas that I've had in both HO and N scale (this is the HO Scale version) not the small country church that’s been overdone.

Atlas HO Modern Church

Modern Light Rail Vehicle or Streetcar.  There are enough 1940-50's design Streetcars around.

And just for kicks, an Amtrak Viewliner (seeing as the other manufacturers won’t build one).  I don't care about tooling costs.  Doesn't seem to bother Kato, who brings out new N Scale models every year, not just rebadging UP, Penn, ATSF on everything.

 

 

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I'd like to see re-designed, stamped steel truck mounting plates for the current crop of covered and open hoppers.  The plastic mounting plates are kinda' wishy-washy.  And of course, more mid-westerny road names (i.e., "Rock Island" for one , etc. etc.).  Prototypical hopper-type paint colors only preferred please (black, gray, red oxide, etc.), don't need no hoppers painted up in fantastical, passenger engine foo-foo heritage paint schemes , thank you very much. 

JD2035RR posted:

A separate sale plastic or diecast 2426w style tender with handrails, steps, and 3 axle trucks.

 

2426w

I like this idea too @Menards ! It would be great to have cheap and high quality spare tender(s)to swap behind my Postwar or MPC steamers for different road names.  Pennsylvania with gold stripes, New York Central, Chesapeake & Ohio, Union Pacific, and Santa Fe style 2055 printed tenders would make a big splash of a product launch I think. 

 

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DWBaseball posted:
JD2035RR posted:

A separate sale plastic or diecast 2426w style tender with handrails, steps, and 3 axle trucks.

 

2426w

I like this idea too @Menards ! It would be great to have cheap and high quality spare tender(s)to swap behind my Postwar or MPC steamers for different road names.  Pennsylvania with gold stripes, New York Central, Chesapeake & Ohio, Union Pacific, and Santa Fe style 2055 printed tenders would make a big splash of a product launch I think. 

 

That would seem to be more Lionel’s purvey, since they have the tooling. I doubt Menards would be interested in creating new tooling for such a specialized interest. 

Jim R. posted:
DWBaseball posted:
JD2035RR posted:

A separate sale plastic or diecast 2426w style tender with handrails, steps, and 3 axle trucks.

 

2426w

I like this idea too @Menards ! It would be great to have cheap and high quality spare tender(s)to swap behind my Postwar or MPC steamers for different road names.  Pennsylvania with gold stripes, New York Central, Chesapeake & Ohio, Union Pacific, and Santa Fe style 2055 printed tenders would make a big splash of a product launch I think. 

 

That would seem to be more Lionel’s purvey, since they have the tooling. I doubt Menards would be interested in creating new tooling for such a specialized interest. 

You bring up a good point of why doesn’t Lionel do this? They know the market better than us, but sometimes there are blind spots.  

Obviously, I am not privy to the details of Menards tooling agreement, but I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch to think it’s a possibility. They got the boxcar, flatcar, caboose, hopper, tank car, etc molds from somewhere. Its not like they are creating new tooling for any of those.

I think almost every postwar loco would look better with one of these tenders behind it. I’ve got a 726RR from ‘52 that has the streamlined Pennsy tender. It’s great, but it would look better with the longer more detailed 2426w behind it. Think of all of the 736s, Hudsons, turbines, out there that could all use a nice looking tender as an option, with the ability to easily switch back to its stock appearance. 

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JD2035RR posted:
Jim R. posted:
DWBaseball posted:
JD2035RR posted:

A separate sale plastic or diecast 2426w style tender with handrails, steps, and 3 axle trucks.

 

2426w

I like this idea too @Menards ! It would be great to have cheap and high quality spare tender(s)to swap behind my Postwar or MPC steamers for different road names.  Pennsylvania with gold stripes, New York Central, Chesapeake & Ohio, Union Pacific, and Santa Fe style 2055 printed tenders would make a big splash of a product launch I think. 

 

That would seem to be more Lionel’s purvey, since they have the tooling. I doubt Menards would be interested in creating new tooling for such a specialized interest. 

You bring up a good point of why doesn’t Lionel do this? They know the market better than us, but sometimes there are blind spots.  

Obviously, I am not privy to the details of Menards tooling agreement, but I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch to think it’s a possibility. They got the boxcar, flatcar, caboose, hopper, tank car, etc molds from somewhere. Its not like they are creating new tooling for any of those.

I think almost every postwar loco would look better with one of these tenders behind it. I’ve got a 726RR from ‘52 that has the streamlined Pennsy tender. It’s great, but it would look better with the longer more detailed 2426w behind it. Think of all of the 736s, Hudsons, turbines, out there that could all use a nice looking tender as an option, with the ability to easily switch back to its stock appearance. 

