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Hey everyone! Just for fun, what is an engine that you’d like to see a manufacturer like Lionel or MTH make? It could be something new or an item that hasn’t been made in quite a while.

 For me, I’d love for Lionel to make some Scale Legacy versions of the Norfolk & Western’s early A Class locomotives. They were different than what the 1218 looks like now in that they had boiler tube pilots, smaller 22A tenders, and some even had Laird crossheads as shown with the 1200 and 1208 below. Is this something anyone else would be interested in?

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Late fifties experimental light weight train power;  FM Speed Merchants, both New Haven and Boston & Maine versions and the talgo sets to go with them. Likewise those Train-X Baldwin-Maybach diesel-hydraulics in the NYC blue & yellow or NH McGinnis scheme is way past due too.

(Kudo's to MTH for their GM Aerotrain!) 

 

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FM H20-44                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  GE U25C                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      EMD SDP40F

Tom

A Brass/Hybrid Scale Hudson, 700e, similar to The VisionLine Hudson with the Swinging bell, back draft smoking feature, Whistle Steam authentic Whistle, and fire box glow with cover, Black and a beautiful scale tender.  This is my favorite style Hudson.  I think there would be plenty of demand if they applied lots of add on details.  Happy Railroading 

 

I'd like to see the manufacturers catalog more steam engines that have LESS THAN 12 wheels!  The catalogs are full of 4-8-4s and articulateds with maybe a Hudson,  Pacific, or switch engine thrown in.  Where are the Atlantics, Moguls, Prairies, Ten Wheelers, and Consolidations?

I believe the manufacturers, especially MTH,  are hurting the future of our hobby by seemingly  incorporating a business model that relies on selling mainly the larger and more expensive models.

 

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R. Hales posted:

Where are the Atlantics, Moguls, Prairies, Ten Wheelers, and Consolidations?

Absolutely agree! Would like to see more scale-sized/detailed small steam locomotive types - Atlantic, Mogul, Prairie, Ten-Wheeler, Columbia, American... They would cost less, run on smaller track diameters, and promote modeling of early twentieth century railroading.

MELGAR

I’d like a manufacturer to cover every railroad that purchased an EMD F3, F7, or an ALCO FA. I’m not asking that they do them all at once, but adding a couple small railroad offerings along with the popular ones every year. Then eventually, they will get to the ones that I want.

Also, make it possible to buy a stand alone A unit if the buyer wishes to have only one pulling a short branch run.

It's been mentioned here before that tooling for mid-size diecast steam locomotives, is not significantly cheaper than tooling for large ones. That is probably why there aren't a whole lot of them.

In the meantime, I'll also cast my vote for a Siemens ACS-64 and the SC-44 Charger that will be replacing the Genesis diesel on Amtrak (and probably a number of other commuter railroads as well)

---PCJ

Sometime back, I replied to a similar thread saying that I would like to have Lionel make this:

1501

Volume 2 of the 2018 catalog offers a $1300 BTO:

1501 Lionel

Alas, as close study of the two photos shows, they model doesn't reflect the prototype very accurately, decoration notwithstanding.  The 1501 was not a USRA design.  No doubt Lionel thinks I am ungrateful, should they deign to notice, that I am not preordering.  I don't mean to be ungrateful, but I asked for a one thing but was offered another.  If they get enough orders to make it, and, at some distant future point, its price drops to a few hundred dollars, I might still get it.  But If I am going to pay over $1000 for a Lionel train, I want it to more accurately reflect its prototype.

Takeaways:

1)  Ask, and you just might receive . . . something.

2)  Be careful what you wish for:  you might just get . . . something like it.

3)  Don't ask the question unless you can stand all the possible answers.

 

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Once again, the NC&StL Dixie (4-8-4); modern, light and gorgeous:

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My, oh, my - yes. I built one of these by modifying a Lionel Y3, plus a tender swap. Looks pretty convincing - but I would but the "real thing" if it came out.

carsntrains posted:

This or one of her sister engines in Southern!    LC+2.0 of course. : )

Jim

 

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D500 posted:

Once again, the NC&StL Dixie (4-8-4); modern, light and gorgeous:

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My, oh, my - yes. I built one of these by modifying a Lionel Y3, plus a tender swap. Looks pretty convincing - but I would but the "real thing" if it came out.

carsntrains posted:

This or one of her sister engines in Southern!    LC+2.0 of course. : )

Jim

 

I have some NC&StL boxcars!   "TWO AND FROM DIXIELAND" 

Jim

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Tom Densel posted:

FM H20-44                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  GE U25C                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      EMD SDP40F

Tom

Agreed! PLUS:

 GE- B23-7, C36-7

GE U28B-U36B scale

ALCo C636, C415,C430 scale

EMD GP40-2 PhII&PhIII !

