I like a little variety and I usually get no more than one or two examples of any model locomotive.  I do have an FM Train Master, but it’s a Lionel 8056 from 1980.  The 8056 is one of my favorite conventional locos, but I don’t run it too much since it’s a conventional loco.  I’ve decided it’s time to get a modern DCS Train Master, but I’m trying to decide if I should get a Railking or a Premier model.

From what I have seen, both are scale models (17” long), both have cab figures, both have smoke.  As is generally the case, the premier has more details.  The on line images of the rear grill on the premier looks a heck of a lot nicer on the Premier than on the Railkng, but I’m not sure if I’m willing to pay another $150 for a nicer grill.

Also, not sure if I will like the sound.  I like diesel rumble and don’t like blower whine.  The real Train Master has a blower, but so does the real H10-44 and my H10-44 model sounds great.

So, I’m looking for some input from anyone that has a recent (last 10 years) MTH Train Master.  Do you have a Railking or a Premier? How does it sound?  Are you happy with the details?  Anything else that might help me decide?

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I only have 2 but they are great.

MTH. SP. from the late 90's, a great engine, no problems ever, a real smoker.  Railing version, cost $250.00

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The Virginian is a K LINE MODEL I bought a couple years ago, a great engine,  strong puller, no smoke which is OK.  Cost $100.00

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I would recommend either , but ,K Line are used and only on Ebay*

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They're all postwar clones. The MTH version from 2011 https://www.mthtrains.com/20-20125-2 was improved, steps were different.

Either go with that one or the K-line version which was the most accurate.

MTH Premier from 2011 onward was totally new tooling, not a postwar clone. Noticeably different in numerous ways, with road specific details. Railking remains a postwar clone.

Get a newer Premier, much better looking model than any other Train Master on market.

SPSF posted:

Either go with that one or the K-line version which was the most accurate.

Yeah, my point is it isn't the most accurate, and that the MTH isn't a postwar clone as your original post stated.

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...-pennsy-trainmasters

This thread details the problems with the K-Line Train Master for just one road and compares the MTH Premier to it. You could do the same thread for nearly every road they produced. They were a huge step up from the Lionel version descended from the 1950s, which was itself really good for the time, but the MTH version runs circles around the K-Line version for road-specific detail and for general scale-fidelity. 

And I'm only a marginal fan of MTH products, generally.

But, quoting yourself doesn't make the K-Line a better product, it objectively is not, save for price and availability depending upon road.

Thanks guys.

Ross.  The Lackawanna unit looks and sounds great.  The Lackawanna/Erie-Lackawanna is one of the color schemes I am considering.

I’m kind of leaning toward Premier.  I found a video on line and they also sound good.

I would definitely get the Premier   The FM is one of my favorite engines   I have every MTh version of Lackawanna / Erie Lackawanna and the detailing and looks of the Premier are awesome.

I’m looking for something with a bit of color. Reading or Lackawanna/E-L are top contenders. I usually stick with North East rail roads, but the Wabash colors are so nice that I may stray from my norm. Also considering an FM Demo or Virginian.

Lehigh74 posted:

I like a little variety and I usually get no more than one or two examples of any model locomotive.  I do have an FM Train Master, but it’s a Lionel 8056 from 1980.  The 8056 is one of my favorite conventional locos, but I don’t run it too much since it’s a conventional loco.  I’ve decided it’s time to get a modern DCS Train Master, but I’m trying to decide if I should get a Railking or a Premier model.

From what I have seen, both are scale models (17” long), both have cab figures, both have smoke.  As is generally the case, the premier has more details.  The on line images of the rear grill on the premier looks a heck of a lot nicer on the Premier than on the Railkng, but I’m not sure if I’m willing to pay another $150 for a nicer grill.

Also, not sure if I will like the sound.  I like diesel rumble and don’t like blower whine.  The real Train Master has a blower, but so does the real H10-44 and my H10-44 model sounds great.

So, I’m looking for some input from anyone that has a recent (last 10 years) MTH Train Master.  Do you have a Railking or a Premier? How does it sound?  Are you happy with the details?  Anything else that might help me decide?

Well it's up to you and what you want. MTH railking models are postwar clones with real RR paint schemes for the most part. The Premier models PS@ and current (with exception of last century premier models a.k.a ps1 models) are scale detailed to each roadname and rival that of brass models!

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