 Menards won’t confirm it, and Bachmann supposedly has denied it, but it’s fairly obvious Menards has access to the old Williams tooling now owned by Kader, which got it via Bachmann’s acquisition of Williams. Kader is Bachmann’s parent company.

Also, Menards’ caboose seems an exact match for a classic K-Line model. Kader ended up with a lot of K-Line tooling with its acquisition of the Sanda Kan factory a decade ago.

Menards has zero access to Lionel tooling.

Culver's  (butter burgers & frozen custard chain)

Arcade. (hi-energy excitement; lit like a Christmas tree)

Phone store? (New or old)

Urgent care clinic? (call um after installing the above )

 No chance of a tender? 😢    🥜🥜🥜Nuts.... 'cept Gramps was a Bas**** of Bastonge 🤔...And if I recall right, Menard's would never /could never, release an affordable line of O gauge either😂.... ah man, "i" can't stand it some days 🤣   😒 🙈🙉🙊 

🙈🙉🙊 😲 You know, Bachmann doesn't just have access to old car tooling by K-line. There is unused postwar too I believe😈

So about that low buck upgradable conventional loco to go with the tender.     😨😰😱   😬⏱️

Now back to your regularly scheduled programing 🤖    

Dominic Mazoch posted:

Two you will not see:

Brewery

Dog Pound!

There's a dog kennel too. Are you trollin' dem Dom ? 🤔

 I like Jim Sutters rubber roadbed idea. Might even manage to fit under another brand too.

If they do a turnout that had early Marx type swivel points for fat wheel ability, I'd be in for a few at least. (Smooth and no Lionel stalls; no rail gaps to speak of; no guide rails.... I think there was a post of a photo of a real prototype years ago (along with a cog railway rack centered between two regular rails. That looked very familiar for some reason 😁... might have been a British RR, or yard switch )

And something for curves too! A flexible platform? With an overlapping, solid deck, and straight edged side for butting up against things. 

A triangle building for corners (done in real life)  If not a nice one, a cheese wedge replica Americana-Deco cheese stand 🧀

And pizza joint, but not a big chain.

Something more cheesy sounding 🤣

G. Reasy's Pizza ? (grease means a better cheese actually)

Health food trend grub? Call it Veggie-Tables? 🙃

wild mary posted:

I wish they would sell their people.

Now THAT will never happen. That's illegal 😝

Internet company building... Duck Duck Go? Dogpile? (an underdog company might go for it. )

Lawson's corner store, Big O orange juice, chrome tank car on rails and semi-trailer copy of prototype too.  I want the tankers kinda bad and the store might fit if small.

Burger Chef (a reefer to start? A billboard? Throw a bone)

  An old TB isn't likely after the new version. TB isn't going to want vintage thoughts with big purple joy joy boxes going up everywhere.  Companies like to make old branding a "Demolition, Man".  (the purple is a subliminal suggestion of luxury; poshness; etc.. suggesting a fine dining experience basically. Rat burger anyone? It's real meat!  😁)

Outdoor trailer food court:Peco's BBQ Frog Legs, Tom's Fried Chicken, Gerry's Kabobs 

"🎵 Froggy  went a courtin' and he did ride...

cRAM-bone" 🤠🎸

I second the idea of larger church.

I also would like to see them take over the K-Line Shadow Rail Track. Let Lionel have their fast track. Its noisy!    Make the K-Line track that is more realistic and expand the line. But also make it affordable. I think RMT shot themselves in the foot by making the shadow rail as expensive as Atlas Track. 

Re issue their thru truss bridges.

Just my two cents

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 Chippewa Valley Expo Center
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Days Inn by Wyndham

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Sleep Inn & Suites
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Lismore Hotel
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I hope this helps!
-Mark the Menards Train Guy

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My only O scale modeling is On30. With new Bachmann releases few and far between, I would like to see Menards produce some On30 rolling stock including steel cars, rather than just 75-year-old wooden prototypes. On30 diesels would also be welcome. In the 1975-80 era narrow gauge had been updated on the WP&Y, CN Newfoundland lines, and NdeM in Yucatan.

Gil in Oregon

A line of 1970s, 1980s run of the mill automobiles.  Chevrolet Vega, Nova, Cavalier, Celebrity, Chrysler Cordoba, Dodge Volare, Omni, Horizon, K cars, Ford Escort, Fairmont, LTD,, Maverick. AMC Spirit, Matador sedan.  