GenesisFan99 posted:

I second the vote for Chargers. Ugly as they might be, they’re here to stay, and they’re pretty much the new F40PH. There’s also potential in selling the Brightline Chargers since MTH has offered sets before, so I don’t see why they couldn’t offer complete Brightline trainsets.

The next question is now that Virgin bought out Briteline, Will there be a new paint scheme?

bigtruckpete posted:

Siemens ACS

Siemens Charger- These are already running up and down Illinois. They are soooo quiet at speed it’s amazing  

Frisco 1630 a 2-10-0 that lives and breathes beautiful sights, sounds and smells at the Illinois Railway Museum.

TGV

 

The best part about the Charger is there’s enough paint schemes for a manufacturer to be able to consider producing one. There’s like 4 different Amtrak versions, MARC, and NCTD has Chargers on order just to name a few.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:
GenesisFan99 posted:

I second the vote for Chargers. Ugly as they might be, they’re here to stay, and they’re pretty much the new F40PH. There’s also potential in selling the Brightline Chargers since MTH has offered sets before, so I don’t see why they couldn’t offer complete Brightline trainsets.

The next question is now that Virgin bought out Briteline, Will there be a new paint scheme?

I think there might be, which would help justify the cost of tooling the bullet nose and passenger cars.

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rex desilets posted:

Whilst hoping for the moon, I'd like a Reading K-1

 Or a PRR N-1.

I don't need whistle steam or swinging bells or any other quick-to-fail foofraw...  which likely means 3rd Rail.

 

You can find with patience the 3rd rail PRR N1 on the bay.

My bad :-(  I shoulda said N-2sa. I have a an N-1. Needs to be TMCC'd.

leapinlarry posted:

Rusty Traque, yes to your choice, that Steamer would be a great size Locomotive and I am thinking Brass/Hybrid...I would like to see it with Legacy, Whistle Steam, ash pan glow with cover, walkway to the tender from the Cab, Real coal load on the tender, back up lamp at the rear of the tender, and all prototypical detailing possible....Thank You 

...and it would command a price similar to a Big Boy with all that "stuff." Would you really pay north of $1500 for a 4-4-0?

I’d like Lionel, most of all, to make a Legacy Scale Norfolk and Western Class A with whistle steam. Make sure no. 1218 has a jacketed smokebox like she does today, and all the rest have unjacketed smokeboxes like they did on the N&W. The Lionmaster versions were cool, but they weren’t scale and the speed control was wonky. The A’s deserve better.

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Rex D, thank you for chiming in, as  I thought this to be a different wheel arrangement, thinking possibly a 10 wheeler, and thinking if it’s a Brass/Hybrid, Pricing would be closer to $1295, which would be conceivable.  The picture of the 1630 Frisco is hard to tell what the wheel arrangement is. I am not a collector, just fond of realistic looking steamers. 

Great Post and I certainly hope the manufacturers take a look at it. I would like to see production of a 2 Rail GP20 diesel in the Pennsylvania, New York Central, Penn Central, Conrail, C&O, B&O, Santa Fe (that's for you John) paint scheme. Those are preferences but I will take any road name, just make one! MTH, ATLAS, SUNSET, OVERLAND...Hello! 

Dave

I would like to see a CF7. While it was originally strictly a Santa Fe engine that was built (rebuilt) by ATSF out of old F-units, over the years Santa Fe has sold off many to various shortlines across the country, so there are many varieties of prototypical paint schemes to choose from. I am not currently buying any more O gauge trains, since I don’t have an O layout, and already have more than I can justify to run on my club’s modular layout. I do however, have an S Hi-Rail layout that could justify purchasing one in that scale, and if one were to be made in O, I would be sorely tempted, especially if it were to be done in Florida Central, Florida Northern, or Florida Midland in spite of my space issues. I feel the same about a SCL GE U18b in those scales, but the reality is that both have about a zero chance of being made (at least I have them both in HO, even though I gave away my HO modules a couple of years ago). Both have the advantage of being short locomotives that shouldn’t have any radius problems on the average home layout.

Bill in FtL

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Every six months or so the dreamers ask this very question. So i'll join in and ask for a SAR Beyer Garratt.