Why are we forced to have layouts full of BMWs, Audi's, and no common folks cars that filled most of the country's parking lots for decades? 

 

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VistaDomeScott posted:

A line of 1970s, 1980s run of the mill automobiles.  Chevrolet Vega, Nova, Cavalier, Celebrity, Chrysler Cordoba, Dodge Volare, Omni, Horizon, K cars, Ford Escort, Fairmont, LTD,, Maverick. AMC Spirit, Matador sedan.  

Why are we forced to have layouts full of BMWs, Audi's, and no common folks cars that filled most of the country's parking lots for decades? 

 

We do need more common autos.  You can have only so many luxury and sports cars on a layout.  Everyday vehicles are a must.  If I may add 1990s and early 2000 vehicles to the list.  A wider array of cars in general are needed.

Carl Peduzzi posted:
VistaDomeScott posted:

A line of 1970s, 1980s run of the mill automobiles.  Chevrolet Vega, Nova, Cavalier, Celebrity, Chrysler Cordoba, Dodge Volare, Omni, Horizon, K cars, Ford Escort, Fairmont, LTD,, Maverick. AMC Spirit, Matador sedan.  

Why are we forced to have layouts full of BMWs, Audi's, and no common folks cars that filled most of the country's parking lots for decades? 

 

We do need more common autos.  You can have only so many luxury and sports cars on a layout.  Everyday vehicles are a must.  If I may add 1990s and early 2000 vehicles to the list.  A wider array of cars in general are needed.

I want to piggyback on Scott’s and Carl’s comments, particularly Scott’s list. The K cars (notably the Plymouth Reliant and Dodge Aries) were ubiquitous in the 1980s, and so far all that we have is Greenlight’s Aries in the police car line. The Plymouth Horizon and the Dodge Omni were also very popular among compact cars.

I have to smile at the idea of the Matador (“What’s a Matador?”, as the memorable 1970s commercials repeatedly stated), but I like it.

I would like to add the 1974-78 Ford Mustang II to the list — not the sporty Cobra Fastback version that Charlie’s Angels Jill Monroe made even hotter (and which Greenlight has released in different colors), but the 2-plus-2 sedan that was driven by the common folk (including me).

Jim R. posted:
Carl Peduzzi posted:
VistaDomeScott posted:

A line of 1970s, 1980s run of the mill automobiles.  Chevrolet Vega, Nova, Cavalier, Celebrity, Chrysler Cordoba, Dodge Volare, Omni, Horizon, K cars, Ford Escort, Fairmont, LTD,, Maverick. AMC Spirit, Matador sedan.  

Why are we forced to have layouts full of BMWs, Audi's, and no common folks cars that filled most of the country's parking lots for decades? 

 

We do need more common autos.  You can have only so many luxury and sports cars on a layout.  Everyday vehicles are a must.  If I may add 1990s and early 2000 vehicles to the list.  A wider array of cars in general are needed.

I want to piggyback on Scott’s and Carl’s comments, particularly Scott’s list. The K cars (notably the Plymouth Reliant and Dodge Aries) were ubiquitous in the 1980s, and so far all that we have is Greenlight’s Aries in the police car line. The Plymouth Horizon and the Dodge Omni were also very popular among compact cars.

I have to smile at the idea of the Matador (“What’s a Matador?”, as the memorable 1970s commercials repeatedly stated), but I like it.

I would like to add the 1974-78 Ford Mustang II to the list — not the sporty Cobra Fastback version that Charlie’s Angels Jill Monroe made even hotter (and which Greenlight has released in different colors), but the 2-plus-2 sedan that was driven by the common folk (including me).

Piggybacking (cont'd)

For the 1990's and up, your basic 4-door sedan (Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, non-law enforcement Ford Taurus, Chevrolet Malibu) or minivan would fit the bill.  I would buy them in a heartbeat.  I guess the dominance of sports coupes & convertibles comes from what sells in the Hot Wheels + Matchbox markets.  Your typical kid wants something flashy and racy, not the minivan that they get driven to school or soccer practice in  . 

Same thing applies to car magazines.  Your typical 25-60+ male wants to see splashed on the cover some exotic vehicle that 99.99% will never buy, much less step foot in, even at auto shows because they are roped off.  I recall around 2000-02 there was a car magazine that came out with the intent of features on everyday cars, not supercars.  I think the editor was a woman in fact.  Don't remember the name of the magazine, but I read a few issues at the time when my wife and I were in the market for minivans to tote our toddlers around in.  I believe the magazine folded after only 3 years.  

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