But on the more realistic side how about a Lionmaster PRR I1 Decapod (2-10-0) without the coast to coast (210F82) tender, but with the smaller 90F82 tender with doghouse, of course. That coast to coast tender looks out of place on the smaller layouts most of us have. Anything PRR seems to be a good seller, and Lionmaster gives enough detail to satisfy most of us and could be offered at a slightly lower price point than a full scale Legacy loco.

 

 

NS6770Fan posted:

What about C&O 1309, the 576, the 553, the 2926, or any Strasburg locomotive. (I’d even take a second run of 89)

3rd Rail put out feelers for a 1309, but had few takers. Reasoning was that the 1:1 one was still disassembled in the restoration shop. 

Once the real 1309 is operational and pulling trains for WMSR, don't be surprised to see the offer resurface. In the meantime, start putting aside your pennies. You're gonna need a lot of 'em*. I'm anticipating about a couple of thousand bucks' worth. (using 3rd Rail's existing articulateds as a guide)

---PCJ

(*that's my plan, anyway)

Jersey Central Baldwin Baby Face.....I'd even enjoy fantasy schemes in Northeast Roads

A engine like this works on a small layout.....you don't have to turn it around.....Besides the different Jersey Central liveries, I'd love to see one in New Haven Hunter Green or McGinnis colors......or,  New York Central cigar band or lighting stripe would be fine, too....even a Pennsy 5 stripe Brunswick Green.....

Peter

Good Morning,

I know this thread is a "wish list" and just for fun but except for a few likes very few on the thread so far, wish for the same thing. That's not to say if one of our wishes came true others wouldn't pick one up but from a popularity standpoint we all want different locomotives.

I'm new to the whole market of building some of these mammoths, tooling, parts, etc. Might someone chime in and share why some of these wish list units have not been manufactured at this point? Probably a very generic question but as Paul Kallus said, MTH has made 5 Triplexes and we all know every manufacturer has made a Big Boy.  TM Terry is on to something with making a series of units over time. With modern technology why do we repeatedly see the same units popping up after so many years? I understand that new technology can and has given more detail and sounds, etc. but between all the manufacturers we should have seen just about every unit, that spent any time in service, manufactured. What part am I missing?

Dave

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Paul Kallus posted:

I think I've been saying this for going on ten or so years... a scale Legacy Erie Triplex. MTH is on their 4-5th run and still can't make one with a sound system that comes close to Legacy Railsounds.

I agree.  Also the reissue of the daylight GS-4 at least 4 time and never added the brake hose on the pilot (their HO and G gauge engines have it).

 

I think they should leave of o gauge market except for European steam and diesel trains and concentrate on their HO and G Scale engines of which they do an excellent job of manufacturing; just my opinion.

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Ted S posted:

L&N Berkshire "Big Emma."  Or the neat compact Berkshire used by the DT&I.  Or maybe even a WM "Potomac" 4-8-4!

The L&N Big Emma! Yes! Was produced in 2-R brass years ago, didn't sell well..if it ain't PRR/NYC/ATSF/UP/SP it don't sell, I suppose. I've seen them on the famous bidding site although not recently.

OTOH, if 3rd Rail can do a CGW or a T&P loco--how can a RR be any more obscure-they ought to be able to get interest in the prettiest of all Berks (opinion, natch). But then, 3rd Rail has been flogging the NYC H10 for years without enough reservations, so what do I know?

I'd like to see a nice little generic-looking 4-6-0 (either oil-fired or with oil-fired option) in two-rail as well as three rail (Yeah, yeah, I know about the Pennsy G-5s, but I don't model the Pennsy or the Long Island Railroad). I am more than willing to accept a brass-diecast hybrid as long as it can take mounted Kadees on the front as well as DCC or wireless.

 

 

Bill Nielsen posted:

I would like to see a CF7. While it was originally strictly a Santa Fe engine that was built (rebuilt) by ATSF out of old F-units, over the years Santa Fe has sold off many to various shortlines across the country, so there are many varieties of prototypical paint schemes to choose from. 

Bill in FtL

There’s a huge variety of paint schemes the CF7 appeared in, from Amtrak to LAJ to The Santa Cruz, Big Trees, and Pacific. That would definitely be another great locomotive to have.

Well, right off the bat I'll shut my mouth on Hudson's. I would still like to see scale 4-4-0's and some early 19th Century steam. Heck, it doesn't have to have whistle steam but I would prefer if the smoke stacks actually smoked with a nice spark arrester like they only did for one model thus far(Lionel I mean). There is such a big playing field when it comes to these older locomotive's, heck, Sierra number 3 would be great(unless she's stuck in a movie deal).

I would also like to see the Class A come back around. Other than that, not sure what other steam engines I could say that haven't been already mentioned.

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